What if Hermain Cain wins the GOP nomination?

[IndyPragmatist]

He just won the Florida straw poll, and a lot of people are starting to support him. Unlike everyone else on the GOP ticket, Cain is a likable guy. He doesn't do the negative stuff the others do, and he is pretty clear on what he wants.

So what if he wins the GOP nomination? My former roommate, who is black, supports Obama, but always says he hates when Obama talks to black audiences. He says that Obama presents himself as "you know you will support me, so just got ahead and do it."

How well will this work against Herman Cain? A black man that was raised by black parents and experienced life much more similar to the majority of the black population than Obama. Not being black, I can't try and pretend that I know how they would feel.

Additionally, how would Cain be presented in the black community? Would they try to market him as a "real" black man because he had 2 black parents and experienced a childhood like other black people?

Any thoughts? I think it would create a pretty interesting debate.

[MH1]

1. Well I think it would be bad if he actually won, but it would be kind of cool in a way ...

to see the Republicans try to 'out-black' the current President!

:rofl:

(or am I just weird? I'm not black myself but I hate racism ... I hope no one finds my comment offensive in any way. I just would think the country had come a long way. Even if I don't like Cain's politics at all.)

[JoePhilly]

2. Cain is just as crazy as the others ... and as for how he'd be presented to

the black community .... talk to Alan Keyes about how that will go over.

[lunatica]

3. Wow! Are there now black Teabaggers? How many were there?

Or did the teabaggers we've gotten to know suddenly see the light and reject their racism?

[newspeak]

16. yes, there are some black teabaggers

Alan Keynes, Cain and Scalia have very dangerous ideologies, and I think that any policies and decisions they make will do more harm to their own. Unless, we're talking about wealth. I believe greed and wealth transcends the color of your skin. That's why Malcolm X said that there may be a revolution in the US but it wouldn't be because of skin color, it would be about class.

[SpiralHawk]

4. Where's Cain's Birf certificate? Did Abel steal it?

I mean, we need long-form documentation.

The Cain McDude has a Major Issue with the FINGER POINTING thingy.

"There is no free pizza." - H. Cain (R)

[ChazII]

5. It will be interesting to see how his candidacy plays out. n/t

[PSPS]

6. What if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow?

Cain won't win the nomination.

- Straw polls mean nothing. They're really just a beauty contest that gets won by the candidate who buses in the most supporters. Just ask Michele Bachmann, the winner of the Iowa straw poll.

- Cain has never held elected office. Such people don't win GOP or Democratic presidential nominations, only third party. And they always lose in the general election.

- He has being a "Tom" going for him, but 'baggers will never rally around a black guy.

[IndyPragmatist]

7. not holding office might be his biggest advantage

Most people in America, and especially those on the right, are tired of career politicians. If you've seen even a few minutes of the GOP debates, you know how important having private sector experience is to the voters.

I think being able to say "I've taken charge of a bankrupt company and turned it completely around, I'm ready to turn a bankrupt country around" will be a huge benefit to him.

Obama is constantly criticized by Republicans for not experiencing "real life". Obama went to fancy private schools, then works as a community organizer before becoming a public sector leech. Cain is the anti-Obama in this sense.

[ChandlerJr]

13. There ya go, Marginalize him as an Uncle Tom or a house negro

Keep on message and he wouldn't stand a chance.

That's so progressive.

*SMDH*

[Champion Jack]

8. What if? ...

When faced with the choice between two black guys, the teabaggers will sit the election out in droves

[the other one]

9. A straw poll is one thing...

GOPhers don't actually VOTE for blacks.

Dead last in every primary.

[Bucky]

10. Then my colon would be finally free of those flying monkeys

The point about Herman Cain is not that he's a black man. He's a rich man who ran a very successful business and doesn't understand jack shit about how government works. I judge him by the content of his lack of character.

[Motown_Johnny]

11. Then we have a shot at winning the south

since many GOPers won't vote for him no matter what. The money would also be cut short.

No person of color is going to be presented as a "real" anything while spouting conservative talking points.


It would be an Obama landslide IMO.

[Ohio Joe]

12. The racist repugs will never give the nod to a black man - nt

[Doc Holliday]

14. I think it's a moot question because...?

I just cannot see today's GOP putting a black man at the top of the ticket.

Besides, a lot of the Cain "landslide" noise is nothing more than neo-Pavlovian salivation at a potential new GOP Flavor of the Week.

Talk about thin gruel. A straw poll you have to pay to participate in...about a field of five candidates, none of whom are from Florida....fourteen months out from the general election. Only one of these candidates did any serious advance work in Florida....the guy who got the 37% landslide. Why all the surprise? He got out, stirred around and made his presence known, and shook some hands. It's called campaigning.

One pundit (granted, he's a little crazy and not even really a pundit-- just a failed political candidate with a blog) even postulates a possible Cain/Rubio ticket in 2012.

How many "mainstream" Republicans would hold their noses and vote for that ticket? How many Teabaggers?

[begin_within]

15. Godfather's Pizza for everyone!

[Leopolds Ghost]

19. YAY!

[OneGrassRoot]

17. He is a self-hating black man...

When the ignorant videos he supported in the past come out, the black community will be unlikely to support him, imho.

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/herman-cains-reason-vote-gop-i-dont-0

[tritsofme]

18. See Alan Keyes. 2004. nt

[Old and In the Way]

20. Were Cain to win, I think there'd be an indie movement to run a white version.

It's great that Cain's showing some unexpected strength because it complicates the Republican media narrative....but ultimately, I think he'll be a divisive figure for the teabagger party. A sizable % of this part of the Party wouldn't vote for Cain or will find someone else to throw their support behind. And when Cain gets his national exposure, we'll see just how he can handle the pressure. Having no real political experience might be liability as surely as it could be an asset. A few gaffes and he'd be toast.

[Ikonoklast]

21. Palin would swoop in on a third-party ticket, and con millions out of billions.

Then fly home on her private jet after it's all over, laughing maniacally at how good the con worked yet once again.

But the chances of Cain getting the Republican nod for president are the same as mine...nonexistent.

[blkmusclmachine]

22. Why not Obama/Cain for 2012?

That'd be some REAL "bi-partisanshit." :-)