"Niggerhead."

[stevedeshazer]

Seriously.

This is the name of Rick Perry's hunting camp.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/rick-perry-familys-hunting-camp-still-known-to-many-by-old-racially-charged-name/2011/10/01/gIQAOhY5DL_story.html

Paint Creek, Tex. — In the early years of his political career, Rick Perry began hosting fellow lawmakers, friends and supporters at his family’s secluded West Texas hunting camp, a place known by the name painted in block letters across a large, flat rock standing upright at its gated entrance.

“Niggerhead,” it read.

Ranchers who once grazed cattle on the 1,070-acre parcel on the Clear Fork of the Brazos River called it by that name well before Perry and his father, Ray, began hunting there in the early 1980s. There is no definitive account of when the rock first appeared on the property. In an earlier time, the name on the rock was often given to mountains and creeks and rock outcroppings across the country. Over the years, civil rights groups and government agencies have had some success changing those and other racially offensive names that dotted the nation’s maps.

But the name of this particular parcel did not change for years after it became associated with Rick Perry, first as a private citizen, then as a state official and finally as Texas governor. Some locals still call it that. As recently as this summer, the slablike rock — lying flat, the name still faintly visible beneath a coat of white paint — remained by the gated entrance to the camp.

[Arctic Dave]

1. Wow.

Wow.

[stevedeshazer]

2. And this guy is a leader for the Republican nomination for POTUS.

This is disgusting beyond measure.

[TheWraith]

69. I find it increasingly hard to be shocked by practically anything the Republicans do anymore.

Virtually the only thing that would surprise me from the Republican presidential field is if they all got up and said "We are horrible human beings, and we want to throw people we don't like into concentration camps." And the thing that would surprise me the most is that they admitted it.

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[roguevalley]

36. its vomitous isn't it. bet it comes up in the next debate. maybe.

[Towlie]

42. "Ohh.. Mr. Perry's campaign's exploded!"

"Good thing too."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN5rqMxmmpM

[Bloke 32]

87. Truly disgusting

That is all.

[Drix]

3. But Herman Cain says Black people don't vote Republican

because they are brain washed. I'm confused.

[Kurovski]

5. Well...Cain might want to go a-huntin with Perry sometime.

Have a good non-washed brain type of laugh over it.

[Ken Burch]

12. If I was Herman Cain

The LAST place I'd ever want to be was with a heavily-armed Rick Perry and his friends in an isolated rural area. Shouldn't have to fill in the blanks for anybody here on why.

[Kurovski]

14. I'm guessing Mr. Cain would agree.

But, well...it's good for business to pretend otherwise.

[A wise Man]

16. I hope he does go hunting with them..

and take Clarence Thomas with him. Let all come back except 2....DUHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[1monster]

43. And Dick Cheney too!

:evilgrin:

[DireStrike]

63. Better yet, none would come back at all. -nt-

[Erose999]

95. I really think the next debate should be a Thunderdome type affair

I'll even go as far as to offer a roll of chicken-wire, some 2x4's, and a pile of pitchforks, axes, and machetes to make this happen...

[Ken Burch]

99. Can they get Mel Gibson to moderate it, then?

n/t.

[MrMickeysMom]

26. You think YOU'RE confused?

Imagine what his staff of marketing overseers have to keep up with...

Stockholm syndrome? Yes, this guy and some other radio hosts I've had the misfortune to watch spout off this nonsense, in the attempt to be accepted by anyone who can catapult them on stage. The people who handle them must have a pretty difficult time keeping up with the party's socio-pathic-driven, self-loathing ideologies.

[Kennah]

4. Anyone taking bets on whether Perry's star in the GOP RISES because of this?

[Kurovski]

6. Zoooom! Pow! To the moon, Alice!!

[Kennah]

8. That's my take on it.

If you find a sucker to bet against you, let me know. I'll start raising some cash.

[Kurovski]

9. Sting operation "Perry & Thrust" has commenced.

[MADem]

7. Well, he gives a few long-winded explanations about how he painted over the rock,

but it doesn't really matter. What's buggy is that his explanations don't match the recollections of others:

“I remember the first time I went through that pasture and saw that,” said Ronnie Brooks, a retired game warden who began working in the region in 1981 and who said he guided three or four turkey shoots for Rick Perry when Perry was a state legislator between 1985 and 1990. “. . . It kind of offended me, truthfully.”

It doesn't even matter that he didn't name the place. He left the sign up for eons. And it wasn't tiny--it was huge:

The rock was about five feet across and three feet tall, smooth and relatively flat, the word in block letters stretching across its surface, said the former worker from the Hendrick ranch, who said he had seen the rock numerous times over the past 30 years.

“I was just so taken aback that it was so blatant, so in your face,” said a person from the Dallas area who visited the camp once in 1990 or 1991 and did not want to be named in a story potentially critical of Perry. “It was just, ‘whop.’ It was a big rock, big enough to write that whole thing out.”


Who the hell would want to lease a place with that name? The first person to find an old picture of Perry posing in front of the sign will probably make a nice payday....

[7wo7rees]

71. Everybody settle down. It's been renamed.

Now it's called "Whiteys Rule the World Camp." See? No more racism!

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Well, why change it? It's HERITAGE, you know? nt

[YellowCosmicSun]

11. What if someone actually asked him about this? Now that would be a real fumble.

[leeroysphitz]

20. The media isn't paid to ask questions.

[LuvNewcastle]

13. What if the sign had read "Gay Times Ranch?"

I think there would have been more effort to change it.

[oldhippydude]

55. if you ever have driven through Idaho

the name of the main drag in Fruitland Idaho is the Gay Way... just sayin

[NOLALady]

59. Ummm.

Or something like "Toasted Jew"?

[Major Hogwash]

82. Probably won't see any streets named "Santorum Way" anytime soon.

Not in Texas anyway.

[B Calm]

15. Niggerhead is a trucking term used to define a large round rock or

outcropping of rocks usually on an unpaved road bed.

[polmaven]

17. And why is that???

Because to the drivers that first began using it the heads of N***ers and the outcropping of rocks were the same? I cannot believe that it came about innocently. How could it?

Good God that man becomes more and more disgusting every day! It is almost embarrassing that I actually agree with him on one single issue - The Texas Dream Act, disgusting racist, homophobic, elitist that he is.

[ThomWV]

41. responded to wrong post.

I didn't name them.

[badtoworse]

21. It's also a term once used by the British navy to describe a certain type of mooring post - nt

[Erose999]

96. The British were major players in chattel slavery as well, even before Shakespearean times.

Shakespeare's works are filled with racist terminology like "blackamoor".

[Zynx]

23. For a bad reason:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggerhead

[ThomWV]

25. It was also a common name for coral outcropings on the outer reefs of the keys way back when.

If you did a lot of night reef fishing down in the Keys (a somewhat dangerous but very productive sort of fishing) back 40 or so years ago the word would have been familiar to you. It is the name given to coral outcrops quite a way off shore that might be exposed at low tide. They will rip the bottom right out of a boat if they are hit, but they harbor lots of fish.

[Zynx]

29. Yes, but it is exclusively racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggerhead

[freeplessinseattle]

73. Thank you!! eom

[SwampG8r]

88. is that another square grouper fisherman on here?

thought i was alone

[Tesha]

27. Care to take that folksy etymology one step further and figure out *WHY* such an outcropping...

...of rocks is called that?

Tesha

[yardwork]

38. O.M.G.

[toddwv]

45. Right, and Brazil nuts used to be called "nigger toes".

Doesn't make it right.
Doesn't justify it's continued use.

[roody]

85. Brazil nuts were called that in my home in 1953 and later. eom

[Jamastiene]

101. That is what my mother used to call them.

I didn't like it. It was disgusting. I decided to call them Brazil nuts from a very young age.

[fishwax]

47. it's a *racist* trucking term used to define etc. n/t

[The Wielding Truth]

57. It's a nasty racist trucking term. IMO.

[Botany]

65. Niggerhead is also used to describe a large rock ....

..... that is hard to dig up and is in the way when you are planting a tree or digging a post hole. And yes it used
and laughed @ because people know it is a racist term. I never used the term but in landscaping and landscape
construction it was very common ....... also linked to the fact that if you were in a fight w/ an African American the
urban legend was that blacks had harder heads then whites.

[WilliamPitt]

66. (facepalm)

Thanks for clearing that up.

:eyes:

[Lucian]

70. Yeah, time for truckers to get a different name for that.

[1StrongBlackMan]

81. See?

No reason to be offended.

I knew I could count on a DUer to provide a non-racial meaning for this. Thanks.

[Courtesy Flush]

93. And the swastika was once a sign of peace

The fact is, Perry allowed the word to continue to be used, even in its modern context, and even while holding state elected office.

[NewJeffCT]

18. Perry leaked this himself to shore up his teabagger base, who had been wavering

when Perry was revealed to be for in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.

[Leopolds Ghost]

103. That's what *I* thought when I first heard this!

[Major Hogwash]

19. Really strange name for a ranch. Other like named ranches & spots changed their name 30 years ago

Or longer. Incredible that he still has the rock in one piece on his property.

[greytdemocrat]

22. Racist scum. n/t

[Tennessee Gal]

24. Disgusting.

[nc4bo]

28. "Niggerhead"? Really Gov. Perry you GWBush wannabebutdumber, racist POS a$$hat?! nt

[Major Hogwash]

89. He wasn't even smart enough to bury the rock.

Or have it jackhammered in to little pieces.
He probably considers it a family heirloom by now.

LoL

[Anonymous1952]

30. Images of the rock

I'm pretty good at internet searches and have been unable to find an image.

This must have been an often photographed and shared image. Visitors to the camp would have thought it amusing and something all their acquaintances would enjoy.

All the images could not have been scrubbed, including from archives on servers.

Could someone share an image with citations and documentation?

[Leopolds Ghost]

105. If they *were* scrubbed, what does that say about our "free" media?

Says to me they can hire the right person to scrub anything they want if it affects a politician.

[yardwork]

109. Good try, Rick. This isn't going away that easily.

[bik0]

31. Wow - somebody please explain how this makes Perry racist...

“When my Dad joined the lease in 1983, he took the first opportunity he had to paint over the offensive word on the rock during the 4th of July holiday,” Perry said in his initial response. “It is my understanding that the rock was eventually turned over to further obscure what was originally written on it.”

Perry said that he was not with his father when he painted over the name but that he “agreed with” the decision.

In response to follow-up questions, Perry gave a more detailed account.

“My mother and father went to the lease and painted the rock in either 1983 or 1984,” Perry wrote. “This occurred after I paid a visit to the property with a friend and saw the rock with the offensive word. After my visit I called my folks and mentioned it to them, and they painted it over during their next visit.”

[Kurovski]

33. Here's the thing: It's gonna be many decades before the Republicans shake their embrace of racism.

Cain's recent speechifying, and a tale about the painting of a rock is hardly even a start.

In addition, many people find Perry a deeply disingenuous character due to his career as politician.

Unfair, mayhaps...but Perry will have his money, power, and connections to dry his tears.

Don't cry for him Argentina, stiff upper lip, wot, wot?

[The Wielding Truth]

60. You mean Perry had it painted over as soon as he had the right to?

[fishwax]

97. well, so he says

"Perry’s version of events differs in many respects from the recollections of seven people, interviewed by The Washington Post, who spoke in detail of their memories of seeing the rock with the name at various points during the years that Perry was associated with the property through his father, partners or his signature on a lease."

Perry's version of events even appears to differ from his own version of events, as the quotes you've included demonstrate.

[lynne]

32. I'm sure he searched out property with a racist name to purchase -

- This is really stretching it a bit. It was called that long before he had anything to do with the property and its obvious that someone tried to remove the name on the rock by painting over it.

Give him marks for bad maintenance as the paint is fading and the name is "still faintly visible" but - other than that - this is an embarrassing stretch. There's plenty of things to go after Perry for but this isn't one of them.

[yardwork]

111. Eye witnesses say that the name was not whitewashed out until recently.

That's why it is still visible. This is a whitewash in more ways than one, and a sloppy one.

Why is this important? Think about what it means for somebody who is a leading candidate for president to have grown up and lived in a family and community that thought this was ok.

A word that most living people in the U.S. recognize as absolutely taboo was the source of a huge joke for decades that Rick Perry lived and played under.

[fascisthunter]

34. american nazi!

bigots are traitors to the America. They add no benefit to society... all they do is separate humans from each other by spreading hatred and paranoia of people they know nothing about.

[mulsh]

35. Seriously, what's the problem? An offensive name, definitely.

But we now know for sure that this person is not in any remote way fit to hold any sort of public office. Even the folks at Stormfront rarely use the "n" word, at least in print.

Thank God he's mostly Texas problem. I hope this issue helps to speed him into the obscurity he so richly deserves.

[yardwork]

37. And he literally white-washed it. Just wow.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

39. Maybe he should move to White Settlement, TX

That is the name of a real town in Texas.

:wtf:

[Pisces]

40. THis will have little if any significance for the Republicans. They long for the days

of the 50's and 60's when people of color new their place. The good old days. All of this hullabaloo over a painted sign ( that will be their take)

[liberal N proud]

44. Correct

These are the same people who cheered to let a man die and booed a gay soldier.

They most likely will find it amusing.

[Kurovski]

92. Right Wing humorists across the country...

will be painting rocks in their own backyards.

[Dawson Leery]

46. This only endears Rick Perry to the tea party.

[Major Hogwash]

86. Yeah, as soon as they find out about it, this will propel him back to the top of their polls.

And then he will just wink at the crowds like Bush used to do and tell them that he "had no idea what was written on that lil' rock, y'all" but the wink will tell them all that he did.

[BenzoDia]

48. Sigh. nt

[workinclasszero]

49. Republican/Teabaggers racist?

Couldn't see that coming eh? Go figure.:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :eyes:

Hey is this an example of leftist brainwashing that Cain was spewing out of his piehole the other day? (F'in idiot!)

[Kurovski]

53. Check out pepperbear's link below...nt

[pepperbear]

50. Even his GOP opponents will have to tag him for it.

Looks like one has already done it.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44747781/ns/politics-decision_2012/


Could this be his "Macaca" moment?

[stevedeshazer]

64. I think so.

Interesting comparison.

[WinkyDink]

51. This is what Bill Clinton must have said that was unfit for a family news magazine.

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Apparently the subject came up on Faux Snooze

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44747781/ns/politics-decision_2012/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44747781/ns/politics-decision_2012/

Waiting for the repukes to claim that Cain is playing the "race card" by calling it out while "Parry" basks in new-found repuke street cred. :rofl:

[mod mom]

54. "Throckmorton" a radiographic sign, the penis points to the side on injury

figures a dick like Perry would come from there.

[Initech]

56. Can we finally declare the tea party a racist movement and get it over with?

[malaise]

58. It's all over CNN now n/t

[NOLALady]

61. I can only imagine the talking heads if

Obama had a hunting camp called, "PWTrashHead".

Obama had to reject his Minister. I guess he would have to burn the camp.

[L0oniX]

62. Not surprised. GOP is full of racists ...not that the Dems don't have any but...

its small compared to the GOP.

[cppuddy]

67. just dont invite cheney, when cain and perry go on that hunting trip!

[Shagbark Hickory]

68. The Free Dictionary defines it as...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/niggerhead

Read it for yourself.

[Doc Holliday]

76. I thought I remembered

the chewing tobacco definition from reading Huckleberry Finn, but wasn't sure. The nautical references were new to me.

As for all the rest of it: if people can still read it, it doesn't sound to me as if it was 'painted over' very well. Prob'ly coulda used another coat. :evilgrin:

[NoodleyAppendage]

79. Perry's Mucaca Moment

This guy is toast after this racist reveal. I love how the shitkicker Republic types keep on getting tripped up by their inherent racism.

J

[alp227]

72. At least Reagan was a lot more subtle when he talked about states' rights in Mississippi

to kick off his 1980 campaign.

[benfranklin1776]

74. Now we see why he proposed secession.

It was in accord with his core Confederate beliefs.

[Scurrilous]

75. Unbelievable. n/t

[TomClash]

77. Just rename it . . .

. . . Dickhead. Problem solved!

[teddybeans77]

78. Perry is a nightmare waiting to happen.

[Dawson Leery]

80. A tea party approved name.

:puke:

[Deep13]

83. Well, that's unfortunate. nt

[Recursion]

84. Tell me it's named after the tobacco?

Sigh

[AsahinaKimi]

91. Have you seen this on Yahoo?

Cain: Perry insensitive over name of hunting camp
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on Sunday criticized rival Rick Perry as being insensitive for not acting sooner in removing the racially offensive name from a rock outside the Texas hunting camp his family once leased.

Perry's campaign countered that Perry's father painted over the rock to cover the name, Niggerhead, soon after he began leasing the site in the early 1980s. While the Texas governor later joined the lease, neither he nor his family ever controlled, owned or managed the property, the campaign said in a statement.

The Washington Post reported Sunday that the origins of the name were unclear and there was no definitive account for when and how the name first appeared on a large, flat rock at the gated entrance to the Throckmorton County property. In recent photos the word is mostly obscured by white paint, the Post reported.

more..
http://news.yahoo.com/cain-perry-insensitive-over-name-hunting-camp-153344971.html?nc

[Major Hogwash]

102. Yeah, they whitewashed the rock.

Literally.

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[Jamastiene]

100. Wow, what a dickhead he is.

[vets74]

104. I recall getting yelled at as "Nigger lover !"

My Dad integrated a canning plant. All Hell broke loose.

Hating black people didn't make sense to me.

[reformist2]

106. How is this only now coming to light?! Aren't there any investigative journalists in Texas?

[oldlib]

107. I remember as a child that we ate a nut

that we called nigger toe. It was a dark, hard nut that was difficult to crack. This is now an embarrassment, that we could so freely call it that. Living in the rural Northwest, I had not even seen a person of color, as we didn't have TV in those days. I apologize to all.

[Avalux]

110. Interesting.....

we called them that when I was young too, but in central PA. And yes, never thought anything of it; nothing but white people in my hometown. Embarrassing to admit it and I apologize as well.

[GreenStormCloud]

108. There is a mountain in California by that name.

http://californiamaps.org/place.php?county=Los+Angeles&feature=Niggerhead+Mountain