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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:07 PM
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Perry stumbles during the debate according to CNN. Tea Party guy says everybody
on stage was "singing out of our songbook". Who will the tea party back if Perry keeps falling?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:10 PM
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1. They'll either jump back to Bachman or someone new will appear nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:11 PM
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2. Perry has had nothing but lame ass Texas Democrats as opponents for the last 20 years
Now on a national stage he finds himself with real actual competition and he's not hacking it.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:19 PM
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6. His first race was beating Jim Hightower, who previous to that,
had lost one race, to Ann Richards. The rest of his opponents may well have been lame but not his first one.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:21 PM
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7. Point well taken
But that was a long time ago.

Back when the Democrats used to win elections in Texas.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:34 PM
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11. Jim Hightower in my book is a class act
Perry beat Hightower? Too bad for texas; I guess shite rolls down hill.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:18 AM
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16. for railroad commissioner the same year richards lost the governorship
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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:47 PM
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3. I think theyre stuck with Romney.
Perry has been bad in debates and this was his worst yet. he was terrible. He is unprepared and cant think on his feet.

I think you're going to start seeing Tea Partiers resigned to the fact that Romney is going to be the nominee.

This is bad news for Obama. The economy is already bad, and Romney is a moderate that has appeal to independents.

If I had to predict today Id say Ronmey is going to be the next president. I wish Ginsburg would retire.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:51 PM
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4. I saw Romney during the second debate. He doesn't "pop". He never comes alive. It is like watching
black and white tv. I think Obama can beat him. Especially now that Obama is a 'fighting man'.
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Worship Money Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:21 PM
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8. For sure
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 11:22 PM by Worship Money
People are forgetting just how much of a force Obama really is, especially compared to any of these "people".

If it were 2009-10ish Obama, who was still confused as to why he couldn't find any success with negotiation, I'd be a little worried. I'd KNOW he could handle it, but that he wouldn't go for the kill when need be.

Now...well, yeah. He will annihilate Perry or Romney and call them out for the ridiculous, dangerous things they've said. He will destroy them.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:17 PM
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5. Let's see what happens to Romney in the next round of the "health" "care" debate. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:23 PM
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9. Teabaggers won't turn out for him, Evangelicals won't turn out for him.
And he will be "John Kerry'd" for his consistent inconsistencies.

The caveat is if Obama does not take him for granted.
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Worship Money Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:25 PM
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10. Let's also remember
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 11:25 PM by Worship Money
That the Tea Party is owned. The Tea Party is told what to do.

For all the ostensible small government talk, they break this rule whenever convenient, whenever they are given the hint to do so by the powers that be. They are ideologically bankrupt.

That's why the establishment will decide on a candidate, and suddenly the Tea Party will worship him. IMO, it will be Romney.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:09 AM
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12. I wasn't really paying attention to the Republicans in 2008, but I'm wondering
how they ended up with what might have been the most moderate candidate last time. I don't remember much about the order in which the candidates dropped out and why. I'm thinking about this because I'm wondering if the same thing might happen again; if there are fewer moderate choices, then the moderates might more-easily form a plurality which could defeat several more right-wing candidates.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:48 AM
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13. You clearly do not understand the teabagger view of life, the universe and everything
Governor Perry did not stumble tonight. Only the lame stream media is saying he stumbled, because the pointy-headed librulcommienazipinkoleftistfascist intellectuals in the librul media who hate all thing wonderful, holy and American want the real American people to think that Governor Perry stumbled.

But real Americans, who are all Christians, not Muslims or Jews or Mormons or anything like that (hey, we finally decided that Catholics are Christians, didn't we?) know that Governor Perry is Jesus' candidate and that he walks on water and therefore cannot stumble. Sarah Palin stumbled and Michele Bachmann stumbled, but that was God's sign to us that He is not ready to let women out of the kitchen and be President of the United States, the head of the free world and God's chosen people.

And now, we Christian Americans will light up the night sky with blazing crosses as we cheer the deaths of people who did not deserve to have health insurance or those people of color who get mixed up in a murder, well, they guy in Georgia would have committed one soon or later even if he didn't do that one my gosh but these people should show some personal responsibility and pick white parents next time and maybe they just won't have so much trouble.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:17 AM
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14. Look ... Tea Baggers constitute a small percentage of the whole electorate ...
Edited on Fri Sep-23-11 03:19 AM by Trajan
They are disliked by FAR MORE citizens then who love them .... They arent shit ....

They have the GOP leadership by the fucking balls, but DUers should stop promoting them as a force of nature ....

CNN, MSNBC, FOX news ... most of the newspapers all give them far too much coverage .... But the reality is: Their measly 20% isnt going anywhere .... DUers should stop putting them on a pedestal and start giving them their true due - extreme criticism and declamation ...

Loud mouths with tiny hands .... They will not prevail .... especially after this next government shutdown debacle .... Even mainline GOP are pissed ....
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:17 AM
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15. The baggers serve a purpose
as long as they keep the loons in play. With luck, they will keep the nomination close and send one or two of the loons to the repug convention with enough delegates to command some primetime speaking slots. The public needs a real dose of this nonsense, of the full on unfiltered BS variety, so they finally begin to understand what they will be getting if they elect any of them. Put it in primetime, the wacky economic theories, the gold standard, floridation, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, give more money to the wealthy, anti-direct election of senators, Soc. Security ponzi schemes, ...the works.

Baggerism has worn out its welcome and we need the constant contrast to make real populism work as a meme.
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