The reason I think E Warren will be first lady POTUS

[musiclawyer]

is that she's not a lifetime pro politician, so she does not speak in gray tones and equivocation. She leads. Second, she will surpass the base mobilization performed by Obama. She gets the traditional base and she will get the millions of single ladies who don't vote. Then watch her go on Univision. Nail meet coffin for GOP and the Latinos. Trust me I'm one of them.
Finally she has seen first hand how crappy advisers can cripple a presidency. She will have new blood, good advisors that the base essentially pre-approves. The third point is speculative on my part. But she's smarter than me and most of you, so I would not be surprised.
Like I've said before. She is dangerous to the GOP as a department head. She is absolutely kryponite to people like jeb bush as a politician when she gets in front of cameras. Warren plus a popular western state governor and it's game over .....

[gateley]

1. Somebody unrecc'd this! I think she makes sense and will

resonate with ALL people who truly listen to her. You may very well be right.

And we the people have pretty much had it with pro politicians - it's not working.

[banned from Kos]

3. wasn't me (since I just voted put a plug in for the Senator)

I like Warren too much.

[louslobbs]

19. And I just rec'd it in return.

Lou

[nilram]

29. up to 65 now.

[banned from Kos]

2. my money would go on Senator Gillibrand

Warren will be 67 in 2016 - don't see that election happening.

[loyalsister]

4. Agree

We should look out for someone in their 40s - 50s. It's more practical, and there's better chance that they can connect with some key demographics.

[Samantha]

37. I don't think age matters any more than sexual preference or skin tone

It is the package which is offered that counts.

Sam

[loyalsister]

44. In other contexts, I agree

But, running for a first term has an implied 8 year commitment.

The facts of life matter. Stamina and health decline with age- not just sometimes. Always. It is how we are built.
Some may not think it matters, but I see it as a legitimate concern.

[redwitch]

27. Senator Gillibrand is my bet too.

:-)

[tomg]

45. As a New Yorker from next door

to her old district ( my rep is Mo Hinchey), I really thought Kristen Gillibrand would be some bland, DLC type.
So as my SO likes to tell me on such occasions, "now don't you feel like a damn fool." I don't know if Gillibrand will be a candidate, but I wouild be very happy with her. She has been very good, although I would still prefer Elizabeth Warren.

[redwitch]

65. I absolutely think she will run for prez at some point.

I could be happy with either but know Sen Gillibrand better. I just don't want the 1st woman prez to be a dangerous idiot like Palin or Bachmann.

[tomg]

85. I hope Gillibrand runs at some point. I have

really surprised and happy with Senator Gillibrand.

[BlueMTexpat]

Deleted as dupe. Sorry, frantic finger.

[BlueMTexpat]

58. As a 67-year-old who is beginning a whole new career phase myself,

I think that you underestimate 67-year-olds. It's a fourth career phase for me and I'm loving it!

My husband, in his 70s, began a whole new career as a volunteer and ended up travelling around the world as well to help various groups.

We "seniors" are a lot younger than we used to be. You'll discover that when YOU get here. :evilgrin:

[Jackpine Radical]

73. Reagan was 70 when he took office the first time in 1981

Hell, I'll be 67 next month.

I was a mere youth, in my 50's, when I started my snark attacks here.

[durablend]

81. How old was "angry gramps" back in 2008?

He almost got in

[Jackpine Radical]

82. Older than Raygun.

Older than pond scum.

But I repeat myself.

[PatSeg]

78. Wow, I thought she was much younger than that

Maybe mid forties to fifties.

[timtom]

5. Somehow this resonates with me. nt

[unblock]

6. i think she's phenomenal, and i wish she would become potus soon, BUT

realistically, the power structure in this country is far too strong and far too right-wing to let that happen.

before someone like her has a realistic chance of becoming president, the ultra rich must be weakened significantly, and i don't see how that can possibly happen during the time she'd make a viable candidate.

[Nye Bevan]

7. She's certainly become a darling of DU, but I think everyone is jumping the gun a little.

Let's she how she does in her senatorial race against Scott Brown. If she runs a great campaign and wipes the floor with him, she will obviously be in contention for 2016. If it's gaffe-prone and she loses, on the other hand, then not so much. She has a great opportunity to position herself for the future and I hope she makes the most of it.

[Dagaz]

47. Brown is popular in Mass

Warren has some work ahead of her.

[Myrina]

63. Even if she wins the seat, we need to see what kind of Senator she turns out to be ...

... before anointing her the nominee in 2016. After all, we got a freshman senator as Dem nominee and elected POTUS this go-round and he hasn't lived up to the hype.

[MilesColtrane]

8. I think most people would hesitate to vote for someone for President who hasn't held any...

kind of governing elected office before.

That has only happened twice in the nation's history, the last time being over 80 years ago.

[Capitalocracy]

52. ?

Obama?

[MilesColtrane]

59. No, not Obama.

He was a state senator for 7+ years and a member or the U.S. Senate for 4+ years.

I'm referring to Herbert Hoover and William Howard Taft.

(There have been others who made the jump from high military rank though.)

[Jackpine Radical]

71. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

I, too, thought you meant--specifically--a governor, since it is relatively rare to go from the Senate to the White House. So I was thinking Obama--JFK--

[Capitalocracy]

84. Yeah, people criticized Obama for not having administrative experience

I thought that's what this person was referring to.

And I think people who are talking about Warren running for president at a future date are assuming she'll win this Senate run or some future election before that.

[CloakedClock]

57. Well, if she wins her Senate run, that will be a non-issue. n/t

[Doc Holliday]

72. "eighty years ago?"

Aren't you forgetting Ike? Or did he get elected to something without telling me before he became President?

[MilesColtrane]

76. Mentioned in passing in post #59 above

Still doesn't apply as far as Ms. Warren is concerned though.

[whosinpower]

9. Elizabeth Warren is great BUT

She alone cannot save America. Nor should we expect her to perform miracles. The GOP will not run and hide at her admittance to the Senate. They will attack, attack, attack. Nothing will stop them from attacking except the american voter.

She is great - but she needs help and support. I think it is premature to elevate aspirations of the presidency when she is just barely beginning to campaign.

[ehrnst]

10. But don't the visionaries always get shot down in DC politics?

I just don't know if POTUS has the luxury of being a visionary. They die young, if they get there.

Thurgood Marshall was most effective on the courts, MLK in the streets & Al Gore as a speaker.

Sometimes you make more of a difference when you don't deal with White House back doors.

[Martin Eden]

12. I'm afraid of a different kind of getting "shot down"

If Elizabeth Warren comes close to being president and implementing real change we can believe in, I would fear for her life.

[Politicalboi]

35. I already do

We are dealing with "crazies" these days.

[usrname]

53. I know what you mean.

She's too honest and powerful for the GOP (and maybe even for some Dems).

I'd hate to see her lying in a ditch with three shots to the back of the head and an autopsy indicating that she committed suicide. Case closed.

[PatSeg]

79. From what I've seen and heard from her,

I'm thinking she would be more effective as a senator, but it is too soon to say. Ted Kennedy accomplished far more as a senator than he could have as a president, in my opinion anyway.

[Pterodactyl]

11. Well, she'd better get in the race. Primary season is about to start.

[Nye Bevan]

13. I don't think the OP was referring to 2012 (nt)

[Pterodactyl]

74. Maybe she should, though. It might be an improvement.

She's certainly popular around here.

[Ilsa]

14. I'd like to see her do most of a term in the senate, then run in 2016. nt

[Vincardog]

20. I believe that is the plan. Warren 2016

[bluerum]

15. God - what dream that would be. The gOp has their attack dogs out already.

[harun]

60. They are very afraid of her, as well they should be.

[secondwind]

16. I see her as a POTUS candidate in 2016........ Love her!

[customerserviceguy]

17. Let's see if she can win a Senate seat

before we make her President. She'll have her hands full with the megabankers using super PAC's to slam the hell out of her, you know they really, really, really despise her.

[lunatica]

18. I like the idea of her as President

She's a real fighter. This country, including those teabagger ingrates, need her to implement her ideas nationally. But no matter what she's doing and will continue to do excellent things for this country. I'm grateful she's decided to run.

[Autumn]

21. I so want to see a woman President in my lifetime.

I hope and pray I live that long. And she is just perfect. I was so moved by her speech on the rich using what we pay for.

[WhiteTara]

22. As a senator, she has a 6 year term.

That's something to consider.

[Bjorn Against]

25. She would be in a slightly better position than Obama was when he ran

Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004 and was elected President four years later in 2008, Warren would be in an identical position to Obama in that regard but unlike Obama she will also have some executive experience from her work establishing the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

[glinda]

23. all the focus on her will surely get her attacks early and planning....

[Capitalocracy]

30. She's already getting attacked, but all those attacks are ideological

As far as we know so far, she's untouchable in terms of consistency and integrity and skeletons in the closet. So all they can do is call her a Commie, and they will, and they are, but that only works on the people who would never vote for her anyway.

[glinda]

43. I know but I expect the worse from them.

[Capitalocracy]

In a rare moment of optimism

I believe their worst may not be bad enough.

[proud patriot]

24. I'll support that all the way

[femrap]

26. She's a

WOMAN....NOT A 'FIRST LADY.'

Why is it so hard to refer to women as women????????????????????????

Lady??????????? :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Do we refer to a dude as 'boy' or 'gentleman?'

shit........we're living back in the 1950's....just look at TV with it's 'new' shows about Playboy Clubs and Stewardesses.

I'm living a nightmare and can't wake up.

BACKLASH RETRO NIGHTMARE! :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

There aren't any emoticons to express my depth of feelings.

[nilram]

28. ..

[The Doctor.]

31. She says what she feels, knows, and means.

That pretty well disqualifies her right there. Also, the M$M would let her have the shot just like my little Dachshund would nurture a nest of baby rabbits.

[PragmaticLiberal]

32. I like Warren but I think you guys are jumping the gun a bit...

Let's see where she stands on various issues before we anoint her.


And fwiw, don't be surprised if MD governor Martin O'Malley is the "next-in-line".


Thats the scuttlebutt in D.C.

[alp227]

33. can her husband really be a good president? n/t

[JDPriestly]

34. I will gladly vote for Elizabeth Warren for president or pretty much any other office.

The sooner the better.

[mckara]

36. I TRUST Her!!! How Many Leaders are in that Boat???

[emsimon33]

38. My thoughts, too!

I wish that she would run against Obama but maybe it is best that she be a senator first.

[Marrah_G]

39. Only if she doesn't turn into a politician

I think she is wonderful and I hope she doesn't sell her soul during this race. We need a fight, not afraid to continue speaking her mind even if it means pissing off donors.

[midnight]

40. K&R I like the sound of this..

[earcandle]

41. She would be my pick for a primary challenge to kick Obama's butt over to the left of center...

[earcandle]

42. I could dig her as POTUS.

[Brigid]

46. Some day soon . . .

The GOP might wish she was running the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

[Capitalocracy]

51. Inspiring post.

I hope you're right.

[AverageJoe90]

48. If she ran in 2016.....

I would DEFINITELY vote for her. No questions asked. =)

[Firebrand Gary]

49. Listen my friends, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

We need progressive members of Congress, we need to stop putting our faith in potential Presidents. Let's take this one step at a time and see if we can get her into the Senate.

[Capitalocracy]

50. from 20 points behind to 2 points ahead in a couple of days

This is a demonstration of the power of taking a stand for the people. Real leadership is not just good policy, it's also good politics.

[dameocrat67]

54. I admire her as much as anyone, and would like her to run in 2012

not 2016, but this self righteous fanboydom of telling people the candidate is way smarter than the rest of us, and there fore should not be questioned, is why I cant stand obama anymore. please cut it out.

[Name removed]

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[jonthebru]

56. One step at a time.

[madokie]

61. If I'm still alive in '16 I'll vote for her

[Myrina]

62. ... but she couldn't get appointed to the position that she REALLY would be best in ...

... obviously there are some at the top of the old boys' behind closed doors power structure that will not allow her anywhere NEAR a seat of true power. Sorry.

[mwb970]

64. I agree - Warren will be our first female president.

I saw her speaking on TV just the other day and said to my friend, "Watch closely - you're looking at a future president." God, I hope I was right.

[sagesnow]

66. From your computer ....

to Higher Power's SysOp. :)

[Hotler]

67. She is smart. She is dangerous and because of that...

the TPTB will never allow her close to the White House except to take the tour.

[w0nderer]

68. k&r n/t

[CrispyQ]

69. I love her & would pair her with Schweitzer. --nt

[xxqqqzme]

70. She is a leader!

We haven't had a leader in this country since the rethuglicans decided the Clenis was their fastest way to grab power.

She's thoughtful, is excellent at 'framing' and has a path for the future. Count me as a strong supporter.

[JGug1]

75. E. Warren

Way to go......You are thinking the way I am thinking. She
would have three years in Senate by time of starting a
campaign for 2016. She won't be touched by dirt. She will have
made very strong statements on her positions, all of which
will be supportive of the middle class and those below it. She
COULD do it. I'd LOVE it.

[RoccoR5955]

77. If they don't assassinate her first n/t

[totodeinhere]

80. No, I still think it will be Hillary Clinton. In spite of what she says now it wouldn't

surprise me to see her go for the 2016 nomination. After all, she and Elizabeth Warren, whom I admire greatly by the way, would be approximately the same age. If Hillary wants the 2016 nomination I believe it will be hers for the taking.

I realize that there are many at DU who don't regard Clinton as progressive enough. But DU isn't the Democratic Party as a whole and IMO she would be just fine for the vast majority of Democrats.

[quakerboy]

83. We can hope

I am impressed with what I have seen of her.

Though that leads me in the opposite direction of you. All those are reason I think that she would not be allowed to become POTUS. Then again, my skeptical side told me that they would never allow a mixed race person to be president, much less a leftie, visionary former community worker. I am still not sure that they did.

[SharonRB]

86. I totally agree

She'd be great.

[WCGreen]

87. how's about we get her elected to the Senate and see how effective

she is before we start making plans for the Oval Office...