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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:51 PM
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When 99% of people agree to not buy any product or service from companies on some list ...
the 99% can be very effective, and only the targets of the boycott are inconvenienced.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:55 PM
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1. When 99% stop voting for the traitors in Washington who help the 1%
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 05:56 PM by boston bean
while screwing the 99%, the corps and corrupt politicians will be inconvenienced.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:59 PM
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3. BUT not voting them in requires that SOMEONE ELSE be voted in, & THERE
is 1 of our problems
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:56 PM
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9. Dollars are votes. The SCOTUS says so.
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 06:57 PM by WhiteTara
edit to add:

So let's reverse engineer the problem and help take them down that way as well. Cesar Chavez gave farm workers a living wage because of the grape boycott.
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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:59 PM
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2. Sounds good.
Do you have a list handy?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:09 PM
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4. The longest journey begins with a single step
First they gather.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:27 PM
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5. Top of my list are Georgia-Pacific products - owned by Koch Brothers.
These brands are:

Bathroom tissue:
Angel Soft
Quilted Northern
Soft n' Gentle

Dixie brand paper plates and cups

Napkins:
Vanity Fair
Mardi Gras
Dixie

Paper Towels:
Brawny
Mardi Gras
Sparkle

Home and Office Papers:
Advantage
Image Plus
Spectrum


I buy Viva paper towels and Charmin bathroom tissue, and don't buy paper plates. This is just one of the Koch's many divisions, but I boycott them where ever I find them.

I wouldn't wipe my ass on a piece of Koch Bros. toilet paper.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:30 PM
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6. WTH? It looks like they cornered the market on toilet paper. At least I can
pretend that it's one of their faces when I wipe my ass.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:47 PM
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8. There is Cottonelle
toilet paper as well....Kimberly Clark. Aldi's has good paper towels, too. Viva are great....good for cleaning.

I've been trying to use cloth napkins.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 07:05 PM
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10. +1 n/t
Lou
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 08:53 PM
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13. I've been boycotting them for a while
I accidentally bought a ream of printing paper which, I found out after opening the package, came from their evil corporation. Needless to say, the quality is shit. I have to hold down all but one sheet of paper, because it sticks to itself, and multiple pieces get dragged into the printer when I don't hold down the pile.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 06:31 PM
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7. Boycotts work. I just bought my first jug of Gallo wine to cook with
since the boycott was called in 1975.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 07:50 PM
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11. LOL I still haven't bought one but then I am diabetic and cannot drink, nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 07:54 PM
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12. I don't think I've yet bought a grape.
lol

:hi:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 08:54 PM
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14. The grape boycott is finally over?
:woohoo: I have missed grapes something fierce.

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 09:45 PM
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15. What's a grape?
:rofl:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:05 PM
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16. Still not over, huh? Damn.
:rofl:

Pisses me off to no end, poisoning workers all these years... :cry:

My Nana made an awesome Waldorf salad, I miss it and her so much. :cry:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:51 PM
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22. I'm so sorry. Mine used to peel them for me.
They never lasted long enough to go into a salad.

You better go on ahead, I think it's too late for me!

lol
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:26 PM
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25. She peeled them? That is sweet.
We were forbidden to touch those grapes by Granddad, he loved his salad, but only on Thanksgiving! The rest of the year it was a grape eating free for all! :rofl: Glad I ate so many before I became socially conscious and understood the boycott. :)

I need to do some research and find out what is up with the grapes now. I know the UFW were marching recently. Sounds like even if the poisons are less, the conditions still are horrendous.

:hi:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:12 PM
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18. Targeted boycotts of particular items for particular struggles can be effective.
General boycotts on vague anti-corporate grounds don't work. When you get to "buy from Costco not Walmart" territory, by from Nabisco and not Johnson & Johnson, you're already on ridiculous ground.

We're workers who don't control the means of production. Of course the means of dissemination are also unjust.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:17 PM
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19. there was a boycott against them? was it the grape
boycott and farm workers' rights issues? Sorry - I don't know a lot about that one but I remember Danny Glover, of all people, talking to me about the grape boycott in the 80s.

I always look at the back of paper products now and if it says "Georgia Pacific", it goes back on the shelf.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:07 PM
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23. Yes and I think it was re-upped in 2005 but I didn't pay attention
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 11:07 PM by EFerrari
because I never stopped in the first place.

As for GP, I once camped out on the north coast of CA with my kids for a couple of weeks and everything was stamped "GP" everywhere. It was amazing.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:09 PM
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17. Yawn. Untargeted boycotts are lazy bullshit invented by upper middle class guilt-mongers
who can avoid certain products. Boycotting Sabra and Ahava in support of the Palestinian people is a doable act. Boycotting massive amounts of cheap products by a long list of corporations is an impossible drudge that only rich people who can shop at Whole Foods have the luxury of supporting.

UPRISINGS, STRIKES, AND REVOLUTIONS ARE INCONVENIENT. DEAL WITH IT.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:17 PM
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20. Are Buddhist monks all a bunch of rich people who shop at Whole Foods?
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:22 PM
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21. so which is it - lazy bullshit or an impossible drudge?
btw - we can buy store brands cheaper than products like those from Georgia Pacific and it doesn't take too much hard work or even thought to do. Oh - and we can also participate in uprisings, strikes, etc. at the same time. We're multi talented like that!!
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:26 PM
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24. just as the suggestion goes
when in the process of losing extra weight... don't call it a diet, call it a lifestyle change

If we want to help the people... we don't boycott, we develop a lifestyle change... buy local, buy Union, buy organic, buy less processed, less packaged and support your neighbors and community...

as for TP, only buy recycled...

http://www.nrdc.org/land/forests/tissue.asp

or reusable....
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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:55 PM
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26. Or.....buy used
My husband and I have been buying used for a few years now. Furniture, clothes, appliances, people bought a lot of new shit before this crisis and it's all there at thrift shops, in your local paper. We found that on you tube there are hundreds of videos that show you step by step how to fix washers, dryers, and refrigerators. We took a front loading washing machine, followed the video and for the cost of a spring and a mount, around 12 bucks we have a great machine that keeps going! The lady who had it was just going to throw it away!

We have built a greenhouse out of some windows someone was throwing away, built a cabin from a barn someone wanted torn down, made shutters from pallet lumber. It isn't like we did these things before, we just followed instructions and used a few tools.

Why support this corrupt system anymore, Buy used!

Here is our cabin with reused doors, windows, flooring, siding, beams, ........

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