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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 11:48 PM
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Truth from eighty years ago, or why our leaders are a collection of putzes
Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 12:26 AM by jpgray
To be thoroughly outclassed in vision, leadership, humanity and depth of purpose by the widely documented ghosts of the last great depression should shame every leader we have, from both parties and from all businesses.

It is utterly impossible, as this country has demonstrated again and again, for the rich to save as much as they have been trying to save, and save anything that is worth saving. They can save idle factories and useless railroad coaches; they can save empty office buildings and closed banks; they can save paper evidences of foreign loans; but as a class they can not save anything that is worth saving, above and beyond the amount that is made profitable by the increase of consumer buying. It is for the interests of the well to do – to protect them from the results of their own folly – that we should take from them a sufficient amount of their surplus to enable consumers to consume and business to operate at a profit. This is not “soaking the rich”; it is saving the rich. Incidentally, it is the only way to assure them the serenity and security which they do not have at the present moment.


Quote is a citation from Marriner Eccles in his testimony to the Committee on Economic Problems in '33.

http://londonbanker.blogspot.com/2011/09/testimony-of-marriner-eccles-to.html

Another choice one from Eccles:

As mass production has to be accompanied by mass consumption, mass consumption, in turn, implies a distribution of wealth — not of existing wealth, but of wealth as it is currently produced — to provide men with buying power equal to the amount of goods and services offered by the nation's economic machinery.

Instead of achieving that kind of distribution, a giant suction pump had by 1929-30 drawn into a few hands an increasing portion of currently produced wealth. This served them as capital accumulations. But by taking purchasing power out of the hands of mass consumers, the savers denied to themselves the kind of effective demand for their products that would justify a reinvestment of their capital accumulations in new plants. In consequence, as in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing. When their credit ran out, the game stopped.

That is what happened to us in the twenties. We sustained high levels of employment in that period with the aid of an exceptional expansion of debt outside of the banking system. This debt was provided by the large growth of business savings as well as savings by individuals, particularly in the upper-income groups where taxes were relatively low. Private debt outside of the banking system increased about fifty per cent. This debt, which was at high interest rates, largely took the form of mortgage debt on housing, office, and hotel structures, consumer installment debt, brokers' loans, and foreign debt. The stimulation to spending by debt-creation of this sort was short-lived and could not be counted on to sustain high levels of employment for long periods of time. Had there been a better distribution of the current income from the national product — in other words, had there been less savings by business and the higher-income groups and more income in the lower groups — we should have had far greater stability in our economy. Had the six billion dollars, for instance, that were loaned by corporations and wealthy individuals for stock-market speculation been distributed to the public as lower prices or higher wages and with less profits to the corporations and the well-to-do, it would have prevented or greatly moderated the economic collapse that began at the end of 1929.


http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/weekend-parallels-the-great-depression/2589
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 11:54 PM
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1. Recommend
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johnd83 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:16 AM
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2. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it...
and repeat it we shall
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:20 AM
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3. repeat it they are actually doing, and they know the history very well nt
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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 06:55 AM
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4. It's the nature of capitalism
That unrestricted greed produces the same result every time shouldn't come as a surprise.
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