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Mon Oct-03-11 02:51 PM
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Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito -- THEY'RE FREE!!! |
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She is found guilty of defamation against Lumumba. She must pay damages and serve 3 years, which she has already served.
Breaking live on CNN
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:52 PM
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I hope she can sue, or something.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:53 PM
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2. Awesome. Now she can not give a shit about someone else that was murdered. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:54 PM
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11. If she is truly innocent |
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then it is her right not to give a shit about that. As callous as it sounds.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:55 PM
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15. She's proven her callousness with leaps and bounds |
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The callous can rejoice.
:woohoo:
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:58 PM
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21. is callousness a jailable offense? |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:03 PM
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24. No it's not - however, it's a great guage to prove that you're one dismal human being |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:04 PM
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26. Being a dismal human being isn't against the law. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:10 PM
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36. I know, Ann Coulter & Dick Cheney prove that constantly. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 05:49 PM
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52. And certainly not when you're white and wealthy. n/t |
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Mon Oct-03-11 06:39 PM
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56. Sorry, she's only half "guilty" on that score |
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Since she's white, but not wealthy.:eyes:
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:07 PM
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29. dismal does not equal murderer. you are way wrong. |
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39. A dismal human being is one who's miserable that someone innocent is set free. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:40 PM
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44. So you don't care about Meredith Kercher either? |
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Great! You and Amanda can not care together.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:42 PM
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45. Who the hell said anything about that? |
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I'm horribly sad when anyone experiences an untimely death. The difference between you and I is that I don't celebrate when innocents suffer because of it.
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Mon Oct-03-11 04:07 PM
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47. The death of Meredith Kircher is a terrible tragedy. |
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But the false conviction of 2 young, innocent people because of an over-zealous and criminal prosecutor (let's not forget he is sitting in jail now) is also a tragedy.
The real murderer is sitting in jail with only a 16 year sentence. That is another travesty. He should be in alot longer than that.
At least one of these many wrongs has been rectified.
I do hope the Kircher family will someday find the peace they need, and the courage to look at the evidence that has exonerated Amanda and Raffaele.
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Mon Oct-03-11 10:13 PM
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66. How on earth is putting two innocent people in prison for decades benefiting a murdered girl? |
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Not catching any logic in this.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:00 PM
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23. Those who believe in justice can also rejoice. |
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Callousness isn't against the law, as your post illustrates.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:04 PM
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25. As the existance of Ann Coulter repeatedly illustrates. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:05 PM
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27. When did she prove "callousness"? |
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I think you drank the propaganda Koolaid.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:07 PM
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You get railroaded into a life sentence for murder in a foreign land and see how you react....
Obviously, you are one of the ones that assumed her guilty. Probably felt that the Duke Lacrosse team should all have been castrated...
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:14 PM
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38. Here's hoping you don't get jury duty! |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:15 PM
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40. If "callousness" was a crime EVERYBODY would be guilty of it |
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because there isn't a person alive that hasn't been callous at one time or another and that includes you. Unless you're a walking saint self-righteousness doesn't suit you. x(
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:27 PM
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43. And you are showing...compassion??? |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:21 PM
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42. Okay, so how about YOU go to jail for a crime you didn't commit |
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WTF?
Go ahead, show how much you care.
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Tue Oct-04-11 12:03 AM
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70. She never really had a chance to grieve...she was under suspicion almost immediately. nt |
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Tue Oct-04-11 08:51 PM
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77. I recall watching on TV how during the investigation, she was smooching and smiling |
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Forget the grieving. She didn't even have 1 serious moment after the murder... until she was arrested.
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Tue Oct-04-11 09:19 PM
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78. I remember that. It was one time. It looked bad. But remember how young they were... |
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and they explained later what each had said to the other. It was a rare moment where something was said to make things hopefully look not so bleak, as I recall.
They were kids. It was only a couple of minutes. I figured that played a large part in the guilty verdict, even though it has nothing to do with the murder or any evidence. Her "character" was also put on trial. I guess that's allowed in Italy. As if "character" had anything to do with the murder. Seriously, her sex life and general character was an element to be considered.
I'm not sure how well she knew her roommate. But I did read a statement made by her or her sister about the decedent, about how Knox didn't have time really to grieve for her roommate for a long time after the murder because of the all the events going on, the suspicion, interrogations, crucifying her in the press, etc. She was very young. I can't image that she could've dealt with anything like that on any sort of normal level.
If she were guilty, for one thing, and she didn't have a mental condition like being a sociopath, she would've feigned caring for the decedent, and she wouldn't have smiled at all. But she was a young person dealing with an extraordinary set of events, and she was in deep trouble very early on. I would be surprised if she hadn't screwed up and done something not "press appropriate."
That mother in Australia years ago who was convicted for killing her baby....Meryl Streep played her in a docudrama movie...her baby, she said, had been stolen by a dingo on a camping trip. She was partly convicted because she didn't act "appropriately sad and grieving like a mother should" after the baby disappeared. She was released from prison years later, when hikers found her baby's clothing in a dingo den out in nowhere, by pure chance.
How someone acts after a crime isn't evidence of guilty, unless they run. Knox didn't run.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:53 PM
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5. I was watching her on the live feed before the announcement |
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She was in complete hell waiting for the verdict.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:53 PM
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6. Get the eff out of Italy ASAP! nt |
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8. I think they got it right |
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:54 PM
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9. Dang, that was intense! |
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So happy for her and her family.
Does anyone know what happens with her boyfriend now?
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Mon Oct-03-11 07:46 PM
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62. he goes home to his family |
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and presumably resumes his studies.
he has no slander convictions or fines.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:54 PM
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10. So happy to hear this! |
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Her last trial was a complete kangaroo court.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:54 PM
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12. Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! |
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My son attended UW Freshman year with Amanda. He always said she was a good girl and he knew she would never be capable of such a crime.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:55 PM
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13. Get out of there now Knox |
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Italy's justice system is just anti-West and they wanted to convict as a scapegoat.
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Now get the hell out of Italy!!! ASAP!!
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:57 PM
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18. Yeah, that has no bearing in my life. |
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I want to see Occupy Wall Street coverage, not this Casey Anthony-type shit.
Gah. Priorities. :banghead:
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:08 PM
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This has nothing to do with Casey Anthony - probably more in line with Troy Davis.
Damned innocent people - always getting in the way of your protests...
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:13 PM
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37. Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:16 PM
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...logic and all that crap can be very boring.
How have the last 4 years of your life been?? I know of someone that has had a worse time...
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Mon Oct-03-11 04:16 PM
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48. This is all a distraction and you fell for it. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 04:28 PM
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...this is just me being able to deal with multiple topics (many insignificant - some very important) at one time.
I have opinions about Wall Street as well as Sesame Street.
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55. I have opinions about Wall Street as well as Sesame Street. |
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Mon Oct-03-11 07:01 PM
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60. Just because it has "no bearing on your life" doesn't mean it's not of interest to many. |
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I have the feeling that if this were an American MALE being
unjustly imprisoned, you might find it a bit more relevant...I think
many of you boys express automatic disinterest in anything about females
that doesn't get your dick hard.
Tough shit..Life isn't all about YOU.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:57 PM
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19. You're clear for takeoff. |
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Get her the hell out of here right now. Have safe flight!
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:58 PM
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20. Get out of there, NOW! |
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Considering the successor so Mussolini have such prominence in the Italian government, the system is quite openly corrupt.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:09 PM
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34. Uh? Maybe we believe that all political opinion should be allowed |
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in a democracy? There are hundreds of parties in our parliament, some of which are the progeny of the former Fascist party (which, by the way, is outlawed by the 1948 Italian Constitution). Other than that, I - a proud liberal and Italian citizen - have no problem to allow differing opinions and voices in a parliament.
Not sure, however, what this has to do with this case. I am not convinced - based on reading the evidence from sources including Italian and British papers (the U.S. papers unfortunately have a very strong bias pro-Amanda) - that she is totally innocent. I also think OJ did it and that Casey Anthony killed her daughter. But of course, the jury and the judges have decided and the system worked on appeal.
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:59 PM
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22. Arrividerci, Perugia!!! |
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:07 PM
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30. I don't beleive she's guilty, and it does me good to see it o her way. |
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Now get her home and if possible find (or identify) the killer. These people all need relief.
My thoughts are with both families. A young woman died, and that's a tragedy all around.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:07 PM
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31. Great news! I never thought they were guilty. |
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It was a weird prosecution from the start.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:45 PM
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46. I cannot stand to go more than 3 seconds without knowing new things about Amanda Knox |
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I must devour anything and everything Amanda Knox to feel like a normal consumer and member of society. What color is her toe jam? Must have more of the Amanda Knox product. More product. More. More. More!
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Mon Oct-03-11 05:50 PM
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We're thick with it out here in Seattle.
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Mon Oct-03-11 07:37 PM
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61. if this was a man who'd been unjustly imprisoned, maybe you'd be a bit more interested |
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Too many of you boys seem to automatically "dismiss" anything
about women, or a woman, that doesn't give make your dick hard.
Tough shit...It's not all about YOU.
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Mon Oct-03-11 08:48 PM
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63. Way to play the sexism card. |
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Even though not a single goddamn thing I've written even remotely indicates it.
Pretty lame, I have to say.
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Mon Oct-03-11 10:04 PM
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64. That's about as lazy and lame as the repuke charges of "playing the race card" |
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Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 10:06 PM by whathehell
to try and avoid legitimate racial complaints.
Try again.
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Mon Oct-03-11 10:10 PM
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65. Please indicate from my post what justifies the accusation you made. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 10:11 PM by Mojambo
You can't because what you wrote is 100% total bullshit.
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Mon Oct-03-11 11:32 PM
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67. There is a pattern on DU.. |
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News coverage about women who are not politicians is
routinely dismissed by the men here as "uninteresting"
or unworthy of more than five minutes coverage....Usually
they complain about continuing reports of "Missing white girls"
as not being "real news". Although I don't, in the above case,
dispute the racial disparity in reporting such cases,
I really doubt they'd be any more interested if it were women of color.
There's PLENTY of "non-news" news about men -- sports figures for instance -- and
I don't see any beefs about that here..
Don't believe me? Check out the profiles on this thread and
see if it's not the identified MALES who are bitching about their "boredom".
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Mon Oct-03-11 11:51 PM
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68. Again. Please indicate from my post what justifies the accusation you made. |
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Either that or retract what you said in reference to me.
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Tue Oct-04-11 09:35 AM
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What justifies the "accusation" I made is the fact that
you agreed with the other poster ("Indeed..Here in Seattle we're
thick with it") who mocked the news of Amanda Knox as
mere "product", meaning trivial "non news".
My response to him was substantial and he hasn't
denied it.
Perhaps you should read it
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Tue Oct-04-11 06:16 PM
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76. There is not even a hint of sexism there. |
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The fact of the matter is that there is absolutely no gender based implication in either of those two posts. None.
Your evasion is quite telling. Can you show some evidence from either post that wouldn't apply to the story had it been about a man? You can't.
Will you please just retract your totally unsupported accusation so we can move on?
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Wed Oct-05-11 04:30 AM
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79. Sorry, bro, you have to read the post... |
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I gave you two challenges and your inability to respond to those is what is "quite telling".
You can move on anytime you want. I have no reason to retract anything.:shrug:
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Wed Oct-05-11 02:46 PM
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82. Okay, lets try this one more time before I conclude that you just simply fail at thinking |
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I read the post. In fact, lets read it again together because you are seeing something that is simply NOT there.
I cannot stand to go more than 3 seconds without knowing new things about Amanda Knox
I must devour anything and everything Amanda Knox to feel like a normal consumer and member of society. What color is her toe jam? Must have more of the Amanda Knox product. More product. More. More. More!
You assert that what indicates that I was being sexist about this is because I agreed with a poster who, presumably, was being sexist.
In order for this accusation to have merit YOU have the responsibility to show how the post I agreed with was sexist.
Now, please tell me what in the post wouldn't still apply had all this involved an Adam Knox?
Once you can do that, then you can throw around an accusation of sexism.
There's plenty of real sexism on DU and elsewhere. People like you crying fucking wolf so you can try and win a discussion isn't helpful.
Please retract your accusation.
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Wed Oct-05-11 05:35 PM
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83. What makes you think I give a rat's ass about what you "conclude"? |
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Although I'll admit you've evolved since you're now using "please" :evilgrin:
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You can point to absolutely no evidence of sexism.
We're done.
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Wed Oct-05-11 06:05 PM
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We were "done" long ago, bro..It just took
you some time to get it.:rofl:
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Tue Oct-04-11 12:05 AM
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71. Yeah. Like that old guy who was released from rape charges. There |
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was much rejoicing over that.
And posts about the women being raped, beaten up, and murdered in the revolutions in teh Middle EAst. Very few acknowledgements about that (they didn't want the revolutionaries' reputations besmirched, I guess).
I have noticed this pattern.
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I believe others have noticed it too.
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Mon Oct-03-11 06:46 PM
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58. An overturned murder conviction of an American in a foreign prison is legitimate news. |
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and hardly "product".
Get over yourself.:eyes:
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Mon Oct-03-11 06:47 PM
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59. Good for her...I hope the same happens for Sollecito..This was a huge travesty of justice. n/t |
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72. His conviction was overturned, as well. They are both free. nt |
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74. Yes, I realized that when I re-read the thread. Thanks. It's good news. n/t |
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69. This is good news. Now she should get the heck outta that country. nt |
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Oh to be young, white, rich and pretty --
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She's not rich...Sorry.
You might want to do some research before leaping to
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