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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:48 AM
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The Safety Net vs the Tea Party's Amazing Reality Rejecting Scissors
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 08:10 AM by ck4829
This should give everyone an idea of just what the marginalized and the long term unemployed are up against...

"1/3 People on unemployment find work withing 3 weeks of their benefits running out. Seems like extending the benefits for 2 1/2 years is a little over kill maybe?"
- No source given
http://www.lakestclair.net/index.php?/topic/86034-13-people-on-unemployment-find-work/

"I had heard a figure before that 30% of the people on unemployment find jobs the very next month AFTER UI runs out."
- No source given for this 'figure'
https://theview.abc.go.com/forum/real-reason-unemployment?page=1

“it's no coincidenc­e that 76% of people on unemployme­nt find a job the week before their benefits expire. just sayin”
- No source given for this 'coincidence'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/beaujim/99ers-arrested-during-new_n_783474_67510725.html

"According to an AP story, 2/3 of people on unemployment find work within 30 days of the "benefits" running out."
- No link given for this 'AP story'
http://kayleighmcenany.com/2011/06/28/the-problem-with-unemployment-benefits-a-response-to-why-wont-gop-help-jobless-workers-2/

"Studies have shown time and time again that the majority of people on unemployment find a job during the last 3 weeks of benefits and the first 2 weeks of no benefits"
- No links given for these 'studies'
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/09/obama_hammers_home_a_help_want.html

"In all economic climates, the vast majority of people on unemployment find a job within 2 weeks of their unemployment benefit end."
- No link given for this 'pearl of wisdom'
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/02/17/pay-go-no-go/

"A recent study showed that people on unemployment find a job when the unemployment runs out..hmmm"
- No link given for this 'recent study'
http://www.facebook.com/bn9fans/posts/206101452740271

"Can't help to laugh at the 6 week reduction because it's been proven that 85% of the people on unemployment find a job (albeit miraclously) in the last 2 weeks of their unemployment running out."
- No link given for this 'proven' miracle
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2011/03/31/opinion/doc4d93eef5e900d162512406.txt

"Did you know that 20% of all people on unemployment find work within 1 week of losing their unemployment compensation? Gee, isn't THAT a coincidence?!?!"
- Gee, how come there is no link for this 'coincidence'?
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?p=661152

"Studies have found that a very high percentage of people on unemployment find work within 2-3 months after their unemployment checks have stopped. This would suggest that many in America today who are unemployed are not searching for a job as if their lives depended upon it."
- No links given for these studies
http://achosenbullet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/America-2011.pdf

"I saw a statistic that about 1/3rd of people on unemployment find a job within 30 days of losing the handout. It would seem to me that the best way to create jobs would be to stop incentivizing people to not work."
- No link given for this statistic
http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=135609&start=325

"The governments own statistics show that the vast majority of people on unemployment find jobs within a couple months of their benefits expiring...now why is that?"
- No link given for the 'governments own statistics'
http://forums.ozarkregionalonline.com/showthread.php?p=5408

"One third of all people on unemployment find work within 30 days of their benefits ending. 82% find work within 60 days of their unemployment ending. People don't start looking till the end of their benefits in a lot of cases."
- No links given for these 'facts'
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/hot-zone/271083-how-do-i-get-deal.html

"80% of people on unemployment find jobs within 30 days after their benefits run out. What does that mean? The biggest competitor for workers is the government handout programs."
- No link given for this 'statistic'
http://www.unifythepeople.org/newsletters/newsletter/6921205/63628.htm

"I think I read somewhere that most people on unemployment find jobs during the last two weeks of their term. It doesn't matter how long they're been drawing. Once they have two weeks left they magically find jobs."
- Nope, no link given for this magical thing that this guy 'read'
http://www.survivaltopics.com/forums/survival-news-discussion/11109-ant-grasshopper-aesop-fable-old-new-version.html

"I recently read that one third of all people on unemployment find work within 3 days of losing their benefits."
- Was it a book that this person read from? A magazine? A newspaper? We'll never know, because no link was ever given
http://www.mrlockandload.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3662&start=10

"I've seen stats showing most people on unemployment find jobs within a few weeks of it ending. That sure suggests it's a crutch more than a helping hand."
- No link for these stats given
http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=5500&nav=messages&webtag=ml-Tigers&tid=52726

"I heard a stat on TV yesterday that 1/3 of all people on unemployment find a job in thier last week collecting benefits. It appears that at least 33 percent of them truly need an incentive."
- Which TV show was it? Guess what? It's not listed on there!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=127225183&page=1

"In a recent study it has been shown that two thirds of the people on unemployment find a job in the last few weeks of collecting."
- Don't bother looking for a link, there isn't one
http://politicaluncorrectness.com/gpage1.html

"How can you even argue with the cold hard fact that over 90% of people on unemployment find work with in 6 weeks of running out of Benefits."
- No link given for this 'cold hard fact'
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/180859-food-stamps-are-stimulas-3.html

Isn't this amazing? It's a magical statistic that's all over the place and people just hear about it.

Now, do you want something with a source?

People on unemployment actually find work faster.
http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2010/el2010-12.html

Crazy, right?
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:55 AM
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1. The Last Time I was Unemployed I Found Work...
...4 months after my unemployment ran out. My wife lost her job 3 weeks after I started my job. She was not eligible for unemployment since the Catholic Schools in Maine don't contribute to the unemployment fund.

We wound up homeless for 7 months living in transitional housing before we "pulled ourselves up by the bootstraps".

Piss on you all, baggers.

PEACE!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:28 AM
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2. Nice compilation - frightening how a (false) meme takes off and morphs
Great object lesson in the rw political memes morphing - all data-less and false. That fact (data-less and false) sadly does nothing to stem the flood. k & r.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:16 AM
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3. excellent illustration of how a false talking point spreads
it'll probably be on CNN tomorrow night
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:33 AM
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4. Did you put this together yourself?

If so, fuckin' A! (an old colloquialism meaning 'That's awesome/amazing')

Well done, and thank you. Bookmarking.

:thumbsup:

K+R
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:35 PM
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8. Yes I did, the feeling of needing brainbleach from putting this together is very strong
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 11:15 PM
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9. Don't use bleach, use Scotch.
Trust me... I've learned. ;)

I hope people use your ordinance to counter the bullshit même on a wide scale.

Well done.
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leftguard55 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:35 AM
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5. Yep, it's a talking point...
..and it has been deliberately spread by the likes of the Murdoch media empire, talk radio, Tea Party/Republican politicians, et al.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:47 AM
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6. welcome to DU leftguard55 !! n/t
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 10:27 AM
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7. BS like a cancer, spreads nt
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