Dylan Ratigan Made Me Sick Today, Had To Turn The Channel

[rsmith6621]

......The S.O.B. is out there at OWS trying to pimp his own agenda which is not the same as what OWS has in mind. He is nothing but a Republican Thug trying to distract the faithful into believing his bullshit...

I finally saw that from him today....

[valerief]

1. And his own agenda is what? And how is it different from OWS? nt

[flamingdem]

5. He admits that he is a political conservative, he trashes Obama a few times a week nt

[cui bono]

10. That doesn't make him a conservative. Obama deserves a lot of it.

And he trashes the banks and the whole system now from what I've been hearing. I remember something about him turned me off a long time ago but then I saw the clip of when he ranted about the system and started listening to him while at work. I gotta say, he says a lot of the same things said here on DU about the banksters, the money gaming the system, how democracy is broken, he hardly sounds like a conservative.

What specifically makes you call him that? And what has he said to admit to it?

[valerief]

13. So his agenda is trashing Obama? I seem to recall his agenda is trashing Wall St.

He's been hammering away at the thieves stealing our money for years. I appreciate that.

[dennis4868]

25. hell, people here at DU...

irrationally bash Obama everyday blaming him for repub obstruction.

[girl gone mad]

28. Can you be more specific?

What, specifically, has he said or done to "trash" Obama? What has he done to promote the conservative political agenda?

I have read some of his criticisms and found them to be honest and valid, not partisan. He has been a consistent critic of corruption on Wall Street and in Washington.

[TheKentuckian]

38. Conservative is a further distance to the left from neoliberal than the Turd Way

is from the TeaPubliKlans.

Obama deserves to be hit a few times a week since he let's actual conservatives (not the TeaPubliKlan terrorist nutbars) outflank his corporate enabling policies on the regular.

Wherever Ratigan is on the political spectrum, on about every fiscal policy he is far to Obama's left.

[butterfly77]

2. He said he is going to show OWS ...

how to direct their anger. I saw Geraldo and O'lielly,Slannity,Greta,aka Fox and the teabaggers are down there with their proganda,I say bullshit..

[flamingdem]

3. Rec. Ratigan has a suspicious agenda

If you listen you'll hear the anti-democratic rhetoric and the attempt to attract followers to his cause without revealing his conservative (the means republican even if not teaparty) leanings.

He has admitted he's a conservative but there are still die-hard supporters on DU. Yes, he has some good segments but he's not an honest broker.

[FrenchieCat]

4. Yes....Ratigan is quite arrogant and believes that if he jumps in front of a line,

it will make him a leader.....notwithstanding as to where he will try to lead folks.

[Skidmore]

6. Now come on... he's got a fan club at DU.

Cut our fellows some slack.


Ratigan is a self-serving jackass.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

7. I'm not a Ratigan fan but

I think that any positive coverage of this ultra, ultra-important movement is worth a standing ovation. Dylan Ratigan to me is a guy who always tries to blame both sides, left and right. He can never level any well-deserved criticism of the right without feeling the need to also blame the left, even if there's really no equivalency. But in this case, I think he deserves praise for just helping to bring this story to light in the maintream media.

[DJ13]

8. Ratigan's "agenda" is a Constitutional ammedment to remove money from politics

Isnt that something we should all get behind?

[valerief]

15. Exactly!!!! I could give a rat's ass how pompous he is. nt

[Luminous Animal]

21. He is a remarkably poorly written amendment. I think he had a 13 year old who

wants to be a Constitutional lawyer write it.

[DJ13]

23. Huh?

[FrenchieCat]

27. Have you read the amendment?

Can you post a link to it?

[DJ13]

31. Its lower down in the thread

[Safetykitten]

9. Ratigan is dreamy! Especially when he gets all hot and bothered.

[Angry Dragon]

11. Lust is not a good base for politics..........

[Safetykitten]

16. I know, I know....

[canoeist52]

12. "My message is that the government is bought"

His speech at OWS:
What about this is wrong and makes him an SOB?

“My name is Dylan. I live five blocks from here. I think you people are crazy. I love the way you communicate. The world has noticed your voice. You have been here for three weeks, and you should be very proud of what you have accomplished. For fifteen years I worked as a financial services professional. Have you guys said that yet? I can't believe I'm here talking to you. I'm here because I agree with you. I made the decision three years ago to leave the financial services industry. I did that because it was clear that the financial services industry was purchasing both political parties. I believe that the fundamental problem with our collective desire to demand the debate America deserves is that both of our political parties are funded by well-heeled individuals, because they are bought. So I have been asking myself what the hell I'm going to do about this. I have decided that I am going to devote all of my resources, whatever those resources may be, with the knowledge that the decision to devote resources is much more important than what your resources are. I believe that you and every other group of people who know for a fact that the government is bought and are making the decisions to make 2012 the year our voice will be heard. I ask myself -- what do I do with my voice? I look at myself like an angry villager. I am irate. I know that if I cannot harness my personal rage for positive change I will harm myself and not help anybody else. My question to myself has been how do I harness fire in myself? You can either burn yourself in the town square or you can deliver a single a message to your government. My message is that the government is bought. If we do not separate business and state, and harness this energy to make that the central mission of this years' election we cannot begin to do the work we have to do. Thank you for giving me some of your time and congratulations on your success.”

[valerief]

17. Sounds really good to me. nt

[Exultant Democracy]

24. I want to know too, what upset the OP about this message? Looks great to me.

[malaise]

14. No CNBComcst hack can fool me

and while he does have the odd good program, he's first rate opportunistic hack.

[valerief]

18. Is opportunistic a bad thing if the message is a good one? Forget his ego.

Listen to his message.

[malaise]

20. I support OWS big time

without the Ratigans of this planet.

[valerief]

22. Pal, you lost me. nt

[canoeist52]

19. He is supporting this amendment to our Constitution.

"No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, campaign contributions to candidates for Federal office shall not constitute speech of any kind as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution or any amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Congress shall set forth a federal holiday for the purposes of voting for candidates for Federal office."
http://www.getmoneyout.com/?utm_campaign=making_waves&utm_medium=email&utm_source=getmoneyout

Patriots come in many forms. We need every truth speaker we can get to rescue this country.

[FrenchieCat]

30. Is there an expanded version.....

because I don't see anything in there about public funding...at the link anyways.
Wouldn't that mean that only the wealthy could run?

I would need to see more than a "draft" of anything before signing on this....
just in case, there's some (un)intended consequences in there somewhere.
The fine print and the nuance is very important, not just the blaring headlines....

[Exultant Democracy]

26. I wish that democrats were FDR democrats and republicans were Dylan Ratigan republicans

shit I'm even pinning for Bob Dole at this point. You clearly don't understand the political implications of the overton window and why we need more people on the right like him.

[Romulox]

29. "My message is that the government is bought." I guess you attack the messenger

because you can't refute the message. :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

32. The truth can be found in the proposed solution,

rather than in the announcement of a well known problem.

[Romulox]

33. He means OBAMA too. You signing on to that?

"I made the decision three years ago to leave the financial services industry. I did that because it was clear that the financial services industry was purchasing both political parties. I believe that the fundamental problem with our collective desire to demand the debate America deserves is that both of our political parties are funded by well-heeled individuals, because they are bought."

:hi:

[FrenchieCat]

34. Again....

the wording of the amendment that Ratigan is supporting and pushing
is a bit vague.

I understand the problem, and glad that he is on board with that.
He doesn't want any contributions at all, I get that....
But, I don't quite believe his amendment as a solution is
spelled out clearly enough in terms of how candidates would run.
Would there be public financing? Or would the richest candidates
be able to fund their own selves? What are the details, cause I can't
locate them.

[Romulox]

35. Vague wording aside, if you've admitted that the Obama admin is compromised by corporate $$$,

I believe we've made a break through here.

Kudos on your adapting position on the President! :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

36. I think they have been compromised a tiny fraction

compared to others.

But no, this admin isn't perfect, as it's difficult to pass anything meaningful
when one has to have the votes, and when the constituency making the big noise
are against you no matter what you do, while the constituency that was to support
you and provide momentum instead sit around talking on the Internet, but not doing
anything else...till perhaps now with this OWS.

[Romulox]

37. LOL. nt

[valerief]

40. Recently Jimmy Carter told Rachel that when he ran against Reagan, neither had ANY

campaign financing outside the federally provided money. That was when the Fairness Act was in effect.

[butterfly77]

39. Kicked&Recommended...