A world of pain out there...

[autorank]

Why Negative Job Growth for the Past 11 Years?

[Cali_Democrat]

1. The Bush tax cuts will eventually work their magic

Just give it time.

[autorank]

3. Exactly, and they have...

Best source of revenue that wouldn't impact the economy and they were not repealed.

[Sal Minella]

11. Indeed. I'm sure there's at least one billionaire out there

seriously considering whether or not to have his garage re-roofed, so job creation is up and running.

[lunatica]

2. It's depressing

[autorank]

4. 11 years

And just a few more jobs but a lot more people. That's called an EPIC FAIL.

But the topic is never addressed head on as the key symptom of a dead economy.

[Kennah]

5. And remember that a season of the Saeculum lasts about 22 years

So we're only halfway through the misery, at best.

[autorank]

7. There is a season...

Very thought provoking response and, yes, I hit the Wiki dictionary on that one. But you're right. We're
screwed, absent some true genius and innovation on a global basis. None of that flowing from on high, so
it's time for some 13 year old science student to figure it out;)

[Kennah]

12. If you haven't read "The Fourth Turning" you simply must

Wiki has some fascinating stuff about the Strauss-Howe theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory

[autorank]

26. Thanks, it looks quite interesting!

[TBF]

6. K&R nt

[autorank]

8. Hey

Thanks TB (if I may be informal)

[TBF]

9. :)

:toast:

[kentuck]

10. It's like we don't want to face reality...

Of just how really depressed is our economy?

[autorank]

20. The fundamental reality on the situation (well, one of them anyway)

[FogerRox]

27. And the workfirce grows about 130k each month

1.5 million jobs are needed each year just to to tread water.

[autorank]

28. Love your FDR quote

"Cutting" is a desert of laziness and the Gitmo of the imagination.

[EFerrari]

13. Kick

[Honeycombe8]

14. What about Texas and Massachusetts? nt

[autorank]

25. Here you go

[Honeycombe8]

32. Thanks. Interesting stuff. nt

[autorank]

33. Welcome. Nevada and Calfornia - how long can they take it? n/t

[autorank]

37. Correct figures

I grabbed the wrong image for the previous chart and just now noticed. Sorry. These are the bls figures for
the balance of states

[TeamsterDem]

15. DAMN! We'd better cut the taxes for job creators again, and quick!

:sarcasm: :puke:

[Starry Messenger]

16. k&r

[mmonk]

17. We need to stop that there government spending.

Let them there free markets reign. Cut that there deficit. Saw it there on that there TV and heard from it from both parties.

[autorank]

18. Well, they said, "Let the markets take care of it"

,,,and they did, sure enough.

Got a big depression going, what do you do -> cut spending, which withdraws both jobs and stimulus from the depressed economy. You and I need to repeat this until we damn well believe it!

[mmonk]

24. That's how they have gotten so stupid. Repetition.

[OhioChick]

19. Depression n/t

[autorank]

41. Double dip DEPRESSION n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Good stuff, Mikey!

Damned truth.

[autorank]

23. Damned straight

And they can't stand the truth.

[neverforget]

22. My mother in law was laid off last week after 20 years.

She's in her 50's and I fear that she is going to have a hard time finding another job.....

[autorank]

29. I'm sorry to hear that

It's a hard market out there. Fortunately, there are employers and companies that go out of their way to be decent
because it's so hard. They will be remembered (like Amazon's free shipping all the time). Some tech companies - $20-$25
mil a year range - in this area, near DC, are going out of their way to provide good medical AND supplement it to keep
coverage at 100%. Guess what, the companies are the fastest growing around. Hope your mom runs into a good place to
work where it is in dignity and respect.

[fasttense]

30. Then there are the unemployed unemployed who are not even counted in the U6.

"There is a point at which the BLS stops considering an unemployed person unemployed. That point is reached when an unemployed person has not look for a job in the previous 12 months. When asked, the BLS replied, “The 3.9 million individuals not in the labor force that you are referring to responded that they wanted a job, but had not looked for a job in the last 12 months. They are not considered unemployed because they had not actively searched for work in the four weeks preceding the survey.""

So add those uncounted to your mix and you get 25% unemployment in many states.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/152401/11_reasons_why_the_unemployment_crisis_is_even_worse_than_you_think?page=entire

[autorank]

34. Thank you! Yes indeed

That is an excellent analysis.

Here's another excellent source - Shadow Government Statistics http://shadowstats.com

?hl=ad&t=1314970616
This analysis hits 25% unemployment right now.

"The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994. That estimate is added to the BLS estimate of U-6 unemployment, which includes short-term discouraged workers.


"The U-3 unemployment rate is the monthly headline number. The U-6 unemployment rate is the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) broadest unemployment measure, including short-term discouraged and other marginally-attached workers as well as those forced to work part-time because they cannot find full-time employment." John Williams

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

[ellisonz]

31. The Hawaii number isn't quite accurate in depicting the situation.

Hawaii has one of the highest costs of living in the United States. Plus the money that has come into the state over the last decade has gone right out and the vast majority has been left behind. It is no economic paradise.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/130380258.html

[autorank]

40. That article says a lot

It's tough in high income areas. Wages are higher but when the you know what hits the fan, the fall can be pretty
damn hard. Best wishes for Hawaii!

[Drew Richards]

35. oh no! according to this we are down to 26 states? or ...

should i take my tin foil hat off? j/k :tinfoilhat: :evilgrin:

[autorank]

36. Didn't you get the memo?

I thought you were on the distribution list.

Here's the rest of them. I just cut it off at 15% U-6, more manageable chart. But it's ugly all the way down, except North Dakota, which, btw, has a state bank that works for THE PEOPLE. Go figure.

[Drew Richards]

38. thanks :)

[autorank]

39. Welcome!

[jtuck004]

44. It's an austerity measure. /nt

[leftstreet]

42. USA! USA!

Too late to rec, missed it

[autorank]

43. Oh say, USA

Why have a nation if we're not going to protect it from the greed of the financial elite!