i am really interested where Loughner got the money, didn't sound like he was capable of working

[sam sarrha]

http://www.usglock.com/index_files/glock19.htm

$438 for a Glock 19 and over $150 worth of ammo, clip is over $60, didn't have money for a cab or bus... and staying in a motel before the shooting.. ?

Manchurian Candate..?

[spanone]

1. dum de dum dum

[davidinalameda]

2. dum dum is right

:eyes:

[atreides1]

3. He did have several jobs

He might have saved up some money...he was probably living rent free...parents might have been paying for his school...and he seemed to have had a credit card.

Just because a person may be crazy, doesn't mean they don't know how to save money!

[safeinOhio]

4. What's in your pocket? n/t

[emilyg]

5. Lint.

[Xipe Totec]

6. Good one!

:rofl:

[LisaL]

7. He was living with his parents, probably wasn't paying rent.

He also had jobs from time to time, although apparently couldn't last long at any of them.
But since we are not talking about huge amounts of money, I doubt there was some big giant conspiracy to give money to Loughner.

[Scruffy1]

9. That's a lot of money to me

It seems that people always find the money for the things they really want like a play station or laptop though. But I'm still thinking manchurean candidate since day 1. Even if it was found out it would be nearly impossible to get a conviction anyhow so we might just as well drive on by.

America is a violent place and will continue to be so because it in the best interest of the rulers to let the subjective violence like the latest killing mask the truth of systemic violence.

[The Straight Story]

8. I am more interested in the why of what he did than the tools, but blaming the tool is easier for

some folks (cue the people saying 'if he never owned a gun he would have been out playing with unicorns and dancing happily with leprechauns').

I don't give a shit where he got it, how, what he paid - I am more interested in knowing why (and if folks want to stop people with guns from killing others, try ending the wars - because our govt has a ton of guns and uses them all the time to kill people, whereas percentage wise US citizens own a ton of guns and do not use them to harm one another).

[applegrove]

10. They said he paid for his hotel room with a credit card.

[sam sarrha]

11. i didn't hear about that.. he was a Pot Head.. so $600+ would a lot of money

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/6169006.stm
David Morales was Chief of Operations and once told friends:
"I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UICDj10UblY

this just came out too

[LisaL]

41. His friend claimed Loughner stopped using pot some time ago.

[jakeXT]

12. He paid for porn

string of pornography charges on his credit card.
...
A federal source close to the case said his credit card had multiple charges for pornography.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2011/01/12/20110112giffords-statement0112.html#ixzz1BA5Pb000

[jakeXT]

13. Maybe he sold something, it seems he had a gun before

A friend, Zane Gutierrez, told the Times Loughner had experience with guns going back to high school. He said he used to meet Loughner to shoot at tin cans but stopped seeing him some months ago because his words and behavior had become so strange.

...

Loughner's employment history appears spotty, raising questions about how he could afford an expensive handgun. The Times said he worked briefly as a volunteer at an animal shelter and said when he applied there that he had a job at an Eddie Bauer store from October 2008 to November 2009.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/01/11/Loughner-bought-400-500-gun-legally/UPI-73481294774268/#ixzz1BA6PcCMS

[pintobean]

14. G. Gordon Liddy

The gold connection!

[Dappleganger]

15. He could have been stealing from his parents.

[BeFree]

16. Or he could have been paid?

No, of course not. No one would pay to have somebody shoot someone.

[Edweird]

17. Really? How much do you think it would cost? He's facing life in prison.

What would you charge for an act that would easily get you the death penalty?

[LisaL]

19. And I also bet he expected to go down like Virginia Tech shooter

or some others.

[BeFree]

21. How much would I charge?

Are you f'n serious?

Criminals however, have their ways. If someone did pay him they did it in a way that they would make the punk think he'd be a hero. Just look at his mug shot. He thinks he is a hero.

[Edweird]

26. You suggested someone paid him to do this. My question is: what's the going rate for suicide?

"Here's a sack of cash, now go get yourself killed" You don't see the flaw in that particular logic?

[Rage for Order]

30. Hey, it works on Muslims in Pakistan!

:rofl:

[Edweird]

32. If I recall correctly they pay the family of the 'suicider'.

[Rage for Order]

33. Yeah, i was being a bit facetious

But nonetheless, if I'm a young guy in Pakistan and some 50 year old imam is extolling the virtues of being a suicide bomber to me, my first question would be, "If it's so great why are you still alive?"

[BeFree]

34. He's a hero.... to some, right?

He even has that look on his face.
Soldiers go to war and sacrifice their lives.

Some people sacrifice their lives to save others.
So... maybe someone beck like, made the punk think he'd be a hero?

[Edweird]

37. It's possible he believes he's a hero. But then, HE'S CRAZY

so he could believe he's a leprechaun that shits rainbows. He clearly had some motivation for his act - I don't believe it was remotely related to some kind of financial reward.

[LisaL]

18. It's already been said he acted alone.

So, no, there isn't a shred of evidence anyone else paid him.

[BeFree]

22. Where did he get his money?

You have the answer to that question?

[LisaL]

24. He had a credit card.

He clearly wouldn't be worried he couldn't pay off the bill. Jeez.

[BeFree]

25. Who gave him the credit card?

Please, stop acting like you have all the answers. You look foolish.

[Edweird]

27. Maybe it was Bank Of America. Holy shit, you just cracked the case!

BOA shot those people!

A credit card isn't 'payment'. It's a high interest short term loan.

[BeFree]

29. Hope you are having fun

This is no way fun for the rest of us.

Who co-signed? Who gave him the money to buy the gun?
We may one day have answers, we may not. It is good to question.

[Edweird]

35. When I was 19 and in college, no one needed to 'co-sign'.

Hell, it was practically part of the orientation. My ex wife and I never had any problem obtaining credit cards, either. We didn't need co-signers. He was in his 20's, not 15. Why do you believe he needed a co-signer? Additionally, if there WAS a co-signer, the FBI will have known about it and acted on it long before now.

[BeFree]

36. Beg your highnesses forgiveness

You have all the answers. Gawd forbid anyone think you don't!!

[Edweird]

38. I don't have anywhere near "all the answers", but I feel fairly confident this guy

wasn't bought off with a visa gift card.

[BeFree]

39. Ahhh

So, it is just your attitude that sucks?

[Edweird]

40. I'm not quite sure I understand your question.

If what you're asking me is more or less "so you're just an asshole?", well, I guess the short answer would be 'yes'. But that's not the whole story. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to express my view of your proposition in the clearest words possible. I've never been any good at subtlety - I'm about as 'nuanced' as a 8lb sledgehammer blow to the face. So, to say I'm not a 'people person' is a bit of an understatement. It's not an attack on you or anything personal.

If I just answered a question you didn't ask, feel free to clarify.

[BeFree]

42. Heh

If you don't have answers, all you can do is question.

If you have all the answers, then your cool. But you don't so you aren't.

[LisaL]

28. I had about enough of this nonsense.

Who gave him a credit card? Are you for real?

[BeFree]

31. Are you?

You have a problem with me asking questions? See, that attitude of yours is foolish.

[LisaL]

20. Or they could have just been giving him money not knowing

what he was up to.

[BlueMTexpat]

23. It's even easier to get credit cards than it is to buy guns in this

country.
For a time, my ex - with whom I remain on reasonably good terms - used our mailing address (my second husband and I) when he was living outside the USA. Lo and behold, one day we received a pre-approved credit card for an individual with HIS first name and the last name of my second husband.
That individual didn't even exist and he had a better credit rating than I did.
:wtf: