Obama impeachment a possibility, says Ron Paul

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: Politico

Ron Paul said Monday that President Barack Obama’s targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki might be an impeachable offense.

Asked at a Manchester, N.H. town hall meeting about last week’s killing of the American-born Al Qaeda leader, the Texas congressman said impeachment would be “possible,” but that he wants to know more about how the administration “flouted the law.”

Paul called the killing a movement toward “tyranny.”

“I put responsibility on the president because this is obviously a step in the wrong direction,” Paul said. “We have just totally disrespected the Constitution.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65035.html

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[ProgressiveProfessor]

1. I hate admitting that he might actually have some merit in this one

[ixion]

5. Yep, and if Obama does get re-elected

that will be act 2, in my opinion. The GOP will tie everything up for years, just like they did with Clinton.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. I disagree because he won't be able to run for a third term

They're blocking everything now to keep him from being re-elected. That won't be a possibility in his second term though.

[ixion]

26. we'll see...

that didn't seem to matter at all to the GOP during Clinton's second term.

[No Elephants]

67. Clinton was impeached near the end of his second term.

Discrediting Democrats in general was their goal.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

31. LOL

They already have tied everything up. Too late.

[ProSense]

2. Ron Paul

is a hypocrite and a lunatic.

[MineralMan]

3. Bye, Ron. Enjoy your retirement.

[Mnemosyne]

4. Why? Did he get a blowjob? ass. n/t

[BeyondGeography]

6. You go, Ron

:thumbsup:

[Drale]

7. I find myself getting more and more extreme everyday

I want to say "Ron Paul's head on a bloody pike" is a real possibility but that would go against every democratic bone in my body. Traitors are hung, not beheaded.

[cui bono]

21. Why are you calling him a traitor in response to this thread? n/t

[Romulox]

32. Wow. Cry for help? nt

[krabigirl]

41. Yikes. Maybe calm down a bit.

[Puregonzo1188]

43. Ron Paul is a traitor? Really? Seriously?

[cui bono]

58. You should watch this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#44738223

And also think about how you would respond if Bush had done this and Kucinich had said what Paul said.

[AverageJoe90]

70. I have to agree.

I'm now a bit iffy on the execution myself, but RP is DEFINITELY only doing this so he can get his votes. He doesn't give TWO SHITS about any REAL problems that may have occurred, Constitution-wise.

[texastoast]

8. Is it too late to impeach Bush for causing all the Iraqi deaths based on lies?

I would certainly argue shilling for a war with a false target caused many more deaths, not only of the "enemy," but our own soldiers. Will those bastards ever have to pay for that?

:grr:

[Kingofalldems]

9. Unrec for posting what RW repubs think

[The Magistrate]

10. By All Means, Sir: Let Him Do So: It Will Be Rum Fun

[mac56]

13. My thoughts exactly, sir

:thumbsup:

[AndyTiedye]

11. I Rather Expect the House Will Impeach Obama, Of Course the Senate Won't

The House probably will impeach Obama, keeping up the tradition they started with Clinton.
That will give the Mighty Slime Machine the excuse to air their continuous attacks on Obama as "news"
and take the oxygen out of anything the Democrats have to say (since there simply won't be any time
left in the news cycle for it).

Of course, impeachment will go nowhere in the Senate, just as it went nowhere when they impeached Clinton.
The purpose of impeachment is all the Tee Vee time they get (and that only works for Republicans).

[No Elephants]

68. The Senate never impeaches, only the House. The Senate either acquits or find guilty.

[Diclotican]

12. Stubbs

Stubbs

But, waging two wars on false evidences, trupet up evidencense, and ruin the economy in the US in the prosess are NOT an Imeachment posibility??????

Ron Paul, and others, why dosen't be honest and tell it as it is. You dosen't want the F*** N**** in the white house, at least not as the President.. Maybe as a servant, but not as the LEADER of the "free world". I rembember from the night when it was clear, that the next US president would be a black man.. The shock and awe in many in CNN Atlanta was showing all the way up to little cold Norway.. And it have been a theme for the last 2.5-3 years, that many dosen't want a black man in the white house...

Diclotican

[Dutchmaster]

40. Ron Paul wanted to impeach Bush. If you recall, Pelosi wouldn't bring it to the table.

Convenient of you to forget that.

[Diclotican]

46. Dutchmaster

Dutchmaster

I do rembember, that Ron Paul wanted to get Bush impeatched too.. On a far better ground than Obama by the way.. But as we all know, after a wrinling in the political corridors, anyone in power desided not to go forward, as it was not enough time to impeatch mr Bush jr in 2007/08

So no, I have not forgot the fact that one man wanted to get Bush jr impeatched.. But I also rembember that the whole of the conservative field was out in arms, over the mear thingking about impeaching mr Bush. In fact a few I knew on some other forums, was pretty clear about it all. It was just revange from when the GOP wanted to get to Clinton in the Lewinsky affair..

And I also do rembember, that The speaker Pelosi blunked, and desided it was not worth it to impeatch mr Bush, for the crimes he had given the US over the last 8 year.. If anyone in modern times should have been impeached it was mr Bush Jr. Sadly it was never the case, even tho I guess the truth about the whole Iraq affair, would have been known for a far larger publicum if he had been. Even if he never was jugded, the truth had been out at least...

This is just political play for mr Ron Paul, nothing more... And it wil end as it id with mr Bush, in nothing.. Absolutely nothing.. This is just a distraction from more important thing the US president have to work with.. And my best advice would be just turn the blind eye on mr Paul, and don't respont to what he say.. The President of USA have far more important things to do, than to use important time to clear his name when nuttjobs like Ron Paul is opening his mouth.. After all, mr Obama is trying to not let the dam ship sink on his watch.. You have maybe convenient forgotten what a mess the Republicans was giving mr Obama to clear up in 2008??

Diclotican

[Freddie Stubbs]

47. Ron Paul could have introduced articles of impeachment against Bush. But he didn't

[Freddie Stubbs]

44. It's not race. It's party. Ron Paul supported impeachment for Clinton

[Diclotican]

49. Freddie Stubbs

Freddie Stubbs


Yea, and the sun are staring to shine in the West every morning... :sarcasm:

The only reason he supported impeachment for Clinton, was becouse, and many other belived that it was a posibility to make the president fall.. For something that REALLY was between Mr Clinton and Ms Clinton and the presidental familiy.. The whole affair was a farce from the start to the end.. And important work was stalled becouse of it...

And then we all got Bush jr in 2000.. After that, the whole world was going down hill, specially the US I would be so bold to say..

Diclotican

[Freddie Stubbs]

52. Ron Paul cosponsored articles of impeachment against Clinton BEFORE the Lewinsky scandal broke

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=105_cong_bills&docid=f:hr304ih.txt.pdf

[Diclotican]

56. Freddie Stubbs

Freddie Stubbs

Still, it dosent help to mutch that he did it, and that he contined to support a impeachment against President Clinton when the Lewinsky affair broke.. It was known, long before he even got into a public office, that Mr Clinton was a man, who liked womans, all he way back to Arkansas he was "famous" for his grasp on managing get woman to like him... (I wish I had 1/3 his sharm when it came to woman, than I would be a verry glad man I guess)

But then, to my defence, I was still in high school the first year mr Clinton was in office.. And I have to say I had other things to interst myself into, than to follow intern politic, in a country on the other side of the atlantic.. This was long before Internet was common you must rembember. And information was not as instant as it is today - at least not in our house, where we until 1994 just had one TV channel, Radio and news paper.. (and a LOT of books) I got my first computer in 1996.. and internet in 1997.. And even then for the most part I was reading the news in news paper, rather than following it online!.. I had a Dial Up, and it was somewhat expensive to sit on the internet all day... It got sheaper when I got ADSL....

Diclotican

[Dutchmaster]

14. Yet you all want Bush & co. to be held accountable for breaking the law .

but it's okay when Obama does it. Oh wait, Bush & co. made it legal to do targeted assassinations of Americans with no trial. I guess it's cool that Obama is doing it then.

[mac56]

15. Oh yeah, I clearly remember the 24/7 coverage

of the impeachment hearings against W. How all of his lies and deceit were aired and exposed for all the world to see.

Oh, wait...

[Maccagirl]

19. Yes,, I do want Bush & Co held accountable

so when he goes to trial, so can Obama-will that satisfy you?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

34. "Impeachment is off the table" - Nancy Pelosi

I'm done being held to a "higher standard".

[AsahinaKimi]

16. Impeachment, Impeachment, Impeachment...

Gawd I hate Republicans.. All of them getting siffys and drooling over the possibility! Doesn't anyone realize that if Rush Limbaugh has an Organism, he will take out HALF THE STATE of FLORIDA?????


Did I mention, I hate Republicans?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

35. Sadly, there are folks here ready help facilitate.

They aren't Republicans, just fucking idiots.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

53. LOL!

:rofl:

[Art_from_Ark]

65. Here's a song dedicated to you, Kimi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWzyjVUGtC0

[PeaceNikki]

17. Fuck Ron Paul and his creepy cultist followers.

Handy that subject line is in my cache.

[Safetykitten]

18. and monkeys may fly out of Ron's ass too.

[GreenStormCloud]

20. Won't happen. The GOP got badly burned when they tried it with Clinton.

They won't try it again, especially with an election this close and Obama looking very vunerable.

[Major Nikon]

24. Since when has that ever stopped them?

If past fuck ups were a limiting factor to wingnut actions, they wouldn't have much else to do.

[No Elephants]

69. Past political failures have stopped Republicans. Democrats, too.

Sometimes, more than they should

[ixion]

29. How did they get burned?

because they don't appear to be all that crispy.

[NYC Liberal]

48. They lost seats in the House in the '98 midterm elections and

lost seats in both the House and Senate in 2000. And their presidential candidate won only because five Supreme Court justices handed it to him; the country rejected Bush.

[ixion]

50. heh

okay, whatever you say.

[NYC Liberal]

54. Look up the election results. Are you disputing them?

[ixion]

55. No,

I'm disputing that it constituted a significant 'burn'. Further, we're in much different times than we were in in '98, and 2000, for that matter.

And further than that, an extra judicial assassination is very different from a blow job.

[ceile]

23. And Bush's crimes weren't?

ugh.

[ixion]

27. Of course they were

but we've seen how political true believers use a double-standard, right here on DU. This IS the caveat of placing your 'team' before the common good.

[dtexdem]

25. Of all of the things Repukes might come up with to push impeachment, ...

this is one of the most stupid. I sort of hope they try.

It has nothing to do with the legality of the action -- it would just not be a winner with the public.

[ixion]

30. It would be a winner with their base

which is all they're concerned about.

[msanthrope]

28. I wonder what Ron Paul's DU name is....nt

[McCamy Taylor]

33. ROFLMAO

Not in the U.S. House it isn't.

[lindysalsagal]

36. It's possible, right after Ron Paul is elected president, and this happens:

[AverageJoe90]

71. Hell froze over!

Hell, Michigan, that is. LOL. :rofl:

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

Puck Ron Faul

Ayn Rand loving scumbag......oh, wait......we should be "listening to his concerns" according the "can't we all just get along" crowd.

[sad sally]

37. It will never happen. The precedent for a President's actions regarding

the never to end war on terror, precedents that include torture, rendition, waging undeclared wars on any country or people suspected of terror, attacking targets with enhanced mechanical weaponry, assassination, bankrupting the country to support the mic, as all these actions become accepted and therefore declared by the government as being legal, no current or future President will ever be questioned, let along impeached.

The United States is in a new phase - a very scary one.

[TheKentuckian]

38. They might try to Impeach Obama but it won't be for this.

The TeaPubliKlans have zero interest in ending these extra-constitutional powers nor mitigating the unitary executive. They just hate blacks and Democrats and despise anyone who is both but it won't throw them off their long game of full on fascism in America.

[Capitalocracy]

51. Yep. They'll impeach him for literally nothing before they do for this.

At least Ron Paul said the same about Bush, showing some internal consistency (although his response to the let him die question at the debate more than proved him a liar in my book).

[Snotcicles]

39. If we are going to start impeaching lets do it in chronological order. nt

[krabigirl]

42. What is unfortunate is all of the democrats supporting and cheering this on really.

[cui bono]

60. Yes, it is unfortunate that people wanting to uphold our constitution have to have this particular

gripe with a Democratic president.

But I think your use of the term "cheering" is quite misguided. No one is happy about this. I'm pretty sure we're all sickened. Those of us who understand how wrong this presidential action is anyway. We are sickened no matter what party does it.

The other really unfortunate thing is that there are people who actually defend Obama's actions.

[OmahaBlueDog]

45. I dare you to impeach him for targeting an Al Quaeda terrorist for assasination

Bring it on, Ron.

[cui bono]

61. An American citizen. Who was never tried and convicted.

Watch this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#44738223

[stevenleser]

57. I could see Paul and the 'pug House doing something like that to take the focus off of OWS

and/or hurt Obama's re-election prospects. Sounds like the kind of twofer the GOP likes to pull.

[buckrogers1965]

59. Reading the posts here...

It seems like extra legal assassinations are ok, as long as a president of your party does it to someone they say is your "enemy."

What is wrong with arresting and putting people on trial? Letting a judge and jury decide, like the constitution says?

[cui bono]

63. Exactly. Such knee jerk reactions defending assassination of an American citizen

without due process. Sounds a lot like another group of people who everyone on here makes fun of all the time.

[Fearless]

62. Its funny how we can take a topic like this which we both agree on...

In theory... that American citizens should not be able to be shot by Executive Order, rule of law, justice, etc.... And we can hold two completely different ideologies on what is right and what is wrong with this country.

It's clearer than ever why voters don't vote for their best interests. They don't look past the title of the book.

[Whisp]

64. Ron Paul is a snakeoil salesman.

to all those here that agree with him, be sure what's in that vile/vial he's selling. He depends on stupidity.

[brettdale]

66. Oh dear

they are grasping at straws arent they.

[BlueIris]

72. I'm shocked he hasn't been served with articles by this point.

What with crazy Tea Baggers run amok and all.