The rich aren't scared that we hate them, they are scared that we don't hate each other.

[McCamy Taylor]

The rich aren’t really scared that we hate them. The wealthy worry that we may stop hating each other. Engels was right on the money when he said that the U.S. would never achieve socialism as long as employers could pit demographic groups---back then, it was different immigrant groups---one against another. Oh those filthy scab Irish, bringing down wages. Should send them back to their home country to starve. With the Germans hating the Irish hating the Blacks, the Rockefellers and Morgans and Vanderbilts had little to fear.

To hear the wealthy talk, this election season it is all about numbers. Unemployment figures. Uninsured numbers. Foreclosure rates. Infant mortality. Life expectancy. Numbers don’t lie, right? Not necessarily true. The banks are largely responsible for the scary figures we read everyday in the paper. They have staged a capital strike so small businesses can not get loans, causing jobs to vanish. They have forced folks into bad mortgages and then used fraud to get them out of their homes with all their savings gone. They begged for a bailout that they are now using as world’s biggest political slush fund.

Bankers are good at numbers. They know how to cause a Wall Street panic and how to make Main Street shiver in fear. They know how to turn that fear into fascism---they did it in Italy and Germany less than a century ago. They know how to pit one group of workers against another in order to drive down wages. White workers are told “If only you could get back ‘white privilege’ you would be sitting pretty again.” Blacks are told “Illegal aliens have stolen your jobs.” The young are told “Grandma is squandering your retirement on Ensure and Depends.”

Wanna know how to spoil the banksters fun? Follow Dr. King’s advise:

“We must live together as brothers or perish together as fools.”
MLK Jr.

How do we live together as brothers? We pursue the dreams of the civil rights movement. Equal pay for women for equal work. Equal opportunity for gays in school, employment and the military. An INS that deports criminals, not hard working immigrant workers. A Justice Department that hires lawyers with civil rights experience that can enforce the Voting Rights Act. A nation in which the disabled are treated as valued workers rather than burdens. An administration that acknowledges the right of indigenous people to their own land.

There is not a snowball's chance in hell that I will sit out the next election, nor will I consider for a moment wasting my vote on a third party splitter. As long as I can remember, the Democratic Party has stood for civil rights, and if we ever want to emerge from this manufactured recession, we need to embrace the dream once again.

[FrenchieCat]

1. Posted to my FB!

:thumbsup:

[pinto]

2. Not a snowball's chance in hell that I will sit out the next election, either.

We need this one at this time. :kick:

[Thinkingabout]

6. I live in a red state but my heart is blue

Most of all, I have yet to see a republican candidate worth
considering.  They put us in the poor house and it will take
time to get us out.  When are the multitudes going to get
smart and realize being against abortion qualify anyone to
hold office for anything.  I get really concerned so many
gives this as a reason to vote for non qualified candidates on
this issue.  

[Thinkingabout]

7. I live in a red state but my heart is blue

Most of all, I have yet to see a republican candidate worth
considering.  They put us in the poor house and it will take
time to get us out.  When are the multitudes going to get
smart and realize being against abortion qualify anyone to
hold office for anything.  I get really concerned so many
gives this as a reason to vote for non qualified candidates on
this issue.  

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. Well said, and recommended...nt

[patrice]

4. What we NEEEED are our own candidates!!! Not theirs!!

[patrice]

5. Like Elizabeth Warren, but many many more!

[truedelphi]

43. That's how I feel too.

The Democratic Party serves me well - in terms of local candidates.

On higher levels, with the one exception being the splendid and fabulousima Sen. Barb Boxer, not so much.

Part of the problem is that the Democratic voter thinks in a bit more elite way.

Even in terms of judging their own life!

While the Republicans have people running right and left for school board, for dog catcher, for city council, the average Democrat sits back and thinks, well maybe I could run, if I had finished my Master's degree.

That's a bad bit of thinking.

IF you have a passion for politics and the time, do it.

One of the few good things that came out of the George Prodgey period is this - George W showed us all how little a Master's degree really means.

[awoke_in_2003]

60. unfortunately, with the way the system is rigged...

we are given the choice between two politicians who are already bought and paid for. It costs a lot to get a federal office, and who is contributing to the campaigns?

[silverweb]

8. K&R

An absolute must read.

One of the things that stuck with me the most when I read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States was how the wealthy landowners pitted blacks and poor whites against each other because they knew they could easily be overthrown if those two groups ever formed an alliance.

It's been true in all the intervening years and it's just as true right now.

They want us to hate each other because it keeps us from working together against them.

Never doubt it, never forget it, and never fall for it.

[jwirr]

9. You are so right. Years ago when Native Americans were being

moved onto reservations they were deliberately situated so that traditional enemy tribes were placed side by side. Not to cultivate peace but to use them against each other. The same can be said regarding the Native Americans and the Buffalo Soldiers. They used newly freed black soldiers to attack the camps but again not to ensure peace but to foster hatred between the groups.

Today they are using the same tactics to drive us away from President Obama. What we need to do is remember this and come out to vote in the general election not only for the president but also the congress. No doubt I will get flamed for this but in the general election we even need to vote for a blue dog if we have to. While we may not be able to get a blue dog to vote with us most of the time they do help make us a majority in charge of the committees that get the bills to the floor and they usually allow us to pass the nominees for the SCOTUS. If we cannot get the blue dogs out in primaries then it is too late in the general election because we will end up with a rethug.

If we allow them to divide the party we will be sorry - we have so much to lose. Considering the problems we face both economically and environmentally it may even be our lives we have to lose.

[midnight]

10. Yes... Look out for eachother...

[cprise]

11. I've got news for you: We do hate each other

Researchers say that empathy is at an all-time low. It's a large chunk of what today's pop culture is about... portraying working-class / poor people as undeserving of sympathy. There's even a pop song about it: 'Where have all the good people gone...'

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/152480/what_awful_reality_tv_and_suburban_living_have_to_do_with_the_tea_party%27s_lack_of_empathy/?page=entire

Wall St.'s media corps have done a bang-up job with class warfare.

[paparush]

29. This.

The Tea Baggers have been conditioned to hate everyone.

Traditional conservative Rethugs disklike anyone who's not white, uptight, and in church every night.

Personally, I'm not too fond of either of them.

[cprise]

48. Blaming teabaggers for this stuff is ridiculous

They are a small group of idiots who are backed by big business (basically they are the John Birch Society re-branded). People have been trained by big media to interject them into every political thought and utterance. Even sources like HuffPo and Common Dreams are obsessing over them because, deep-down, they'd rather not do much positive coverage about progressive people and protests and solutions... that might divorce them from the establishment.

I don't know about you, but I live in a country where people from the far left of the Democratic spectrum will ask me for advice on saving energy and when I suggest they change a handful of lightbulbs and get a home energy audit they say they weren't looking for anything from a "radical environmentalist" that would "turn our lives upside down". I kid your not. This is the kind of person who will watch John Stewart and Rachel Maddow regularly and considers themselves well-versed in Liberal politics because they stay up to date on "Tea Party" antics.

In my eyes, most Liberal Democrats are in a love-hate relationship with the far Right, whereas their true feelings about can-do progressives range somewhere between indifference and ice... it only takes 20 seconds of hate from the least trustworthy Fox News commentator (passed on in "tsk-tsk" tones by people like Stewart) to make Democrats and swing voters doubt and distrust progressives of which they know so little. When crises come along, people will tolerate policy change from the group with which they are most familiar or emotionally engaged, even if much of that emotion is hate.

[defendandprotect]

53. Loved this -- and so true --

Even sources like HuffPo and Common Dreams are obsessing over them because, deep-down, they'd rather not do much positive coverage about progressive people and protests and solutions... that might divorce them from the establishment.

As we begin to think more about 2012 certainly those like Rachael Maddow, Thom Hartmann,

Huff -- Common Dreams -- seem to be doing just that --

In the end they all want to be on the side of power --

[dameocrat67]

12. dlc democrats do not represent working people and your memories dont

change that. I will vote for warren and dems to that do still live up to that ideal but there is not way in hell i will vote dlc/new democrats/ or blue dogs.

[Progressive dog]

50. I will vote for almost any democrat

I live in the congressional district that elected Kirsten Gillibrand. She ran on a blue dog platform in a Republican district and won. She was appointed our Senator and then elected to fill out Hillsry Clinton's term. She is now voting for and supporting progressive democratic goals. She is no longer a blue dog and probably never was.
If another blue dog is all that challenges our present teabag congressman, then I will still vote and vote democratic. I have no intention of helping to enable these fascists in any way.

[dameocrat67]

13. The third way dems are not serving working people and your memories of long ago wont

change that. I will vote for warren and dems to that do still live up to that ideal but there is not way in hell i will vote dlc/new democrats/ or blue dogs. These socalled dems are part of the process you describe, so voting for them does not make any sense. They are the dividers, not progressives. If coakly hadnt lost warren would not be running now since the dems would block her out in favor of third way milktoast coakley.

[quaker bill]

14. While they seem dim, conservatives are smart about this

They will consistently vote in large blocks for the candidate that will be with them 51 percent of the time over the candidate that will be with them only 49 percent of the time. We on the other hand will not vote for the candidate that is with us 70 percent of the time, because that is not 100 percent....

[dameocrat67]

17. not true

or mccain, bush the first and bob dole would not have lost. They sat on their hands during those elections and were rewarded with more conservative candidates. youre just spreading rationalizing myths that arent in fact true.

[defendandprotect]

54. Agree -- as we've voted for "lesser evil" over 40 years, it's moved Dem Party to the RIGHT ..!!

And if anyone is expecting anything different to happen this time around ...

well -- you all know the saying about that!

[quaker bill]

79. you are incorrect

There were not enough conservatives to elect McCain. There was no decrease in turnout. Locally, President Obama turned out 85,000 new voters, the story is the same anywhere you look. Bush I lost the independents to Perot. There was no lack of conservative turnout, this is the myth. Clinton beat Dole by winning the independents post the stupid impeachment and in strong economy. I actually work the polls and for Dem candidates here and have done so for decades.

They get more conservative candidates because they vote as a block, in every election, in large numbers, even in the primaries. This is how you get the candidates you want.

The conservative voter guides are simple, the guy that has more checks in the boxes gets their votes, every time. Every time, absolutely every time, to include local only elections, they show up at the polls by the Church bus load.

[panzerfaust]

15. If only our president supported some of these ideals

Yes Barack Hussein Obama II, We Are Looking at You

[defendandprotect]

55. +1 --

[pampango]

16. Reminds me of the joke: A CEO, a tea party member, a union worker and an immigrant are sitting

at a table when a plate with a dozen cookies arrives. Before anyone else can make a move, the CEO reaches out to rake in eleven of the cookies. When the other three look at him in surprise, the CEO locks eyes with the tea party member. "You better watch them," the executive says with a nod toward the union worker and the immigrant. "They want a piece of your cookie."

It's funny for the same reason most good jokes are funny, because it contains a strong element of truth. This little game, pitting one group of working class voters against another, isn't just a trick, it's the trick. The engine of this schism is always powered by the same forces: fear and envy. There's always someone out there to be the "other," someone whose cultural values don't line up with yours. Someone who is getting a better deal than you.

For America, the tea party movement is just an update of a very old script. You could see the same forces at work in 1843, as factionalism split the Whig Party and produced a third party movement.

What powered the movement? Most of the energy came from a source that's still highly potent today: demonization of immigrants. The wave of dangerous immigrants came from Ireland and Germany. The anti-American philosophy they propagated was Roman Catholicism.

Instead, those at the top have always found it easy to get people to champion their cause. There's always a group that feels wounded, angry and neglected. This group is susceptible to being told that they're better than some other group, that some other group is getting a better deal, that some other group deserves to be put in its place. It doesn't matter if that group is called Irish or Italian, Black or Hispanic, Union members or government workers. Anyone can be painted as a threat with enough hot air and yellow journalism. Anyone (can be the other).
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MLK: “We must live together as brothers or perish together as fools." GOP: "Not so much. Getting some folks to hate other folks keeps us in power."

Robert Reich: Republicans have a long history of turning fears into resentments that animate voters. (Remember Willy Horton? Senator Joe McCarthy?) For years, Fox News, yell radio, and other outlets of the Republican right have built followings on hatefulness.

Deep economic crises are fodder for demagogues who channel economic fear into a politics of resentment against “them.” In the 1930s it was foreign traders (mainly Europeans), immigrants, and Jews. Now it’s foreign traders (mainly the Chinese), immigrants, and Muslims.

If Democrats (or Republicans, for that matter) want to blame something, blame America’s record level of inequality – an almost unprecedented concentration of income and wealth at the top, and a smaller proportion for the vast middle. This record inequality has resulted from cutting taxes for the rich and corporations, weakening unions, and shredding the social safety net, all things that Americans have done to other Americans.

China bashing doesn’t educate the public about what’s truly at stake and what must be done in the years ahead. Worse: It reinforces the politics of resentment, and further legitimizes other forms of isolationism and xenophobia.

[Enthusiast]

27. Nice!

Thank you for your contribution.

[FredStembottom]

35. I don't see any real "China-bashing".

It's out-sourcing bashing. Out-sourced jobs used to go to Mexico, so that word was heard a lot. That labor wasn't cheap enough for the out-sourcers, so now it all goes to China. So we hear the word "China" a lot.

As the Chinese starvation-laborers try their first attempts at unionizing, the moguls will be sending their manufacturing elsewhere. I think Viet Nam is being set up for this. We will hear "Viet Nam" a lot, then.

So it never has been China-bashing.

It's multi-national exploitive labor games bashing. There's a "world" of difference.

:hi:

[Duppers]

63. Just yesterday I had to knock down

a FB friend's post claiming that China forces expecting mothers to abort baby girls!!

I've found a lot of knock-China propaganda out there.

[FredStembottom]

68. Thanks, Duppers for speaking up.

We don't need the diversion that being angry about losing jobs to outsourcing = racism or jingoism.

[Duppers]

62. bravo!

Deserves its own thread.

[madokie]

18. Very true words you speak

I'll not waste my vote either, it's dem all the way for me and has been since I was old enough to vote

[sulphurdunn]

19. You say you want to stay

in the Democratic Party and won't be involved with a third party. Good! Then either change the leadership of the Democratic Party or make them more frightened of progressive votes than they are lovers of Wall Street cash.

[saras]

37. Are you suggesting we primary Obama? How ELSE do you change the leadership?

The only way to make them more frightened of progressives than of the MIC is going to involve progressives (possibly elsewhere than America) having more and better armaments than the American military. They count and evaluate the votes - they've got no reason to fear them.

[sulphurdunn]

44. The MIC

runs on the same dollar that everything else does. The last thing it wants to do is kill the golden goose. The Pentagon will take no direct role in domestic politics. You have much more to fear from cops and politicians.

[defendandprotect]

56. Why not primary Obama? That's what the numbers are calling for -- !!

Don't get your comments about the MIC -- are you saying Obama is frightened of them

and that's why he put Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on the table and

overturned EPA regulations?

[TBF]

20. Solidarity - we must pull together.

It is the only way to fight them. I'm not talking about voting. I'm talking about working class folks sticking together.

[defendandprotect]

47. Great idea -- but which way are we "pulling" ... ??? Toward the principles and ideals of Dem Party?

Or are we bowing to the control of the Third Way?

Makes a great deal of difference --


Now, if you're suggesting that we should simply follow the Dem Party no matter where it is

going -- and no matter where Obama is taking it -- then I think that's a foolish idea.

[TBF]

65. Nope, I'm not talking about parties. nt

[999998th word]

75. We have to concentrate on the statehouses, get rid of those

republican shills. Educate people, and they are starting to find out for themselves, what a disaster this new 'regime' really is.

We still need to support POTUS, even if you don't agree, @ least it will buy us time-and we need that to get more folks to see the light.

[Overseas]

21. K&R.

[coalition_unwilling]

22. Your adopt unquestioningly the flawed premise that today's Democratic

Party has anything at all to do any longer with the interests of the working class. Numbers usually don't lie: unemployment remains above 9%, roughly 50 million Americans are either receiving food stamps, living below the poverty level or both, while 1% controls 40% of the wealth of this country and 10% control 80%.

If today's Democratic Party is such a big defender of civil rights, then why was Bradley Manning tortured while in custody before a media outcry forced this Dem administration to stop? And if today's Democratic Party really cared about civil rights, don't you think there'd be some investigations of the Bush Junta for its war crimes against the Iraqi people? Or was that only civil rights for Americans that you were covering in your OP?

[defendandprotect]

57. +1 ---

:hi: nice post!

[bvar22]

23. When the Working Class & The Poor....

When The Working Class & The Poor realize we have more in common with each other
than we have in common with the Rich Elite Class Leadership of BOTH Political Parties,
we can have "CHANGE."
Until then, the Status Quo will be protected by those who benefit in Washington & The Media.

Our neighbors in Latin America have given us the Blue Print for CHANGE.

"The worst enemy of humanity is U.S. capitalism. That is what provokes uprisings like our own, a rebellion against a system, against a neoliberal model, which is the representation of a savage capitalism. If the entire world doesn't acknowledge this reality, that nation states are not providing even minimally for health, education and nourishment, then each day the most fundamental human rights are being violated."
----Bolivian Reform President Evo Morales

FDR said much the same thing in 1944 in his Economic Bill of Rights.


Spread the Word.

VIVA Democracy!
I pray we get some here soon!


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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[Enthusiast]

28. PLUS ONE!

Thank you for your service.

[defendandprotect]

58. Agree re Capitalism -- it's over -- and it's a rotting corpse --

and we need to change the leadership which is keep it propped up -- !!

"The worst enemy of humanity is U.S. capitalism. That is what provokes uprisings like our own, a rebellion against a system, against a neoliberal model, which is the representation of a savage capitalism. If the entire world doesn't acknowledge this reality, that nation states are not providing even minimally for health, education and nourishment, then each day the most fundamental human rights are being violated."
----Bolivian Reform President Evo Morales

[LatteLibertine]

24. I hate to keep repeating myself

and the people need to demand real campaign finance reform and term limits for Congress.

We won't get it immediately and it will take some time, however the issue needs be brought up constantly and loudly. I'm certain it will never have a chance if it isn't even regularly discussed.

In order to get the media to discuss it we're going to have to be so loud they simply can't ignore us because their masters certainly won't want them covering it.

[defendandprotect]

The issue has been brought up constantly over 40 years and more -- !!!

Has Obama -- or the Democrats -- decided to NOT take corporate money?

That would be a huge first step -- !!

[defendandprotect]

59. The issue has been brought up constantly over 40 years and more -- !!!

Has Obama -- or the Democrats -- decided to NOT take corporate money?

That would be a huge first step -- !!

[totodeinhere]

25. It seems to be working. We hate each other more than ever. The cons booing the gay serviceman.

The cons cheering the death penalty in Texas. The cons cheering about the death of the uninsured man. And yes, and I'll probably get flamed for this, there is hate coming from the left directed at misguided people who for one reason of another believe the Limbaugh's of this world. And then there is the palpable hate of the rich that I read everyday on this board.

Hate coming from both sides is tearing this country apart.

[CANDO]

33. You're mis-characterizing acknowledgment as hate.

Wanting to return to 91% marginal tax rates is not hate. Pointing out that the likes of Murdoch and others pit us against each other is not hate.

[RaleighNCDUer]

36. Back to defend the poor defenseless millionaires again, I see. nt

[totodeinhere]

41. I am not defending anybody.

I'm not saying that they are defenseless. Please don't put words in my mouth. But if anyone believes that there is not palpable hate at DU directed at the rich, they are reading a different board than I am. The subject of the OP was hate and how certain interests try to get us to hate each other. My point is that it is working. There is enough hate to go around coming from both sides.

[malaise]

26. Fabulous post

Spot on- all their divide and rule propaganda is failing - people are waking up.

[newspeak]

30. the corporate media has helped in that division

why hire people like limpballs, o'llielly and beck? Instead of hiring rational, logical talking heads or even have a debate between opposites; they have allowed their corporate, radical wing nut blowhards to "catapult the propaganda."

I remember in one of my history classes discussing the robber barons pitting groups against each other. First it was the "yankees" pitted against the german immigrants, then it was the germans pitted against the irish then it was the irish pitted against the freed african americans. And those greedy arseholes would say "if you don't like the working conditions or cheaper wages, I'll get the ______________ to do it. So, instead of going after the owners, they went after those who were in the same boat. The owners have been playing this game for a long long time. It's time for the plebes to wise up to what's really going on.

[cprise]

49. "catapult the propaganda."

Indeed, and much of that catapulting comes from the more 'Liberal' end of the media which can't stop hyperventilating about "Tea Party" and leaving little room for actual progressives in the public's mind:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1999358&mesg_id=2002113

[w0nderer]

31. K & R N/T

[JackRiddler]

32. They're also scared that this system can't go on like this and anticipate upheavals.

[rucky]

34. Two concepts are beginning to crystallize here on DU & beyond:

1) There is a class war going on.
2) They are purposely dividing us so we don't fight back.

If we can get just those two points across, we may be able to get somewhere.

K&R

[Desertrose]

39. +100!!!

These are the two most important things we have to get across!! I agree!!

[defendandprotect]

71. Capitalism and the inequalities of our society historically have

have long kept us divided -- and them rich --

But it's never enough --


FDR and the New Deal and then JFK was in their way -- on and on --

We've had more than 50 years of RW political violence which still hasn't stopped --


The latest financial coup was just as engineered as the first Depression ---

amd it was also followed by fascism -


Now, Global Warming is the biggest threat to us and the expenses have been piling

up for 20 years -- maybe that caused the rush to grab pension funds?


We should be nationalizing our natural resources -- and shutting down nuclear reactors --

getting off the grid and moving to local/green energy alternatives --

And it's getting very late -- and ever more dangerous.


Capitalism is finished -- but the crooks who use it to steal are still with us --

[AlbertCat]

38. "the Rich"

Quite frankly I'm getting tired of labels like "the rich".

There are plenty of fine people... Democrats even.... who are rich.

What next?

"The rich" are shiftless and lazy?
"The rich" are born with tails?
"The rich" have funny eyes?

It is true, however, that those with lots of money have been getting a free ride tax-wise for a long time now and that has to stop. Everyone... and I mean everyone in both houses of Congress is rich y'know.
And those who are not rich but think they should be...just because... and those who think they're somehow better because of their religion or upbringing are just as bad.

It's the intellectually lazy, regardless of their income, that is the danger to this country.

[Jester Messiah]

40. Except that we DO hate each other.

At least, the Teabaggers hate us and I sure as shit return the sentiment.

[truthwillout777]

42. and this wall street protest unites us all

The Media Will Not Cover the Wall Street Protest? Take the Protest to the Media!!
http://getsmartnews.com/news/220689

[locahungaria]

45. Excellent OP.....K&R!

You are spot on with this OP as to the divide and conquer that is being, and has been used as a very effective tool by the PTB for a very long time.

This is a must read, IMO.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

46. the rich ain't scared of shit. they don't give a damn about any of it.

[randr]

51. "If it were not for religion

the poor would have eaten the rich long ago."
Can't remember the source of the quote but one of my favorites.

[defendandprotect]

52. Was applauding your message ....

until these last two paragraphs --

Indeed, this new depression is as engineered as the first one was -- but why wouldn't

Obama know that -- or the Dem Party?


How do we live together as brothers? We pursue the dreams of the civil rights movement. Equal pay for women for equal work. Equal opportunity for gays in school, employment and the military. An INS that deports criminals, not hard working immigrant workers. A Justice Department that hires lawyers with civil rights experience that can enforce the Voting Rights Act. A nation in which the disabled are treated as valued workers rather than burdens. An administration that acknowledges the right of indigenous people to their own land.

And that's a message which should be passed on to Obama and the Democratic Party --

It is after all Obama who has put Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid on the table --

And unless everyone who voted for Obama the first time around gets amnesia, I don't think

2012 is going to be what you are hoping for --


There is not a snowball's chance in hell that I will sit out the next election, nor will I consider for a moment wasting my vote on a third party splitter. As long as I can remember, the Democratic Party has stood for civil rights, and if we ever want to emerge from this manufactured recession, we need to embrace the dream once again.

I will NEVER consider voting my conscience to be wasting my vote --

On the contrary, I deeply regret having voted for Obama -- and certainly won't repeat that error.


We all have long memories of the Democratic Party and what it used to be -- but is no longer.


Yet, the public is united in its thinking --

80% want an end to the wars -- while Obama is taking us into the second decade of war! :eyes:

74% and more -- 83% of Catholics -- want government run health care -- MEDICARE FOR ALL --

Obama betrayed the public in back room deals with Big Pharma and the private H/C industry

and then Rahm "crowed" about how grateful business should be to Obama -- especially for

"preserving the private health care industry" -- !! :eyes:

As the public begins to wake up to the disaster of Global Warming and nuclear reactors --

Obama has has estopped EPA regulations -- and is attempting to involve taxpayers in subsidizing

a new round of nuclear reactors in US - !! :eyes:

And the American public strongly support Social Security -- and Medicare -- and safety nets.

And Obama? Not so much!


So it's really NOT that the public isn't united -- we are --

It's that Obama is marching to a different drummer --

[truedelphi]

77. Obama marches to the drummer of those who employ him.

The bankers and Biggest Financial Concerns, The Military Contractors, the Defense establishment, the Homeland Security industries, The Big Pharmaceutical people, and the Big Insurers, and Big Oil.

And the four or five top agriculture firms that have been using him to establish the patented GM crops that will soon be bringing us rampant famine.

[defendandprotect]

78. True --

And the four or five top agriculture firms that have been using him to establish the patented GM crops that will soon be bringing us rampant famine.

So that's how the regulations have been falling?

Agree -- this will bring disaster --


Thanks for the info -- as always --

:hi:

[truedelphi]

80. The main reason we have the GM stuff is that during Clinton's era

Clinton allowed a man named Mike Taylor to put together the "Doctrine of similarity" which states (more or less) that since GM foods are equivalent to conventionally grown foods, there is no need to spend a decade testing GM crops. So instead of anyone anywhere inside this nation testing this crapola, before it was sold for wide spread use, this "scientific doctrine" allowed The Clinton Administration to allow Monsanto to fast track its GM crops.

All the Monsanto people needed was one guy like Obama - who pretends to be for the people but is actually under the control of the Big Agro firms.

Even if by some miracle we got ourselves a resurrected FDR to head the country in 2012, the GM seed has pollinated to the extent that it infects everything out there. Even "organic" rice has at least 15% GM stuff inside it. And corn, which is the first crop to be done up GM-style - almost every bit of corn we eat if it is grown in the USA has GM contamination. (Some "organic" corn comes from China, which has kept GM stuff out of its nation. But if you buy grain from China, you need to be aware that usually their irrigation water is so tainted with heavy metals that you aren't getting "organic" in that stuff either.)

Wheat is now in a similar status as the corn and rice. With all of our veggies to follow.

In 2013, if Congress were to ban the stuff, it would be too late. You cannot return the GM pollen back into the bottle. It is ubiquitous.

[butterfly77]

61. Kick,kick,kick &recommended!

:kick:

[nashville_brook]

64. sweet! just saw this on twitter!

[JustAnotherGen]

66. Bravo!

[Lucian]

67. The Dems had complete control of everything and did nothing.

They didn't change anything. So, for the next election, should we just vote for them in hopes that they do accomplish something?

If change is to occur, we need to get rid of everyone who doesn't want to help the 99%, and that includes Dems.

[defendandprotect]

72. +1 --

[liberal N proud]

69. Good post

[hue]

70. This is so true!! Thanks for posting this!!! n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

73. k&r&bookmarked! a classic post!

I've told anyone who will listen:

Despite our differences and disagreements, the main struggle in this country isn't between Left and Right, it's between Top (1%) and Bottom (99%).

Maybe Elizabeth Warren can use that slogan when she runs for pres in 2016...

[McCamy Taylor]

74. P.S. Everything in the next to the last paragraph has been done already by Obama/Dem Congress.

I just wanted to make sure we are all clear on this point, because some of the posts above seem to imply that these are things Obama needs to address. It is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that Obama's interest in civil rights is, in some way, self serving, and that he ought to focus more on the economy. However, economic justice depends upon civil rights. Equality and mutual respect are what have allowed some countries in the world to create social systems that look out for the interests of everyone, not just the elite.

[Rex]

76. That is a big 10-4!

So true.