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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 01:50 AM
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Colbert had possibly the best coverage
of the WS demonstrations in Basic Cable...

Thank you Stephen, and thank you for showing us them "radicals' speaking coherently.

Reminds me off.. the early days of Wisconsin AGAIN.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:50 AM
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1. Only this time Big Ed is refusing to cover it. He must have a soft spot for bankers /nt
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:10 AM
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2. Implying MSNBC would even let him.
Independence in "journalism" is severely limited.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:06 PM
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3. I suspect he is not being allowed to
independent press is a nice dream
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:22 PM
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4. I understand what I imagine is happening, the boss says "news blackout", it just
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 06:03 PM by Dragonfli
disturbs me that all the ones one might expect to cover it comply without so much as a whimper of dissent. It lessons my opinion of them greatly. There were two others that appear to have had too much personal integrity to respond so placidly to management. Their fate was not horrible death, but something more tame like having to work on a new network.

I will never be able to have much, if any, respect for these people ever again for going so quietly into the dark night of propaganda via omission, it places them in the same class as Fox commentators that have become the willing tools of corporate control and misinformation. Omission is but a half step away from lying and they will find that step much easier now.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:38 PM
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7. he hates them.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:39 PM
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8. I used to think that until he joined the news blackout of their protesters /nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:40 PM
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9. he's not on tonight. any news about that? makes you wonder.
ed walks a fine line and mostly pushes it.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:14 PM
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14. I haven't been able to catch the show since I lost cable, the accounts of the silence troubled me,
Maybe he tried to report what was happening and the bosses got involved, I would owe him the biggest apology ever if he is actually trying to stand on principle. If that is the case, I would hope he goes to current TV with the rest of the truth tellers.

I think it is the beginning of the end of MSNBC as an anti-Pravdesque network, perhaps the new MSNBC is CURRENT TV.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:30 PM
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5. Reminds me of...
The worldwide anti-war demonstrations against BushCo's war... that were carried on CSPAN only, as I recall. There was a still photo in a couple of papers, but nothing really showed the magnitude of that peaceful and huge demonstration.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:59 PM
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6. Conceding that you are quite possibly right,
I'll play the Devil's Advocate. My guess is that it really hasn't made much of an impression on them yet. It is light years away from their mindset. The numbers aren't big yet and the arrests have been minimal. It's a left wing initiative (with lots of moderate support) and so it's unattractive by baiting true believers in the Liberal Bias myth. So it doesn't seem, yet, to be a corporatist defensive tactic but rather the casual indifference to left wing stories.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:42 PM
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10. Was this last nights episode(21st) or tonights(22nd)?
I missed last nights.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:52 PM
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12. Yeah last night
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:53 PM
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13. I'll check it out online tomorrow then.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:50 PM
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11. The fascinating thing to me is that the segment included the
stock Daily Show/Colbert meme that left wing demonstrations lack coherence of message, yet it also provided two examples of two compelling speakers articulating coherent reasons for the action. I think the NYC General Assembly left itself open for this comedic barb by badly phrasing the process for eventually coalescing on the demand(s). That may be inherent in the messy modifed consensus process being used (so far as I understand it). That problem will hopefully be remedied by swelling numbers, which will change the PR dynamic and the memes. Additional repression by Bloomberg, quite possible with larger numbers, will also help.

Does anybody have any good links on the action in Spain this year? That might be the most relevant comparison as events unfold.
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