“It may require our military in Mexico,”

[Ichingcarpenter]

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Saturday that he would consider sending U.S. troops into Mexico to combat drug-related violence and stop it from spilling into the southern United States.

“It may require our military in Mexico,” Perry said in answer to a question about the growing threat of drug violence along the southern border. Perry offered no details, and a spokesman, Robert Black, said afterward that sending troops to Mexico would be merely one way of putting an end to the exploding cartel-related violence in the region.

Black said Perry’s intention is to work with the Mexican government, but he declined to specify whether Perry is amenable to sending troops into Mexico with or without the country’s consent.

“If he were president he would do what it takes,” Black said. “The governor said, ‘I’m going to work with the Mexican government to do what’s necessary.’ ”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/perry-send-us-troops-to-mexico-to-fight-drug-wars/2011/10/01/gIQA2qDGDL_story.html

[AverageJoe90]

1. Fuck you Rick Perry!

From a pissed off North Texan. :mad:

[EmeraldCityGrl]

14. +1

[fasttense]

2. Oh great, yet another war to waste our tax dollars on. n/t

[DonCoquixote]

3. Never mind that

legalizing pot would dry up a lot of the drug cartel's profit,not all, but a lot.

[DonCoquixote]

4. and if yout think Mexico's oil

has nothing to do with this, I have a few wells in Texas to sell you.

[Systematic Chaos]

5. It has a lot to do with it, but not in the way I think YOU think.

Problem is, Mexico's oil fields are losing production hand over fist. As soon as they can no longer export oil, there goes their entire economy -- except for drugs pretty much.

It hasn't even begun to get ugly along our border with Mexico yet.

[JohnnyRingo]

6. Somebody has to do something

I'm not suggesting direct American intervention, but it's become a murder factory down there. Thousands have been tortured, killed, dismembered, and left on the streets as a message to others since just this spring. In the last four years, the number approaches 37,000. Nearly half of those have happened in the last year or so as the violence has escalated expotentially over time.

Now a couple weeks ago the Gulf Cartel stepped up threatening to kill Zeta Cartel members who litter their turf with mutilated bodies. Though they have ulterior motives they seem to have the grace, or at least the blind eye, of the Mexican state. Unlike the US "War On Drugs", this is a shooting war with very real casualties. Nearly 200 American citizens have died so far in Mexico.

I read an article in Rolling Stone recently that explains how careful they are not bring the carnage across the US border in a strategic move to wisely keep us uninvolved. Still, we are indeed involved, as it's clear that weapons bought here travel south in unbelievable quantities because of the incredible funding the cartels have, and drugs make the return trip for an obscene profit. This is all being done with American greenbacks, and very little of the product is relatively harmless and unprofitable marijuana. Powders pack smaller, don't stink, and net a higher value per pound.

In this lightly populated area of NE Ohio heroin has made an incredible comeback, and it's not coming in on a boat. My oldest son, who's pretty saavy, tells me the small rural town he lives in just north of me is rife with junk, and I was shocked when my cousin's 22 year old daughter died last week of a heroin overdose in a small white bread town just five miles to the West. I've smoked my share of weed over the years, and I'm fairly tolerant of recreational drugs, but it's not the '70s anymore (dude). Because of the Mexican drug trade, we now have a looming social problem here in the US that has to be addressed soon.

Though Perry's concerns have foundation in fact, screw him anyway. He does nothing unless there's a political payout for him personally, and I wouldn't trust him with a scout troop.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/28/ap/latinamerica/main20113010.shtml

[Manifestor_of_Light]

16. Kent? Saybrook? Ashtabula?

My dad was from up there. He would be shocked.

[JohnnyRingo]

27. Near Youngstown

Not in the suburbs of Y'Town, but about 20 miles North in Cortland on Mosquito Lake. Pop is about 6,000. According to police here, there's a drug artery that runs between Detroit and nearby Warren.

The aforementioned Mecca Township, about 2 miles North, is a rural haven for crime in Trumbull County. The home of what locals call "The Mecca Mafia", there's little police presence and illicit activity from chop shops to meth labs rule the town. Bikers are the town patriarchs and while there's little in the newspapers, when something happens it happens big. A couple years ago a man I'd known since he was a teen was confronted by county sheriffs as he attempted to break into his girlfriend's trailer. According to police he turned and opened fire with a fully auto Thompson machine gun. I personally knew "Rotten" was a kingpin in the MM, and though some claim it was murder I have good reason to believe it happened just as police say. His unfortunate moniker doesn't help his supporters' case.

Even through all the years of illegal activity and newsworthy events like a mobile meth lab caught in a traffic stop, I'm still shocked that heroin has become a common street drug in this rural suburban market. My son, without going into incriminating detail, has intimate knowledge of the local underworld and should be considered credible in his assessment that it has become near epidemic.

Even if Mecca seems a fluke of quiet residential hometowns, I believe the heroin trade now lies just beneath the saltbox patina of white working class neighborhoods across the country. One just has to scrape the surface and tap into a youthful source to hear the facts about what crawls the streets your own hometown when the street lights come on. I remember when crack was still called freebase, and no one believed the drug would soon be commonplace in their small bedroom communities. I knew otherwise.

[Major Nikon]

17. Legalizing pot would make a tremendous difference

If you look at the CBP's numbers, marijuana seizures eclipse those of any other type of drug. The Tucson sector of the CBP seized 1.2 million pounds of marijuana vs 525 pounds of cocaine and only 137 ounces of heroin in 2009. Even if you take into account that drugs other than marijuana are harder to detect and therefore probably more is making it across, you still are left with the conclusion that marijuana is fueling the vast majority of the illegal drug trade. You also have the fact that marijuana can be produced in many more places and by using more low tech methods. Sending the military in to attack the production and distribution networks will never work the way it did with the cocaine trade.

http://theepitaph.com/border/301-record-illegal-drug-seizures-at-border

[newfie11]

7. There is no end to these wars

Send perry!!!

[no_hypocrisy]

8. When he raises the taxes on the rich to pay for a trip to Mexico as well as

universal draft without options like education, then well, maybe.

[a la izquierda]

9. Ahh, yes...that would end swimmingly.

Wasn't there an Onion article about asking historians what to do? Seriously, Rick Perry, the Mexican historians (myself included) are begging you for a chat first. Considering your disdain for facts, though, I'm sure you'll just invade.

And then, welp, I'd hope to not be living in the southwest.

[frankcjames]

10. I've been around a long time ....

... and I remember Ronald Reagan very well. This Perry reminds me a lot of Reagan. Similar face, same charm and speaking ability.

He's the only current Republican that I think might could win a national election. Let's try to encourage our Republican friends to nominate somebody else :-)

[madrchsod]

13. reagan was an intelligent guy...perry is the village idiot

[Major Nikon]

18. Raygan was an idiot who allowed himself to be used as a puppet

As if he wasn't dumb enough, he also suffered from brain rot throughout most of his presiduncy. At least Perry has a greed motive for being in public office. Raygun genuinely thought he was doing the right thing as he was allowing evil people to pull his strings. He was totally ignorant and indifferent to what was going on in his own administration at all levels. Raygun was an actor, and not even a good one at that. He could read a script somewhat convincingly. That's really the only thing good you can say about him.

[jberryhill]

22. He was a little more personable and had emotional intelligence, but

Intellectually, I'd be hard-pressed to call a winner between Reagan and Perry.

[frankcjames]

25. You may be right.

But if I recall, Reagan's strength was how he came across on TV. Perry seems to have that same knack.

[Rhiannon12866]

28. True, but Reagan didn't come off as crazy.

So much of what Perry says is so outside the mainstream that I can't see him appealing to a national electorate, but that's true of the rest of these loons, as well. :crazy:

Welcome to DU, frankcjames! We're glad to have you with us! :hi:

[spanone]

11. i have a pile of manure in my field that is more intelligent than the rickster

[madrchsod]

12. he really is an idiot.......

[TxIndVoter]

15. It gets crazier, Perry has ties to TERRORISTS

A shocking new expose of Perry's ties to terrorists. Perry shared the stage and endorsed a militia that tried to kill George Bush and all kinds of lunacy.

Amazing. I don't think he has a prayer of winning once this gets out. How could any American support him after this?



http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005QRPHB4
A hard hitting expose of Rick Perry palling around with terrorists. The shocking story of the man who would be president supporting terrorists who tried to kill George W Bush and Bill Clinton, plotted to murder American soldiers, tried to murder Texas cops, kidnapped innocents, and extorted BILLIONS.

More than an expose, Thank You Rick Perry is also a work of alternate history showing how Perry's treason could have led to a shattered Texas. Militias would launch more campaigns of assassination and bombings. Loyal Americans would rise up against secession. Loyal patriots in the state, Mexican-Americans, Blacks, progressives, moderates, and non-treasonous conservatives would struggle to keep much of Texas in the USA, and would break away from Texas to form their own states.

A book for anyone asking the questions, "How could such an extremist as Perry be considered for president?" and "How can anyone claiming to be a loyal American favor secession and treason, and what can true patriots do to stop them?"

[Kablooie]

19. Cool! Let's start another war and this time make sure it's next door.

The middle east wars weren't nearly exciting enough because they were so far away they couldn't get back at us.
This new one will be much more fun!

[Heywood J]

20. No more Presidents who claim Texas as their home.

Every one (or hopeful wanna-be) in recent history seems determined to find a country and get his quagmire on.

When Texas starts putting forward Presidential candidates who don't look at young men and women as plastic toy soldiers to melt in the microwave, we can reconsider this.

[alphafemale]

21. ummm...errr

Has he actually talked to anyone in the military about this?

[Eddie Haskell]

23. It may require our military in NYC.

Perry can suck kiss my petunia.

[Matariki]

24. It wouldn't surprise me if a Texas Governor was on the take from drug cartels.

And would use the military for the benefit of one cartel over rival cartels.

[leeroysphitz]

26. What could go wrong? n/t