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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:04 PM Original message |
Doctors fight back against nurses with doctorates calling themselves 'Dr" |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Uh, well, technically people with Ph.d's ARE doctors |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I really think they should. When I go to the hospital or urgent care, and someone says they are a |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'm not saying it's not confusing, necessarily |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. When I got my Ph.D., the first person to address me as "Doctor" was my physician |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. So do I. I'm a retired nurse. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. exactly. I realize that getting that phD is s LOT |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
110. Having worked in a hospital, I never make that assumption. |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. In this setting, however, it will only cause confusion |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. that isn't really fair to the people who have invested their time and money and effort |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Fair or not, the interests of the patient takes precedence IMO. |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. She told the patient |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
102. How about chiros? Psychiatrists? Other non-medical doctor "doctors". |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. Psychiatrists, in the US, are required to go to med school. If you're going to a chiro, you |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
120. chiropractors can't prescribe medications |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #120 |
140. Then how is my nurse practitioner allowed to prescribe a |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. My Daughter Will Be Finishing Her Degree In May... However, She Has Been |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Sounds great! You're hooked up! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Not To Make This A Athletic Contest & The Noles Started Off Well... BUT |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #149 |
178. Go both boys! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #145 |
153. So Sorry For The MISTAKE... Daughter At USF... Grandson At FSU... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #140 |
146. Because she's under the supervision of an MD |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #146 |
179. Okay....I guess so.... |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
113. What you are describing doesn't seem to me to be an issue of the ... |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. From the patient's perspective, I think the problem is more complicated. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
79. And the M.D.'s are "fighting back". They're just "fighting". They're the agressors. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
148. It's like a boat pilot boarding an aircraft and saying: "I'm a pilot" |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. uh oh... I just got unrecced by someone with a doctorate |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. PhDs & MDs are both Doctors. (nt) |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. But so are lawyers, aren't they? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Yes, Juris Doctor, JD. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. M.D.s versus paper doctors (J.D.s, Ph.D.s etc.) |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Are you all the Trivial Pursuit ringers too? (I am - mainly useless degrees |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
158. Ooh yeah!! Trivial Pursuit is my purpose in life!! |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. credential creep |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. good lord |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think its pretentious for people with PhD's to call themselves "Doctor" |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yep, same here. I know in fact pretentious PhD's and most of them don't |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
143. Yes, I Do Think That Is True... My Daughter Will Be Calling Herself At |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Still many PhDs use a ton of intellectual firepower - often more than the MDs. nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. A PhD holder does NOT want to be "doctor" on an airplane n/t |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. How about dentists? Podiatrists? Chiropractors? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I remember all the controversy over "Dr. Laura" - that she had a docctorate in physiology |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. A title only goes so far |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Physicians typically refer to us veterinarians as "not REAL doctors"", when in fact |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
63. I have a friend who went to vet school first |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
87. It's so rare for a vet to turn to human medicine. One of my classmates did, |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
114. A friend of ours holds a number of degrees. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
151. Back when I looked into going to vet school, |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
74. they have it easy |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
75. But MDs are only qualified to treat one species. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. In general, the lower the prestige of the college, the more likely the professors |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. I think it's pretentious for MDs to think they have a lock on the title./ |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. It's not about them, completely |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. The patient isn't the one who needs to dig through all those doctors looking for a physician. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
116. Doctor is not a protected title as much as physician or surgeon. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. Why? are you Dr. medical admin? |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. My suggestion was a way to reduce confusion. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Good luck with that |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #130 |
165. If I may suggest ... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #165 |
175. colloquial, adjective |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #175 |
180. I think we will agree to disagree on this. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. Your final point I can agree with. nt |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. Bueno. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Thats just Confusious |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
128. I think it's pretentious for other people to call themselves Doctors |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. So it's not confusing for residents to be called doctors, right? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Residents have MDs. They are doctors. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #133 |
154. That's a big differerence. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. So do I |
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mikeytherat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
86. Just the other day, "Disco Lady" is kicking it on internet radio, |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Actually, PhDs were called doctors first, and medical doctors coopted it. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
81. No, I completely disagree |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
134. I don't. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
12. What I really want to know is this: |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. no comparison - very, very difficult to get admitted to medical school, $250K in student loans |
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blueknight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. my wife |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
118. +1. And yes, I am married and work for exceptions to that rule. n/t |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:35 PM Original message |
Getting an advanced degree in nursing is not something a nurse does |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. no -they are different areas |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
119. I would edit that list down to just disease and the suppression thereof. n/t |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Thanks for the responses everyone. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Not everyone wants to be an MD |
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titaniumsalute (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. If I go to a medical doctor's office |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Rachel Maddow is a doctor too |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hold a doctorate. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. Be careful what you wish for, Doc! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. In a medical, clinical or hospital setting, it is nice to be clear if someone is an MD though. |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. Are you my sister? LOL! Make it a true daily double, Alex! |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
82. Hell yes! |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. I have known nurses who knew more than most doctors. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. How about physicians start calling themselves physicians instead? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. good idea. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
83. that's not a bad idea... |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
107. ...in the way that other sorts of doctors do? It would make more sense. n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
136. +1 |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. When you are in a medical setting, you want the patient to know |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. The case in point did both and that's appropriate |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. I have a paper doctorate. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
85. You could be my twin--I have the various assorted degrees you described above, |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
150. Whassup, Doc? |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
31. Get over your hyper-inflated egos, please |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Suggest you read the thread here. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. They've been tantrum throwing crybabies over every little thing |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
101. most medical students today are women, too. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Have you looked at how long it takes to get a PhD in nursing or pharmacology? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. A long time and it's a buttload of work. One of the "moms" at |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Before an MD can start practicing medicine... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Prerequisite for PhD program in nursing: 3.2 GPA |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
45. Nurses deserve more respect than they often get. But in a hospital setting, only MD's are "doctor." |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
104. There is another controversy about nurses and others wearing white coats. Doctors don't like it |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
117. A lot of doctors don't wear white coats anymore |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. my wife while not a dr |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. I have a doctorate. |
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Lizzie Poppet (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #49 |
73. Agreed: it depends on the setting. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
90. why do people with doctorates like to call others by their first name? We all have a title. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
111. The ones I know don't. In social settings, they introduce themselves |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
187. So you believe that customers who have paid you to teach them |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. I am with the MD's on this |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
53. Can't wait 'til the insurance companies start churning out their own "doctors..." |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Exactly |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
121. Not to get snarky but they don't have to do that... |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
54. I am also with the M.D.'s on this. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
56. It's a turf war. All about money. MDs are afraid that nurse practitioners will glut the market |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #56 |
78. Is that really all that NPs make? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
92. Agree. Problem is, the NP's scoop up the easier patients |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
59. "Hi. I’m Dr. Patti McCarver, I'm not a licensed medical doctor, but I have a doctorate in medicine" |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
60. If you are in health care and refer to yourself as a doctor, you'd better have "MD" behind your name |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I'd rather be seen by an Osteopath |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Either MDs or DOs can be licensed to practice medicine, which is what you really want to know |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
122. Why? Because you will be offended otherwise? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
65. I have no problem with this |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
66. When I go to see a doctor, I expect to see a medical doctor, and if someone |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
67. She said, "and I'm your NURSE." Do all Americans really have to be treated like imbecils? |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
123. " Do all Americans really have to be treated like imbeciles?" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #67 |
137. +1 |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
69. Academic Ph. D's are not confused with MD's because their paths do not cross. THIS one? IS VERY |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
70. Do the defenders here like "Dr. Phil"'s use of "Dr."? |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
71. I'm studying to be a nurse practitioner. |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. good for you! |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
80. Little people fighting with other little people! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
84. Interesting article. The thing that struck me was the increased requirements |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. credential creep. Soon you'll need a degree to most full time jobs...ooops. already happened. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
89. I have two friends who have their doctorate... |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
91. I didn't spend 6 years in evil medical school |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
93. Well, I agree with physicians on this.... |
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Maine_Nurse (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. Actually, there are nursing practice doctorates (DNP) |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #105 |
141. Good point. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
94. I am with the MDs on this |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. And then who cleans up when the MD's make the mess? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. NPs are agitating to not have MDs supervise them |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #94 |
124. Horsepucky. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. MD's get the more seriously ill and complicated patients |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #126 |
157. It is fair. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #157 |
164. Neurosurgery and high-risk obstetrics have high malpractice rates |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. I can help with that. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #157 |
172. Medical administrators |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. Some of the them are. I would daresay almost all of them. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
95. 1. Nurse practioners are a good thing and we need more of them |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Love nurse practitioners |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
97. Calling themselves a Doctor when they aren't medical doctors is very misleading. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. You also have to add to that the fact that many (if not most) medical |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Yeah, and one would think that hospitals and clinics would have something against this. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #99 |
125. Oh my freaking god. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. You don't understand this at all. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #131 |
138. And nurses having Ph.D.s stop you from doing this...how? nt |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #138 |
147. Nurses with Ph.D.s are NOT the same as medical doctors. |
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KatyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #147 |
156. No shit. Nobody said they were. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #156 |
160. Uh, nurses going into a room and calling themselves "Dr. XXX" is misleading. |
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KatyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. Sure there is. Nobody says there isn't. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #147 |
177. Of course they're not. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #131 |
155. The answer is simple. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
135. Lest we forget what goes into being a practicing MD: |
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KatyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Nurses are hardly secretaries |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #139 |
144. If they want to practice medicine LIKE MDs, pass the MD exams |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #144 |
162. wrong. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. No, that's not like an MD practice. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. do you honestly think that is what a nurse practitioner would do? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #168 |
169. I would hope not. But please don't say the degrees are equivalent. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. so you don't think I'll be competant.Thanks a lot |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Where did I say that? |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
152. Just wait til lawyers start using "Dr." |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #152 |
159. There was a crazy old judge in Houston who did that. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #159 |
173. At least he didn't make attorneys talk to hand puppets |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
161. what about we dentists? |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
176. How do they feel about Dr. Dre? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #176 |
181. They think he just frackin' release 'Detox' already....nt |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #176 |
182. or Dr. Love? Radio host in LA in the 90s. The Dr. of Looooove. |
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tawadi (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
183. Oh, for fuck's sake. Physicians need to get over themselves. |
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