I won't be voting for Obama in the next election.

[edhopper]

I will be voting against whatever neanderthal asshat the GOP puts up in opposition.
But I feel so disappointing in Obama that I am not pulling the lever for him, but against his opponent.
Of course that means I also won't be working for his campaign, as I did the last time. And I don't think I am alone.
He might think he can keep disparaging and ignoring his base, and compromise (capitulate) to the Repugs without consequence. Or he might simple not be the man I thought and thinks the GOP are full of great ideas, like keeping the wealthy and bankers happy. It's just hard to find ground for support anymore.

[sinkingfeeling]

1. So, if you're not voting for Obama nor the GOP candidate, I guess you're hoping for a

3rd. party candidate?

[Lucky 13]

2. Read the damn post

He's saying that he will VOTE for Obama... but it's not really voting FOR Obama, it's voting AGAINST the republicans.

[edhopper]

4. Read my post again.

My vote won't be FOR him. It will be AGAINST his opponent. He still gets the vote. But it is unenthusiastically and brings no other effort with it, as it did last time, like traveling to another State to work for him.
Losing the backing of your base is no small thing. It could mean even bigger loses in Congress.

[olegramps]

15. Many who hoped for Change feel the say way.

My enthusiasm has waned. I no longer have any hope in significant changes. I realized that he had a difficult task ahead of him, but I never expected him to be so weak on key issues. Even if he was unable to get everything we wanted, he could have set the tone for eventual change in the cases of financial reform, health care and taxes.

This where I see that he failed. He should have made it crystal clear to the citizens that these were key issues and the obstruction by the Republicans was solely in the interest of corporations who own them. He could have said okay, I can't win, but the Republican obstructionists are the sworn enemy of the working class. He should have made it a clear that it was class warfare; the wealthy against the workers and that the wealthy were determined to defeat any measure that didn't further enrich them at the expense of the working class. He totally failed and let the Republicans define the issue.

[lame54]

27. he is technically voting Obama...

but in his heart he is voting AGAINST the opposition

[SidDithers]

3. So, you're voting for Obama then...nt

Sid

[xiamiam]

5. no he is voting against the gop candidate..nt

[edhopper]

7. I guess nuance

is lost on some here.

I also assume the loss of the dedication of your base is no big deal either to some.

[SidDithers]

10. When you've got your ballot in front of you....

you'll probably have, I don't know, 4 or 5 choices for President including Greens and Independents.

Voting for Obama is still voting for Obama.

Sid

[edhopper]

11. But not working for him

or trying to convince others to vote for him is still to the campaign (I am talking about all the others who feel as I do).
Do you think the loss of a spirited base has no consequence?

[SidDithers]

13. You'll be replaced by some other supporter...

and life will go on.

Sid

[edhopper]

19. I doubt that

the legion of supporters from the last election will not return.
Glad you are so cavalier about this.

[Morning Dew]

24. You have to understand

that, on one hand, you are of no consequence. On the other hand, it will be ALL your fault if the President is not re-elected.

That's how these things work.

K&R

[SidDithers]

33. Obama thanks you for your vote...nt

Sid

[howaboutme]

16. There needs to be consequences for actions

and that is necessary to change behavior whether it be politicians or kids. Without consequences and there will never be change.

Sometimes it is necessary to discipline children in ways that create real hardship and inconvenience for parents but the pain is necessary for long term gain. I may not even vote.

[Lucky 13]

8. Yes, the arm twisting has worked.

We have no choice but to appease our hostage-takers.

[apocalypsehow]

38. Bingo.

:thumbsup:

[BeyondGeography]

6. Whatever works

The last time some people on our side said there was no difference between the parties they were sadly wrong. The next time would be even sadder.

[edhopper]

9. Obviously

considering my description of the opposition, I see a difference.
Thanks for missing the point of my post.

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. I'm with you on that sentiment.

[Recursion]

14. Yeah. Well, the people I volunteered with weren't very ideological

So I don't know how many volunteers he's really going to lose. YMMV.

[TheKentuckian]

23. Volunteers are a tiny fraction of the electorate

If they weren't ideological then they wouldn't be there.

[Recursion]

32. Exactly; losing one voter isn't as big as losing one volunteer

If they weren't ideological then they wouldn't be there.

Unless they were sick of ideology trumping everything else.

[cbdo2007]

17. Oh good, another day, another threat that won't be carried through with.

Give it up, we know you'll come around over the next two years and vote for Obama. Everyone here will.

[edhopper]

20. But i will not be working for him

or donating to his campaign.
Does this not matter?

[cbdo2007]

36. Not really. Do you think you're the reason Obama was elected last time? Your time and $$$????

haha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahahaha

It doesn't matter at all actually. I'm sorry to break it to you that you're just that insignificant but it's the truth.

Obama's going to do just fine without you, though I'm 99.9999% sure you're still voting for him still.

[Lucky 13]

28. Christ almighty. READ THE POST.

He's saying he WILL vote for Obama... but it's not a vote for Obama... it's a vote against Republicans.

[AlabamaLibrul]

18. IBTL / extraordinary rendition

end of transmission

[NoPasaran]

21. I hope you've alerted the media

I would hate for this important story to be missed among all the reports about the final week of Christmas shopping.

[edhopper]

26. And all the others

who feel the same way, they are of no importance either?

[KansasVoter]

22. I will vote for Obama for the same reason

[lamp_shade]

25. Geeze. A crowd seems to be gathering at the top of the cliff.

[HughBeaumont]

29. That's pretty much all you CAN do nowadays.

Vote AGAINST Republicans.

We'll get an alien president before we'll get a progressive one. Conservatives very rarely ingest bullets or ride suddenly malfunctioning planes. This country is just too corporatized and with a Republican president, that cancer will only get worse and more emboldened.

[Lucky 13]

30. Holy christ. There are some DUMB fucking people replying to this thread.

He IS voting for Obama.

But it's less a vote for Obama and more a vote against the Rethugs.

People just can't WAIT to jump all over your shit here. And in the process they make complete jackasses of themselves.

[edhopper]

31. K & effin R dude!

[Bluebear]

37. You said it. nt

[AndrewP]

39. Some peeps didn't read the whole thing through it seems n/t

[Coyote_Bandit]

34. If there is another name on my ballot

I will be voting AGAINST Obama in the next Dem primaries.

[stray cat]

35. Join the rest of the US who has been choosing between the lesser evil since the country started

[TorchTheWitch]

40. in other words - you're voting for Obama

You can THINK about the vote however you like, but the REALITY of the vote is that you'll be voting for Obama.

[edhopper]

43. And the phone calls i don't make

The doorbells i don't ring.
Also not important?

[Tx4obama]

41. Regarding volunteers

In our age of Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, 24/7 cable news, robo-calls, online voter registration, etc,
volunteers are still important but they are not as important as they used to be say 20-30 years ago.

[edhopper]

42. There

are also the people who came out for Obama last time and will just stay home.
But folks here apparently don't think they matter either.

[cottonseed]

44. I hate him for killing all my chickens and stealing my rice. And I'll hold my nose.

Stinking bankers.