Anonymous outs Mace Cop. I stand with Anonymous.

[Warren Stupidity]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20111813-83/anonymous-publishes-data-of-alleged-pepper-spray-cop/

As we watched your officers kettle innocent women, we observed you barberically (sic) pepper spray wildly into the group of kettled women. We were shocked and disgusted by your behavior. You know who the innocent women were, now they will have the chance to know who you are. Before you commit atrocities against innocent people, think twice. WE ARE WATCHING!!! Expect Us!"

Even with the egregious spelling error, I support anonymous and their action in retaliation for the attack on protestors this weekend.

Here: http://anoncentral.tumblr.com/post/10690792721/attention-occupywallstreet-badcop-d0x-target

[midnight]

1. K&R

[meow mix]

2. k&r

:nuke:

[Electric Monk]

3. Perhaps they meant "to pepper spray wildly" as a barber would? jk, k&r, nt

[coalition_unwilling]

5. Perhaps they meant "to pepper spray operatically" as Samuel

Barber would? :)

[Fire Walk With Me]

7. I prefer to see it as a reference to Sweeney Todd.

[coalition_unwilling]

42. Or perhaps "The Barber of Seville"? - :)

[Fire Walk With Me]

48. :)

[Desertrose]

4. K&R

[Zorra]

6. Aren't most of us Anonymous here?

;-)

[digitaln3rd]

8. Good to know that Anonymous is still being over dramatic.

.. about everything.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. interesting sentiment.

What did you do about the attack on protesters this weekend?

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[rpannier]

76. Probably the guy from the photograph

or he was cheering wildly when he saw it.

[cleanhippie]

120. +1

[piratefish08]

14. pesky, complaining mace victims need to STFU!

damn whiners, huh?

[rhett o rick]

18. They only have themselves to blame.

jk

[piratefish08]

23. bring a plastic mask to a mace fight and I guess you get what you deserve.

or so say many...........

[Veilex]

129. This wasnt mace...

As someone who works security in a quasi law enforcement role, I can tell you pepper spray is far worse than mace.
If you've never experienced pepper spray before, I would say your very lucky.
For me, its the most pain I've ever experienced/endured... and as a former US Army Infantryman, I've endured quite a bit.
There was absolutely no cause for the officer in question to us pepper spray and was blatantly not following his force continuum.
There are entirely too many Peace officers who abuse the authority they've been vested. The good ones usually end up paying for what the
bad ones do.

[rhett o rick]

17. Just whose side are you on? nm

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[Lydia Leftcoast]

19. I've seen people be pepper sprayed

I'm too nice to wish it on you.

[sabrina 1]

68. Lol, ask HBGary what he thinks of them.

When the authorities conduct operations as HBGary was doing, to suppress those who tell the truth and set out to destroy them, it is good to know that the people have someone on their side.

[Matariki]

75. lol. that seems about right. n/t

[laylah]

72. What an ill-informed, ignorant,

anti-freedom of speech fool you appear to be.

[Leftist Agitator]

88. U mad?

Yeah, u mad.

[City Lights]

108. Oh the drama!

...and the Oscar goes to...

[stockholmer]

144. go play psy-op games elsewhere, we arent buying your claptrap

[Ignis]

160. +1

[Fire Walk With Me]

10. Your cnet link was cut off, here is a shortcut. Thanks for posting!

http://tinyurl.com/42u856g

[sufrommich]

11. Are abortion doctors next? It's amazing what people will

justify when it's "our side" doing it.

[ellisonz]

13. This man is an employee of the public and will probably never be held accountable.

The photograph is a matter of public record.

Releasing the names of his family members is going too far.

[saras]

22. You seem to have faith in the legitimacy of the system supporting him that the rest of us don't.

[ellisonz]

31. I just don't think dragging his kids/family into it is appropriate.

There are several comments on the second link agreeing with me that they should be named. I'm not defending him. I'm questioning the necessity of taking that particular step. Also I wouldn't presume to speak for "the rest of us"

[starroute]

26. Family member lists are available at many websites

Publicizing it in such a visible manner might be questionable -- but it's not information that was gotten by hacking and then "released."

[ellisonz]

32. Then why draw attention to it.

I would have been fine knowing that he's been named and pushing for accountability. What's the point in trying to terrorize people who weren't involved. I want to know the names of his subordinates and superiors - not his brother and mother. :eyes:

[tpsbmam]

36. Thank you -- I'm glad to see I'm not the only DUer who

sees how wrong that tactic is. I'm disgusted at how many are accepting of it.

[ellisonz]

63. You're welcome.

A portion of people here seem to think we basically live in end times and that this is some cosmic battle in which the very virtues that have made this country great are expendable. Families ought to be off limits and especially children. It was wrong when the right did it to Chelsea Clinton and it is wrong now. Some things are yet sacred.

[ZombieHorde]

131. When was this country great? nt

[ellisonz]

169. Are you kidding? n/t

Here, have some reading:

10 Great Things About America That Drive Conservatives and the Religious Right Insane
Religious Right groups and their allies in the Tea Party claim to respect American values, but much would change if they had their way.
May 15, 2011

Religious Right groups and their frequent allies in the Tea Party talk a good line about respecting American values, but much would change if they had their way. They seek not to restore our country to some Golden Age (that never existed anyway) but to recreate it – in their own fundamentalist image.

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/150946/10_great_things_about_america_that_drive_conservatives_and_the_religious_right_insane

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[TheKentuckian]

161. That might get some of the cops to have a first thought about their behavior

if they know that blowback can reach their homes even if the system refuses to hold them accountable.

Bullies respond to fear, they are cowards at the core.

You move obstacles by the levers available not those OK's by the obstacle. The blue wall must be penetrated, who better to get someone in line than themselves? Who responds better to such pressures than the authoritarian mentality?

[Carolina]

163. excellent point, The Kentuckian

eom

[ellisonz]

168. So we're bullies now?

Some progressives and liberals we are.

There's a reason we have courts and federal law enforcement.

[TheKentuckian]

178. No, the cops are the bullies and bullies must be dealt with directly.

Aren't you the very person that stated that the system would not hold this punk ass accountable.

It is hard to depend on a system known to be broken. Strike that, it is goofy to depend wholly on a system known to be broken.

[Ignis]

20. Analogy fail.

If you're talking about outing a doctor who ran up to a woman, knocked her down, and performed an abortion without her consent, then maybe you're getting closer.

:eyes:

[Cherchez la Femme]

49. +7

[Doremus]

93. Word. nt

[sufrommich]

112. It has nothing to do with the difference between a doctor

and a policeman and everything to do with a public cry for mob justice. Sorry, it's wrong no matter who does it.

[Ignis]

157. Aaaaaand a comprehension fail. You're on a roll.

[NashVegas]

81. Beg Your Pardon, But That's Been Happening for 20 Years Already

[sufrommich]

113. Gosh, really? nt

[Jester Messiah]

111. Well, you just sit on your hands and do nothing then.

No stains on your lilly-white soul.

[nichomachus]

153. Apples and oranges

[Warpy]

12. I expected him to be outed pretty quickly

even though the video I saw was of poor quality. You know there had to be better ones before and after the assault.

Anonymous just did it efficiently, although it looks like there's TMI out there, information that likely belongs to other people.

Good work, Anonymous. Now the women know who to sue. He's already faced one civil rights suit, what's a few more?

[lunatica]

15. I promise I'll behave in public from now on

It would scare the shit out of me if Anonymous outed me.

Well, I should say I'll continue to behave in public from now on.

[tpsbmam]

16. I'm appalled that they're providing family information & possible home addresses

I most certainly support anonymous but I do NOT support that! No, I do NOT stand with anonymous in this instance.

[Ignis]

21. More or less appalled than when you saw the macing video?

:shrug:

[Dragonfli]

28. "enhanced" law enforcement like "enhanced" interrogation is quietly sanctioned by many

Some people see it as putting "the other" in their place, not long before the creeping fascism leaves the closet and is applauded in public by the GOOD citizens of this country.

[tpsbmam]

35. I don't approve the "enhanced" tactics AT ALL.

You seriously have your head firmly buried up your ass if you think so. That STILL doesn't make it okay to put his family in harm's way. Jesus, I'm amazed at the people here who are appalled when the same tactics are taken by conservatives but who don't see the wrong when it's done by the left.

:wtf:

[Dragonfli]

41. Your concern for him was duly noted, I honestly don't know what you think, just pointing out a

rather disgusting general trend.

[louslobbs]

59. So is it ok if people are appalled by your "tactic" of suggesting that those who don't share your

viewpoint here on DU, of "seriously having their heads firmly buried up their asses?".........or did you specifically reserve that "tactic" for DU member Dragonfli? So where do we draw the line according to you, of what is considered "brutish" behavior? Some people think it's "pathetic and uncalled for," for someone to suggest that someone else has their "head firmly buried up their ass" on a discussion board." Who gets to determine what behavior is right or wrong, you? And your "tactic" of suggesting that Dragonfli has her head up her ass if she suggests something about you, that you, disagree with or are offended by , should that be a tactic we also condemn?
Lou

[NutmegYankee]

94. Frankly at this point

I have doubts that this man is a conservative or liberal. Having watched that video of him brutally assaulting those women, I have doubts that he is human.

[Ignis]

159. And not-so-quietly by others.

While I'm not surprised to find that many Americans tend towards "Daddy Knows Best" authoritarianism, I'm always dismayed to hear it from the Left.

[Dragonfli]

165. Ain't that the truth brother /nt

[Ignis]

185. Gotta hang in there.

:fistbump:

[Dragonfli]

186. .

:fistbump:

[tpsbmam]

29. One has nothing to do with the other.

They give home addresses and the guy's family names.....we could be talking CHILDREN here! And you're okay with that???? Seriously? WTF makes that okay?

Of course I'm not okay with him macing innocent protestors! Go after him professionally.....give his work address, his work contact info, prosecute him for assault, go after him with everything we've got (within legal bounds.....becoming violent assholes to get this violent asshole is also way out of line).

But do NOT involve his family, for god's sake. That's pathetic and uncalled for. It's behavior as brutish and despicable as his behavior. We've all seen what kind of behavior has been directed at (e.g.) abortion doctors or civil rights advocates when home and family information has been disseminated. So what makes it okay when our side does it?

[kenfrequed]

143. Do you even know what the difference is here?

There are drastic differences in what happens to outed Abortion doctors and what happens to brutal cops that go after protestors.

Abortion doctors get assassinated.

The cops frequently get ignored. I seriously doubt anything will happen to the cops kids. Particularly if it is left to the leftist protesters who are habitually non-violent to a fault. Find for me a situation where a bunch of left wing kids hunted down a cop and took some kind of grisly revenge and then we can compare the situations.

[Ignis]

158. "And you're okay with that????"

I must have missed my hearty support for that initiative. Mind providing the quote where I did so?

[seabeyond]

122. why do people argue in this manner? can you not oppose both, equally and be consistent

rahter than an hypocrite?

like my kids getting in trouble saying, ... but he...

[Dragonfli]

24. Perhaps his family should know what a sadistic bastard he is, I wonder if

he maces his children when they talk back (that was all the girls did was to talk).
If my father was a sadist I would want to know, actually he was, so I wish someone would have told my mother about him before what happened to my sister. Keeping the secrets of people like that from their families is not as good for the families as you appear to think.

[tpsbmam]

33. Oh bullshit.

You don't think his family will hear about his behavior? You don't think they'll get flack at school?

It isn't okay when the conservative whackadoodles do it to people on the left and it isn't okay to do it to this man's family. Just because it's being done by "our side" does NOT make it right.

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[tpsbmam]

45. Oh, so it's okay to harass a 7-year-old (e.g.) because her father is a POS

My, doesn't that make you a fine human being. NOT!

[Dragonfli]

46. No one has threatened to harass her, where did you get THAT information? /nt

[tpsbmam]

50. No, it hasn't happened. Have you seen what's happened to others when this kind of info has been

disseminated? I have and I suspect most on DU have read about instances where that kind of information has been given out and family members have been on the receiving end of really ugly behavior and, sometimes, destructive and even violent behavior. IT'S NOT OKAY to give out that kind of information! Stick to the professional information and leave the family out of it!

[Dragonfli]

52. It could also (more likely) allow people to believe his children when they speak of what he does to

them.
I have been on the receiving end of "protection from truth" and you are talking about something you do not understand.

[tpsbmam]

55. I have been on the receiving end of abuse heaped on me due to people who thought Dad was an asshole

and believe me, it was a kind of hell I don't wish on any kid. You're speaking of something YOU know nothing about.

[Dragonfli]

58. So then your major complaint is that the secret was not kept, people should not know, that will

work I suppose for you, but keeping the secret of asshole behavior although a favorite pastime of my mom's usually just makes the asshole feel justified in even worse behavior.

The only answer is to keep the officers identity a secret, then no one will think he is an asshole like they thought your father was right?

I guess I finally have to agree with you, keep the secrets and let the force take care of it internally, no one else should know about a families dirty laundry. You are a genius.

[tpsbmam]

65. You are purposely ignoring what I've said about going after this asshole.

So I'm done with you -- have an HONEST argument and I"ll continue but yours is TOTALLY dishonest at this point......TOTALLY!!!! Fucking read what I said about going after him and leave his fucking family alone.

I'm done until you're prepared to be honest.

[Sal Minella]

109. "Our side" is not out there torturing innocent people with mace --

a point to remember, here.

[coalition_unwilling]

38. He probably uses a belt or board on his children and saves the

Mace for work.

[Dragonfli]

51. Sadists like him ALWAYS take it home, if not mace then some other form of abuse

What those that wish to "protect the family from the truth" do not realize is that sometimes you have to hear it from your peers that what they do is wrong, also they will now have an oportunity to realise his harsh treatment of them is not OK and there will now be people to support them.

I never had that and had to leave home very young instead, no one knew, no one asked, and if I told, people didn't believe me.

It is not the sort of behavior that can be Departmentalized to just work, oft times it is even worse at home, the abuser's "castle".

[coalition_unwilling]

101. Your use of the term 'sadist' is very a propos, I think. I was struck by the

seemingly unprovoked quality of the episode. There was no pressing need for the police officer to mace the woman -- he was in no imminent danger. So one must then ask the unpleasant but all-too-necessary question of "why?" My guess is that the protester reminded him of a person in his personal life, perhaps a woman, with whom he has or has had control issues and this was his way of putting that woman from his past in her place, i.e., using the protester as a proxy for his anger and an object upon whom to project his hatred.

Glad you were able to "escape" your situation, although I suspect you never really escape.

[LanternWaste]

126. I also imagine that the sins visited upon the father would necessarily be visited upon the children.

I also imagine that the sins (or retribution, or justice, or whatever rationalization allows us to feel better about possible violence) visited upon the father would necessarily be visited upon the children.

Very Old-Testament retribution which denies the innocence of the children. I imagine there is far more often than not, many more side to a coin than merely two. And there are many unforeseen and unintended consequences to what we ourselves may feel to be just.

I don't pretend to have the depth of wisdom to know either way-- but as there as so many who do pretend to have that absolute knowledge, it matters little.

[Pamela Troy]

119. Yeah, yeah, keep telling yourselves that.

Then you can pretend that opening up his family for harassment is a GOOD thing.

This is so goddamned depressing.

[cwydro]

135. Sadly, the venom spewed here on DU

no longer surprises me.

Children are fair game for most of DU nowadays.

I hope the mods get to work on all the name-calling in that thread against posters who dare speak against the usual groupthink.

[kenfrequed]

145. I find it amazing

That we have managed to turn a story about a cops absurdly abusive behavoir into a story about the simmest possibility of the cops children being mocked in school somehow.

I really can't imagine hippie protesters going after children. If you can, then EHH...sorry, you are very imaginative and on the wrong board. I can't imagine students at school lookingup something like this and taunting a cops kids based on something on a democratic board or something that a bunch of hackers managed to get out. Lets see... no, kids are usually kind of disinterested in that sort of thing and those that are interested tend to be clever enough to differentiate between the sins of the father and the child.

No, this is manufactured BS. It is concern trolling gone amuck. It is people that never liked 'Anonymous' in the first place looking for a reason to be outraged.

Those teenagers and young adults getting hosed with pepper spray for no reason were someones daughters and sons as well. Remember That!

[Pamela Troy]

150. Yes, yes. I've also heard people saying that they just can't imagine...

Christian pro-lifers "going after children."

If you can't imagine people on "our" side of the political divide doing stupid and horrible things, then you aren't just "unimaginative." You are stunningly naive.

[kenfrequed]

154. Give me an example

False equivalency BS. I could be imaginative enough to envision pink and purple dragons too... but refusing to accept them does not make me naive, it means I truck in the realm of facts.

Give me an example of a liberal hit squad in the last 30 years or dry up.

[Pamela Troy]

171. I'm not sure what you mean by "hit squad" here.

I can only say there are a lot of weird, unstable, and violent people in this world, and I would not rule out some of them being liberals.

Especially after reading some of the crap I've encountered here at DU.

[kenfrequed]

177. weird and unstable?

Ok, your stated fear is obviously left wing violence against this cop and you seem to use fear rhetoric like bush justifying the war in Iraq. No facts. No history. No actual threat. Just some vague potential fear argument.

Its BS. But at least you hung out long enough to make it manifestly evident.

[Pamela Troy]

179. You've not read some of the kookier comments here on DU?

Like the person who's advocated taking the cops children away if he has young kids?

[kenfrequed]

182. Uhm

Again. Absurd. You obviously aren't dealing in reality here. You are looking for the wildest little bits and projecting them not just as an indictment of this board but as an intention of liberals an progressives in general.

Please, go sell crazy somewhere else.

[notadmblnd]

152. +1000

One thing did notice in the video, is that this is a middle aged man. Probably mid-late 50's. I would imagine his kids are grown and know very well what their father is. That is, if he even has children.

Hell, I could write an entire novel based on what people have come up with here. Children tortured by bullies, beaten wife, murdered pets. The main character, a left wing religious nut (never-mind that one does not exist, it's my story and I can make up anything I want) gets a message from gawd. Chaos ensues and eventually every individual on the planet is affected by the actions Anonymous took.

[Pamela Troy]

118. Wow. That's one hell of an assumption.

Is that how you make yourself feel better about the fact that his kids are now quite likely to get harassed?

[coalition_unwilling]

156. Those kids should be removed from the home for their own safety and

well-being. At a bare minimum, an intensive investigation of the father should be undertaken by state DFSS.

The point is that a sadist in public is almost certainly even more of a sadist in private. Or did that not come through in the discussion?

On edit: After posting, I recalled that Bologna's 3 children are all adults now. So DFSS removing them from the household is a 'moot point' although I would keep any grandkids away from this douche. But it's likewise unclear to me exactly how his 3 adult children will be harassed.

[Pamela Troy]

172. So you just take his presumed abuse of his children as an article of faith.

I hope to God you are in no position to determine who decide any child custody case.

[coalition_unwilling]

174. Did you bother to read what I wrote or are you simply replying out of reflex? I

wrote that his children are adults now and out of the house, so there is no need for DFSS to investigate or intervene.

But it's not 'faith' that someone who manifests an act of sadistic cruelty in public has probably manifested far worse in private, out of the public scrutiny. Are you suggesting that logic is flawed?

[Pamela Troy]

180. But if he had minor children, you'd advocate removing them.

Yes, I read what you said.

It's insane and inhumane. You haven't the foggiest idea what kind of father this man is or was.

[coalition_unwilling]

183. Well, we're starting to get an idea, now aren't we? DUer EFerrari has posted a

video of this same sadist macing a second protester without cause THE SAME DAY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJPnzr37bU

No doubt you'll now nominate Bologna for Father (and Grandfather?) of the Year.

[Dragonfli]

166. It is only "assumption" to those that don't have to live it, being secure in a normal family is a

treasure you do not realize you have.

In reality many have to live with sadists like this. Leave the shelter you grew up in and learn if you can.....

[Pamela Troy]

173. You haven't the foggiest idea whether this man

is an abusive parent or not.

[Dragonfli]

176. I think it highly likely that his sadism extends beyond his job, It takes a certain type of

person to commit cruelty for the sake of committing it and those types of individuals don't stop being what they are once they get home.

I can only assume you have never lived in the same house as a sadistic abuser, hence the strange belief that he does a 180 once he leaves work, a scenario I find much more unlikely is your DR Jeckle MR Hyde split personality theory, I believe it makes for better novels but are seldom found in reality.

It's simple - a nasty abusive prick at work is just as nasty at home.

[Pamela Troy]

181. No, I've not lived in the same house with a "sadistic abuser."

I have, however, seen riots and even been in what came very close to a riot, and I know that people behave in those situations in ways they would not behave at home. I've seen little evidence to suggest that someone who's abusive in a crowd situation is so sure to be abusive at home that it would warrant descending on the family, taking the kids away, and feeding them into the meat grinder that is our foster care system.

These calls to take his kids away if he had minor children read less like concern for the children than sheer vindictiveness.

[Dragonfli]

184. Pretty big fail you have there. he was not caught in the "fog of crowd battle" he walked up to the

most defenseless people he could find (behind a fence I might add) for just the purpose of spraying them and walking calmly away.
Your apologetics have allowed me to glean who's side you are on, and it isn't mine.

I might add he is facing a law suit for the very same behavior committed in the past.
Your arguments are too weak to be sincere, do you just excuse him because of the badge? You know what, don't even bother to answer, this sadist makes cops look bad so you are not doing them any favors defending him. Also I don't much care what you have deluded yourself into thinking, it's time for all of us to decide who's side we are on, you appear to have chosen the opposite of me so we have nothing to talk about.

[Warren Stupidity]

37. So you think police brutality should be veiled with anonymity?

I don't.

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[louslobbs]

61. Wow! I'm just loving your tactic of trying to bully people into agreeing with you lol, how's that

going for you? lol.........So now Warren's last name fits? I believe Warren posed a question which could have been answered with a yes or no, but your tirade in response, shows that your debating and conversational skills are seriously lacking. Do you really expect anyone to actually want to "hear" what you have to say while you're yelling and screaming and calling people names? Check yourself before you try to lecture others about their opinions or their behaviors. Right now you're pretty much looking like you might have your head "firmly planted up your own ass." Deep breaths..........slow deep breaths.........there you go........now, what were you trying to say?

Lou

[Warren Stupidity]

92. he is the first OP in my last 10,000 posts to attack me in this way

I am devastated. I actually think he has a fair point regarding leaving the family out, anonymous could have done that, and perhaps should have. Of course as he went into attack mode and went all potty-mouth over my stupid ass, I ain't going to respond to him.

Officer Bologna has been punished. Until this punishment was inflicted on him, he was not going to get punished on any level at all. There wasn't going to be an investigation, charges were not going to be filed. His buddies undoubtedly congratulated him for his courageous assault. In the unlikely event that an internal investigation was conducted, the Blue Wall would go up. Same with any attempt to press criminal charges of assault.

So I'll take what the anarchists from anonymous did, and accept it. I stand with anonymous.

[The Wizard]

116. It was an assault with prejudice

and intent to injure. Hiding behind a badge doesn't make it legal, just difficult to prosecute. With his personal info now easily accessible, perhaps he and other police thugs will give a second thought before breaking the law. The threat of summary justice sometimes is the only deterrent.

[louslobbs]

142. Here here! +1

Lou

[Carolina]

164. Touche! K&R

[louslobbs]

141. And I stand with anonymous and you.

Lou

[Lizzie Poppet]

44. I'm not.

Yeah, it's harsh...but without actions like this, assholes like Bologna would never be called to account. The fact is, a few high-profile cases aside, the police don't do shit to police their own. Never have. Expecting "the system" to redress things like that is naive.

[tpsbmam]

47. I agree.....more than agree......not only call him to account, make an example of him

go after him with EVERYTHING......try and legally fry his ass so that he pays for his actions. Charge him with assault. He should have multiple complaints against him (I'm one who DID call about him.....I called someone I know in the Mayor's office). GET THE FUCKER!!!

But DON'T GO AFTER HIS FAMILY! DON'T GIVE OUT HIS HOME ADDRESS AND HIS CHILDREN'S INFORMATION!

That is NOT okay!

[druidity33]

62. Anon isn't a teaparty organization...

they didn't name Family members because they wanted someone to knock them off.

As a commenter on the Anon website notes:
"we all know that this "cop" (i use the term loosely), doesn't give a damn about our opinions, but when his family members are shunned by decent people due to their relation to this guy... maybe then he'll think twice about how hes going to treat everyone else."

Or, maybe his wife can talk some sense into him. Maybe she doesn't know how he behaves at work. Maybe his 2 grown daughters or his son can persuade him to be a stand up guy. I already knew that he's 57 and has 3 adult children because i read a link this morning when he was named:
http://www.thevillager.com/villager_113/afteryearsoftrouble.html
You should know as well that the link i followed was not from the Anon website. It was from here:
https://occupywallst.org/

where they state:

"Late last night we found out which white collar officer had maced our innocent protesters. We did not release this information as we had not yet come to a consensus on how to approach the situation. Earlier today we discovered that this information had already been released."


If i thought there was a guy on "our" side who had rifles and stockpiles of ammo and was out to get the "Right wing" cronies, i wouldn't condone this. But this cop appears to be a Sadist. There are multiple videos of him brutalizing protesters. The family member's names didn't list age, address, relationship or anything other than that they are related to Cpt Bologna.

And realize that Anonymous is a decentralized group. A statement by one person could very easily get attributed to the whole.


Just my 2 pennies...

:)

[ellisonz]

67. So it's wrong when the Right does it but okay when the Left does?

Oh brother. :banghead:

Go after him professionally, not personally.

[druidity33]

73. they're not equivocal. nt.

[ellisonz]

79. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism#Polemics

[druidity33]

83. Bah!

If this were a court case, intent would be an issue.

[ellisonz]

85. Courts are an abstraction. This is real life.

Kafkaesque:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial

[druidity33]

87. Yeah, Kafkaesque...

kinda like being imprisoned indefinitely, tortured, held without representation, prohibited from visitors. Or maybe Kafka would have written about the ability of our Pres to Assassinate anyone, anywhere, for a secret reason, without a trial or opportunity to defend themselves.



What i'm talking about is the difference between a violent group of people that release someone's name and address and place of employment and phone # and email address and say to their group "go get 'em" and a group of people protesting a brutal incident in which they are unlikely to ever see a drop of justice reprinting limited personal information that was already publicly available. Without including identifying characteristics like relation, address, job, etc. and without any call to arms whatsoever.

Like i said. Unequivocal.

[ellisonz]

90. You're entitled to your opinion.

Just don't insist that the rest of us must believe the same thing. We are all human.

[druidity33]

91. I didn't insist.

I even specifically stated "just my 2 pennies"... so we can continue to argue, but i suspect we'll also continue to disagree. So, shall we shake and say, "friends"?

:)

Good night to you...

[kenfrequed]

148. As are you

But you are not entitled to your own facts.

If you can find an example of the left using this to target individuals in this manner, in America, in the last thirty years than maybe... maybe you may have a case.

Otherwise this is just another false equivalency argument. And trying to prop it up with Kafkha is the height of irony (if not a blatant misunderstanding of the literature in question.)

[Pamela Troy]

123. "It's different when WE do it!

The rationale always offered by everyone from killers, to torturers to poison pen writers, to the kind of people who call in threatening messages, to the kind of people who expose the children of those they dislike to harassment.

No it's not "different."

And no, you're not "different" either.

[kenfrequed]

146. A curious example really

As The Trial is about secret police and secret procedings and an acceptance of a form of law enforcement that does whatever it wills. If that was your intent I can understand it as a critique of law enforcement. Otherwise it makes no sense.

[DontTreadOnMe]

86. who care if you are appalled

go back to your couch and sit out the war.

[Pamela Troy]

124. Funny. I've seen the same kind of reaction

from anti-abortionists who wonder why everyone makes a fuss when they target the children of clinic doctors or anyone they perceive as an abortionist.

So you imagine yourself as a mighty "warrior" do you?

[tama]

25. And mass media reports

that Anonymous outed that inspector... gotta admire the narrative and media interest they've created. Style.

And the funny thing, saw it first on DU, yesterday. No mention of Anonymous, just picture of the badge with a face. I guess that makes DU part of Anonymous, kinda. Of course he was outed from the very beginning, those guys with cameras covering this for citizen media are alert and efficient.

[DLnyc]

27. have to say I'm curious, what sort of guy has 17 addresses.

Walking up, macing those women, then scurrying off. Once of the most cowardly things I've ever seen.

The man needs to be seriously investigated as a danger to the public. Quite possibly he's headed for worse crimes if he's not removed from the police force immediately.

[Dragonfli]

30. They will probably give him a medal for bravery /nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. Here's someone who helped identify the suspected culprit. Do him a favor

and buy one of his photos, any photo. He says he makes a living at it. Why not frame a nice large photo of Supervisor Bologna?

http://davidscameracraft.blogspot.com/2011/09/occupy-wall-street-march-violence.html

[Little Star]

77. I did not know that one of the women was deaf. nt

[rug]

43. Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna Notorious Protestor Abuser

http://cryptome.org/info/bologna-abuser/bologna-abuser.htm

[graywarrior]

53. Kick kick kick

[DaveJ]

56. I would also like to know who promoted this slime

Slime is slime but whoever thought it was appropriate to scrape slime off the street and promote him to lieutenant needs to be looked at too.

[bluestate10]

95. Probably Rudy and convict number whatever, Bernie. nt

[louslobbs]

57. K&R

Lou

[Dawson Leery]

60. These SOB's need to be held accountable.

[backscatter712]

64. Please tell me this information is already on 4chan...

They can get creative when exacting righteous retribution on SOB's that desperately need it. :evilgrin:

[toddaa]

71. it's not

Is it really that difficult to enter http://www.4chan.org in your address bar?

[pintobean]

66. Tony Baloney?

:rofl:

[gateley]

69. Don't think they should have outed the family members. They aren't

responsible if they have an asshole in their midst -- they may loathe him for all we know.

His law problems, his name -- all fair in my opinion. Home # and family members, below the belt without knowing more.

[sabrina 1]

78. I don't think they did, gateley.

The issued a statement saying they had not made a final decision on how to go about this, and then saw that someone else had released info. His children are grown and that seems to be all we know.

[gateley]

98. Good -- that's better. :-) nt

[dana_b]

105. actually

anonymous did post that info. I clicked on one of their links (from twitter) and a possible home phone # and the names of numerous family members were listed. I just checked the trends on the site where they posted it and almost 35,000 have seen it. :(

[Oceansaway]

70. K&R...n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

74. K&FREAKIN'R! GO Anonymous! n/t

[DLnyc]

80. Interesting, the Guardian picked it up now:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/27/occupy-wall-street-anthony-bologna?newsfeed=true

(and I notice they corrected the spelling of 'barbaric'.)

[marions ghost]

82. Hope there will be more lawsuits

for officer Tony Baloney ...

[malaise]

84. Oh yes!

There will be more lawsuits.

[kestrel91316]

96. Ruh roh, now Tony Baloney's gonna get his weasely a** sued.

Cue the tiny violins.

[alp227]

97. that cop deserves to be scorned and spat on when he walks down NYC n/t

[Sandrine for you]

99. I support anonymous too. nt.

[Vidar]

100. K&R.

[Rex]

102. Welcome to the new world of zero privacy.

Maybe that will make some of the white collars think twice about helping their paymasters incite a riot. Nah, they will just start taking all the cameras away...for national security reasons doncha know!

[unionworks]

103. k&r n/t

[FunMe]

104. "Expect us!" definition

Couldn't that just mean that they are going to keep reporting the names of police officers who break the law?

I don't see any violent threat.

If anything, maybe I'm wrong, I see it as a message "we know who you are, and if you break any laws by violating the civil rights of Americans, we will expose you".

[pam4water]

106. K&R

[Drew Richards]

107. maybe it was a reference to officer barbrady of the simpsons? he likes to pepper spray

[backscatter712]

114. I thought Barbrady was from South Park.

Wiggum was from the Simpsons.

[Drew Richards]

162. yes youre correct my bad :)

[Courtesy Flush]

110. Police are working class citizens

It amazes me that they can treat their fellow citizens this way, especially since the protesters are acting in the best interests of the officers, as well as the rest of us. I doubt that they were following orders when they added violence to a peaceful demonstration.

I sometimes see videos of police who show great respect to protesters, and I try to keep in mind that they don't all act like the officer in New York, but I see so many stories like this that I wonder which ones are in the majority.

[Pamela Troy]

117. So you also stand with anti-abortion zealots

who target the spouses and children of abortion providers and landlords...right?

[Occulus]

167. False equivalence.

Difference in both kind and degree.

You fail. Miserably.

[Pamela Troy]

170. I'm not impressed when right wingers invoke

"false equivalence," so why should I be impressed when you do it.

As it's used here, it's just another way of saying, "It's okay when WE do it."

[seabeyond]

121. i had expected A to break into his email and everything else and give us the trash on this man

ah well.

[BetsysGhost]

125. unrec

Standing FOR anyones privacy being invaded is barbaric.

[Aaria]

127. Sometimes you have to fight with what you have.

[femrap]

128. K and R

Tony Bologna.

Someone needs to take his bologna and run.

[L. Coyote]

130. Who manufactured the mace?

just thinking we should go after the source too, and out them

[The Backlash Cometh]

132. What language would use the word "kettle" in an English translation.

I've never seen it used that way.

[cwydro]

136. I wondered what the hell it meant there too.

And someone needs to learn how to spell check their publicity releases.

[ifnotformazie]

133. Yes Anon. This IS The Way

Make him look over his shoulder. Make him worry about his family. Make him run-LIKE THE COWARD WOMAN ATTACKER HE IS.
It's time to make them know that we WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

[sufrommich]

134. And if some psycho violent criminal he's arrested in the

past goes after his kids out of some warped sense of revenge then he asked for it!! Mob rule rules,man!!

[SoapBox]

137. K & R

[Raster]

138. I stand with Anonymous!

:headbang:

[OwnedByFerrets]

139. # 250

[silverweb]

140. K&R

n/t

[DaveJ]

147. It is frustrating that the NYPD stands behind the macing

"...according to the NYT, the chief police spokesman, Paul Browne, said that the policeman used pepper spray appropriately."
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/09/an-important-video-to-watch-pepper-spray-by-a-cruel-and-cowardly-nyc-cop/245629/

I understand that macings have been commonplace for years, and we are just now witnessing them due to the increased prevalence of video phones. It is a police habit that is not going to be easily dismissed.

[tcaudilllg]

149. The only place that "cop" belongs

is in a cage.

[JohnnyRingo]

151. I wouldn't want to be outed by Anonymous.

But then, I'm not drunk with power and holding a can of mace.

[davidwparker]

155. Again, are you sure it is Anonymous and not someone

trying to discredit Anonymous?

[Name removed]

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