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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:23 PM
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"Well, that's just life!" A young Republican Christian's answer to
people with no insurance dying from lack of health care. Would that be Darwinian Socialism if one actually believed in Darwin? The survival of the fittest and all of that stuff.

Talk about a jaw droppingly stupid remark! Just let them all eat cake. What does it matter as long as I am insured and sheltered and have a job.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:24 PM
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1. If Jesus were real....
...he would bitch slap that bastard.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:30 PM
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9. He is .. and he will.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:01 PM
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35. Maybe.
I am not so convinced. There is a God. Maybe. I'm a little noncommittal at this point.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:59 AM
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49. Jesus "was" real...But like all human beings that...
lived 2000yrs ago he is dead.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:24 PM
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2. right wing "Christians" are just
embarrassing.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:26 PM
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3. How utterly Christian....Jesus Christ.
Lou
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Ben Gay Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:31 PM
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11. Well, you might think you were being sarcastic but it is in PERFECT harmony with
Christianity as it is propounded by the Christian Bible and practiced by those who adhere to it. Aren't you aware of the promise of immortality 'guaranteed' to those who accept Jesus? The religion is based on and supported by all the aspects of death which is either accepted or ignored...it is the farthest thing from life-affirming as any ology could possibly be.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:38 PM
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20. Yeah, well I'm a recovering Roman Catholic and I say to each his/her own. Thanks
Lou
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Ben Gay Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:16 PM
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38. I didn't mean to single out any particular religion for ridicule...
I find them all to be equally delusional and reprehensible.
:-)
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:45 PM
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41. I feel the same way about all religions where those that practice it, practice hate in its name or
try to force others to follow their beliefs. I didn't feel that you singled our any particular religion in your first reply though.
Lou
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:36 AM
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57. Gee, I don't know Ben.
I read some stuff in there about feeding the hungry, caring for the sick, and providing for the poor. There was also some stuff about not judging people lest I be judged myself. And loving others as much as I love myself - that was in there too.

There was also some really weird erotic love poetry in the Old Testament that I thought was cool.

If you ask me, the trouble isn't with the Bible or Christianity. The Bible is like a roarshach test. People look for things to justify their own attitudes and behaviors. Where I see God commanding me to be compassionate and generous with my fellow man, others read the same book and imagine that they see God giving them an excuse to act like dicks. Because, make no mistate, they were going to act like dicks regardless.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:28 PM
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4. American Jesus sucks
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:09 PM
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36. lol. im stealing that - american jesus
:rofl:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:34 PM
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12. The one's i know are pretty set in cement.
Let's face it. Most of these really right wing Christians are not very educated people. The one's I know certainly aren't. Unless you consider college at a Christian College a good education.

Some of these kids have spent their whole lives in Christian schools. They go from grade school clear through to college. And then they marry someone who thinks just like they do. And they tend to be very careful who they associate with - don't want any of the bad thoughts to rub off.

And some are homeschooled by parents who aren't much smarter than a ficus plant.

It's really a very sorry state of affairs.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:29 PM
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6. ...
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 06:39 PM by Lost-in-FL
:yoiks:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:35 PM
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14. I think I may have made that up. n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:29 PM
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7. Republican Christians are a black hole for logic.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:29 PM
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8. The lack of compassion is utterly appalling.
x(
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:37 PM
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18. Its beyond appalling
These people aren't even human anymore.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:31 PM
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10. "That's just life?" I bet this speaker also is "PRO-LIFE"
BUT...conservatives have fudged up the political discourse SO MUCH (thanks a lot, Frank Luntz the klutz!) that "pro-life" is reserved ONLY for the fetus, not an unemployed PERSON with no health insurance. Fuck this fool and fuck religion.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:36 PM
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17. Life begins at conception...
and ends at birth.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:34 PM
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13. You mean social Darwinism
That's what it is, and it has nothing to do with Charles Darwin. It predates him by quite a bit of time.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:42 PM
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23. Maybe it came out of life in Victorian England.
Life really sucked for poor people in London at that time.
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:35 PM
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15. Yes, as I recall that's EXACTLY what Jesus told the leper.
"Sorry bout yer recent run of bad luck, chief, see ya in the afterlife."

Erm...wait...no, that wasn't what he said was it. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:37 PM
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19. Oh, that's funny.
These people really aren't about religion at all. They are just kind of into group hate. Makes them feel better about their own poor selves.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:17 PM
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39. "Alms for an ex-leper"...
"There's just no pleasing some people"

"That's just what Jesus said"
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:35 PM
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16. Research has shown conservatives are good at reconciling
social asymmetries. Regardless of it's unChristian-like tone, it fits with conservative beliefs.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:39 PM
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21. Matthew 25:41-46 It matters.
This boy's gonna burn.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:40 PM
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22. Actually, this was a young woman.
Not that it makes a huge difference - it's all the same stupid stuff.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:26 PM
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42. Try Matthew 23, too.
That one isn't too kind to folks of that mindset either. :)
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:43 PM
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24. "Well, that's just life!"
Life: What a beautiful choice. :sarcasm:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:47 PM
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28. It's such an awful thing to say.
I couldn't believe it.

Hey, buddy. Can you spare a dime?

I really don't know what percent of the population here in the Midwest really thinks like this. Seems like i run into these people a lot.

But there are lots of really good, kind people here, too. We have a lot of pretty rigid Baptists and Holy Rollers around but we also have a lot of really nice Presbyterians and Methodists, too. They tend to be very liberal.

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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:44 PM
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25. It IS Life.
Life in America, that is.

Thanks to royal assholes like the "Christian" you spoke with.

However, it is NOT life in civilized, Enlightened countries.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:44 PM
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26. Where did you see this? Linky? n/t
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:50 PM
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30. I didn't "see" it.
A good friend of mine - a very liberal Dem - was telling about his conversation with this person at work.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:58 PM
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32. Okay, I didn't know this was hearsay as the source was never mentioned. Thanks.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:00 PM
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34. Well, one degree of separation.
He's a very good source.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:45 PM
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27. They say that until something bad happens to them.
Then they sing a whole 'nother tune.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:49 PM
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29. Exactly.
This a young woman with no life experience at all.

Kind of pitiful, really.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:45 AM
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54. +1
When it gets personal, that's when they change their tune. They are incapable of feeling empathy for other persons.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:57 PM
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31. funny thing if one of his family members got really sick you watch
how liberal he'll become to want to get medical care. I don't understand the republican attitude it isn't a right to have health insurance, its fine if you can afford it. So if you don't die.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:59 PM
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33. One told me I need to join one of those pay into medical plans
The one's that aren't insurance. You just pay in each month and then they pay your bills if you get sick.

I don't know what that is all about. Kind of sounds like another ponzi scheme.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:28 AM
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45. They just don't want to have to pay for it
out of their pockets.

I never was able to just look the other way when I saw suffering.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:11 PM
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37. I had a right-wing guy say that to me once. "It's survival of the fittest in all things" .
I told him..."Cool....Since I outweigh you by 80 pounds and am 6' 4", Give me your fucking wallet and the keys to your house and car."

He didn't like the scenario. :) :)
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Ben Gay Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 07:19 PM
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40. Absent laws that attempt to contravene natural selection, your approach would have been
one hundred percent in accord with natural law. :-)

In our not so infinite wisdom we have attempted to legally enforce the notion that every human is exactly equal in every imaginable way. It is a fool's errand and will probably end the species if we don't abandon the failed experiment. (That is a true progressive approach to the situation, by the way) :-)

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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:20 AM
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44. Well, except that Natural Law doesn't work very well for the individual.
We developed the concept of society for some really good reasons. Like so that life was worth living.

I don't think I would have survived more than a day if it weren't for the intervention of health care.

Course, we wouldn't have a population problem like we do now.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:45 AM
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55. I love this!!!
What a cool response!!!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:27 PM
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43. Some Republicans have no empathy.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:37 AM
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46. “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
Mahatma Gandhi

(If this is a quote incorrectly attributed to Mahatma Gandhi, I'm sure a brilliant DUer will let me know; it's listed at several reliable sites as being his quote)



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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:47 AM
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47. but. . . it's not life, it's death!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:47 AM
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48. No, that's just death; and the Republicans and insurance companies are the death panels.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:54 AM
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50. This kid obviously thinks she qualifies as one of "the fittest" ...
Edited on Fri Sep-23-11 06:55 AM by surrealAmerican
... and doesn't have enough imagination to see how that could change. Humans are social creatures, part of our survival is based on our ability and willingness to take care of one another.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:36 AM
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51. Well, we all know...
that Jesus asked to see an insurance card before healing anyone. </sarcasm> :crazy:

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:38 AM
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52. Raised on Reagan.
Thanks to the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, we now have two generations who've been brought up to believe the conservative swill.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:44 AM
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53. Most suburban Republican "Christians" have no idea what Jesus actually taught
Their real religion is being an affluent suburban American, and therefore, as they see it, the highest form of humanity. Their religion is all "me-me-me," which is ironic, considering that the earliest evangelicals were quite socially conscious.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:52 AM
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56. Don't you know it's just unworthy people who are uninsured? :sarcasm: nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:37 AM
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58. So much for that caring for the least among us baloney.
Boo, Jesus. Hiss, boo.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 05:29 AM
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59. I'm not sure but I think that is kind of how you tell the real Christians from
the phony baloney ones.

If they just got arrested for feeding sandwiches and soup to the homeless you know you have the real deal.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:19 AM
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60. Spoken in the abstract
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 07:20 AM by quaker bill
These folks have no earthly idea what they are asking for, who and how many would be affected, and what that country they seek would look and feel like. If they get what they are asking for, almost everyone will have at least a friend or two who are dying without healthcare, many far more than that. In that world it will not be all that difficult to find children here suffering severe malnourishment without hope of aid.

The ensuing revolt that would surely arise from this would redistribute wealth in ways only Marx and Engles considered appropriate. Curiously, most of them would end up being participants.
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