Mass arrest at Occupy Wall Street, over 80 arrested, including media team

[Puregonzo1188]

A video from the live stream has surfaced of the arrests, and news coming the website indicates 80 people have been arrested and 5 have been maced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z5AyGANrRk

https://occupywallst.org/

Wish I had some better sources, but apparently the corporate media doesn't think this is a news story.

[StandingInLeftField]

1. Live feed can be found here

http://anonops.blogspot.com/

[Hissyspit]

59. Much Violent Police Behavior in VIDEO Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x619163

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. K&R!!!!

[RC]

9. At least 13 cops to guard a fiberglass bull?

Someone's priorities ain't straight.
Well, at least they are not in harms way fighting crime.

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. They are protecting their symbol. There is the evidence of the power of symbols. Here is ours:

[dixiegrrrrl]

17. Which is why I liked this:

[Fire Walk With Me]

20. "Alan Moore knows the score." -Pop Will Eat Itself

:hi:

[white_wolf]

28. I've read some of his comic books. He's good and he's very left in real life.

He is actually an anarchist. If you like comics at all you should read V for Vendetta, very different from the movie, and his work on Batman with the character of Anarchy is also good.

[Fire Walk With Me]

32. "Very" different? I'll have to read the book as well. Thanks!

[white_wolf]

34. Its themes are different.

The movie is more of an attack on the Bush administration, whereas the book is more of a portrayal of Fascism vs Anarchism, and those ideas. I'm not saying the movies bad, but it was different and if I recall Alan Moore wasn't too happy. It shouldn't be hard to find V for Vendetta it's my local comic book store and it is a small store, but Anarchy is harder to find, I'm still trying to track down the trade. Here is a quote from Alan Moore on the movie:

(The movie) has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives — which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England.

[Fire Walk With Me]

35. Thanks, gotcha. Definitely going to have to read the book.

[white_wolf]

27. Not bad, though I think this one might be more appropriate:

[AlbertCat]

45. God! I hate that stupid movie!

Can't we find another symbol? One from a movie that doesn't suck?

How about



a symbol of intelligence and waking up.

or



a symbol of fairness and justice

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. 2 dozen, actually. Some are not in the frame.

Telling, ain't it?

[Historic NY]

25. Its bronze metal....

[October]

46. Cops protecting bull-SHIT. /nt

[quakerboy]

50. That thing is fiberglass?

I assumed it was cast metal. Even their symbol is hollow and fragile?

[Moosepoop]

53. It's bronze.

Over three tons of it.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/16/nyregion/soho-gift-to-wall-st-a-3-1-2-ton-bronze-bull.html

SoHo Gift to Wall St.: A 3 1/2-Ton Bronze Bull
By ROBERT D. McFADDEN
Published: December 16, 1989

Wall Street awoke to a gigantic bull on its doorstep yesterday - a 3 1/2-ton 16-foot-long bronze sculpture by an artist from SoHo who deposited it outside the New York Stock Exchange and declared it a Yuletide symbol of the ''strength and power of the American people.''

Hundreds of people walked around, gawked at, admired and stroked the long-horned whip-tailed bull, the image of a surging market in the lore of high finance.

But the symbolism was apparently lost on the Police Department, which said the work had no permit and was obstructing traffic at the busy intersection of Wall and Broad Streets, and even on the stock exchange, which hired a trucking company and had the humongous thing carted away.

By day's end, the Dow Jones industrial average was down 14.08 points. And while analysts spoke of obscure economic forces, the clerks and sidewalk cognoscenti on the nation's street of dreams were bemoaning the unceremonious removal of Arturo Di Modica's ''Charging Bull.''
...

[quakerboy]

55. Thanks

It was hard to believe it could look and feel so metallic, but be fiberglass.

But it would have been appropriate for the symbol of wall street to be hollow and brittle.

[Bluenorthwest]

54. The bull is bronze, and is itself the result of a non sanctioned

installation, that is the artist, Arturo Di Modica, paid for it, made it, and left it 'surprise style' under the Christmas Tree on Broad St, in front of the stock exchange. 7000 lbs of it.
NYPD removed it and took it to impound. Public outcry forced them to return it, to Bowling Green where is now sits, still not owned by the city and present under a 'temporary permit' since 1989.

[bongbong]

56. Yes

I was living in Soho in 1988. I attended a party at Di Modica's place, and saw the bull. His studio was on Crosby south of Spring.

These days it's a bull market in class warfare.

[Angry Dragon]

13. Hope they don't get bullshit on their shoes

[alittlelark]

37. Protecting the Golden Calf... wow

How symbolic.

[Fire Walk With Me]

41. :)

[Enthusiast]

60. Thugs.......nt

[ChiciB1]

3. At Least There's A LITTLE Coverage! MSM Has Ignored This For So Long! n/t

[Fire Walk With Me]

4. Kick and Recommend!

[Warren Stupidity]

5. So much for your constitutional right to peaceably assemble

Then again, we passively gave up that right a long time ago.

The people on the streets should avoid the confrontation and just keep moving around the silly policemen with their orange instant fence. Tire them out.

[chill_wind]

6. K & R. n/t

[lunatica]

7. I hope twice that number show up to replace them

May the arrest backfire on them. That would be lovely. If I were in NYC I'd show up just for the arrests.

[zazen]

8. can't some famous movie stars or musicians go down there?

they even asked about this on Alternet, didn't they?

I hate that we live in this kind of world, but if Springstein or Clooney got arrested at the protest, then we'd get headlines.

[reggie the dog]

40. teabaggers carry guns, police are afraid of people with guns

and the media loves to talk about guns

[SteveM]

61. Indeed the media loves to talk about guns...

...and are always speaking out in favor of prohibition of same. Hollywood folks usually have their own bodyguards, even those stars who are in favor of gun-control.

I doubt if teabaggers in NY are carrying; most are not in the class which do get legal guns in NY: Celebrities, wealthy, pro- sports figures, politicians (including the anti-gun Bloomberg -- plenty of armed guards), diamond trade, etc.

[Desertrose]

10. K&R

[louslobbs]

11. K&R.......What is the corporate media afraid of? Put 100 Teabaggers down there and 24hr coverage.

Lou

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Of course you know teabaggers = friends of corporations, occupywallstreet = enemies of corporations

and the media are corporate-owned. What you say is 100% true. The hypocrisy is astonishing.

[louslobbs]

19. Yes it is sometimes, but we are supposed to be fighting together against a very real enemy. The

other side loves it when we fight amongst ourselves or label each other and maybe some here do as well. We can disagree and we can have differing opinions, but to tell someone they are from FR,or intimate that their post resembles the other side, or that their post reminds them of what happened in "Nuremberg," or any of the other ridiculous indictments I have seen, is in my opinion, self defeating. Share your opinions, share your facts, share your anger, share your sadness, share your views, but let's try to remember that we are all supposed to be on the same team. I think we can do that if we really try by first and foremost, monitoring our own behavior or our own way of being rather than looking to make someone else wrong so that we can be right. There's a great cost to that behavior I have found. The best to everyone.
Lou

[Fire Walk With Me]

21. Very well-said.

:thumbsup:

[ellenfl]

30. where are the teabaggers? isn't this exactly what they purport to stand for? eom

[louslobbs]

36. You're absolutely correct, I have been asking myself this since the wall street protests began.

Where are they?
Lou

[fishbulb703]

15. If this gets buried, it will crush my little remaining hope. They're in downtown NYC!

[jwirr]

18. In the 60-70s we had something we called hazing where they drove

protesting crowns into corners and forced them to fight back. This tactic with the orange fence looked very much like that. Did the protesters change their non-violent tactics or is this once again a police action? That is started by the police.

[digitaln3rd]

22. It's not a major news story.

Just a bunch of hippies acting like fools.

[Warren Stupidity]

23. Try harder to be offensive.

[eilen]

26. I think you made a false turn. nt

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[EFerrari]

38. The New York Daily News disagrees and put them on the front page.

http://yfrog.com/nvlt9twj

Oh, and I'd take any one of those hippies over ten of you.

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[October]

47. You're post seems more foolish to me.

Your post is offensive.

[SteveM]

62. I agree. Seems the demonstrators didn't meet his personal standards. nt

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[devilgrrl]

68. No - hippies that know exactly what is going on.

Wall Street is a threat to the country.

[marions ghost]

24. K & R

:grouphug:

[Bozita]

29. One arrested protester with bad concussion, possibly life-threatening - Med help needed!

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/7468-occupy-wall-street-take-the-bull-by-the-horns


Protesters Being Held In Van Outside Precinct
By Scott Galindez, Reader Supported News
24 September 11

This report just came in a half hour ago from the chair of the NYC IWW chapter: Protesters arrested today (including the NYC IWW chair) are being locked inside a police van outside the: 1st Precinct Police Station 16 Ericsson Pl. New York, NY 10013 [phone] They've been there for over an hour. One has a very bad concussion, possibly life threatening. Right now the NYC IWW chair he is calling on us to send people NOW for help out and to demand medical care for our comrades. If you can't make it in person then please call these numbers: 1st Precinct - [phone] - 16 Ericsson Place 6th Precinct - [phone] - 233 West 10 Street NYPD Switchboard: 1-646-610-5000

[reggie the dog]

39. new york state allows people to carry concealed firearms

we need to take a cue from the tea party, the tea party understands that the cops will let you have your protest if you all show up with guns, we need to do that, i encourage everyone who can legally do so to carry firearms openly at the wall street protests, make sure your permit or whatever you need in new york is up to date and walk up and down wall street with ak 47s, m 16s and lots and lots of pistols and then see if the cops have the balls to move in and try mass arrests, how many tea party rallies have resulted in arrests so far???? that is perhaps related to all the guns they carry too isnt it?

[libmom74]

49. Good point.

[quakerboy]

57. If you have a gun you are willing to lose

go for it. I am willing to bet(though only a small amount) that they would be more than happy to confiscate guns, and your chances of retrieving your property are very low.

Tea party "rallies" dont result in arrests because they are protected, even revered by the whole power structure of our nation, not because they carry guns.

Though it would be an interesting experiment to have a highly armed liberal protest.

[SteveM]

65. Interesting idea you have...

It would be interesting to see if a highly armed liberal protest will develop. I would be open to something like that if only to break down some crappy images and stereotypes, like: Liberals are not armed, liberals are not disposed to defend themselves, liberals can be pushed around, liberals do not support the Second Amendment, that armed conservatives are the only show in town, etc.

Armed resistance as a strategy/tactic is another thing entirely, and only comes about when a large community of people feels threatened on a societal basis; i.e., things have become very extreme, life-threatening and oppressive. As a society we are no where near that, and I hope that we don't get that way.

I do not follow Gandhi's "highest level" of action when confronted with attack: To defend yourself, your family, property, religion and home by stopping the attacker without harm to the attacker, at the cost of your own life, if necessary. I do follow his "next best level" of resistance: Resist with violence to stop the attack. Gandhi considered standing by and letting the attack transpire as "cowardice," and a corruption of pacifism. MLK also drew these distinctions when considering non-violence as a strategy. He never put personal self-defense (including home, family and property) within the realm of social change. It is its own "thing."

Incidentally, King applied for a concealed-carry permit in Birmingham after his home was bombed in the mid-50s. He was denied.

[quakerboy]

66. It would be an interesting expirament

How would the media and the TPTB deal with such a thing.

Ignore it (ie #OccupyWallstreet)? Crush it(ie Libya)? Report it as a threat(recall the "new black panthers")? Convince 2 teabaggers to attend and pretend the guns and owners all belong to the right?

[SteveM]

64. Uh, NYC's "Sullivan Laws" are designed to disarm the heathen set...

They were passed in the early 19-teens on a wave of anti-immigrant hysteria (mainly Italian), modeled on old Jim Crow laws, and are "may issue" only; that is, law enforcement has the discretion to pick & choose who will have the right to keep and bear arms. And what do you know? Only the rich, celebrities, politicians, etc. get a hold of them.

I own firearms, including those for self-defense. Don't confuse that with armed rebellion. Conditions are no where near that. You are laboring under the illusion that all teabaggers are armed, and that they will come to a downtown NYC demonstration with guns.

If you are so bent on armed rebellion, you can get one illegally, show up and try out your theory yourself.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Escalation ...

[glinda]

44. Why aren't these Bankers, etc... arrested. Signs should state the obvious.

[truthwillout777]

51. will they report on it now?

The Media Will Not Cover the Wall Street Protest? Take the Protest to the Media!!
http://getsmartnews.com/news/220689

[lupinella]

58. K&R n/t

[Overseas]

63. K&R.

[jimlup]

67. It isn't a news story - it is just "the rabble" acting silly

:sarcasm:

[AzDar]

69. K & R

:kick: