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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:20 AM
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Sometimes, our "culture" is just too fucked-up for words.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:22 AM
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:24 AM
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2. bravo!! spot on, my friend.
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 12:24 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
:applause:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:25 AM
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3. No shit. It's obscene.
K&R
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:27 AM
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4. Corporations are the only people that matter, and Wikileaks isn't a corporation.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:20 AM
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15. I'm just getting around to reading Howard Zinn's "People's History of the United States"...
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...and I believe he says that by the 1870's, the Supreme Court
had essentially declared corporations' "personhood" and that the
14th Amendment, basically intended to protect the rights of
African-Americans, had been invoked in about 18 lawsuits
involving them -- and 228 involving the "rights" of corporations.
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Nothing hew here. Move along, folks.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:20 PM
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21. You'll notice the repeating theme with that book, MFM...
... Amazing that beginning with the arrival of Chris Columbus, it just keeps repeating and repeating, and repeating..... over and over and over.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:51 PM
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28. I am ashamed that it took me so long to read. I gave copies of
that book to everyone in the family - and some friends - for Christmas this year!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:42 AM
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5. ...
:thumbsup: k and r
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:47 AM
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6. Right on !
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:47 AM
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7. K&R. (nt)
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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:50 AM
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8. Excellent! n/t
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 12:56 AM
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9. Nothing placed on Facebook is private
And if people think it is then they are delusional.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:45 AM
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12. Exactly. nt
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:16 PM
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20. Since corporations involve more than one person nothing they do is technically "private" either.
I think the term "privacy" in this context refers to the amount of control people have over the scope of transmission of their information.



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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:41 AM
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10. the k und the r


wunderbar!


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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:38 AM
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11. America doesn't have a culture, it has an economy.
or what's left of one.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:30 AM
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14. Ding ding!
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 07:31 AM by Ghost Dog
But, there's always jazz, blues and rock & roll.

Oh, and Hollywood. :)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 03:06 AM
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13. Money so they say is the root of all evil today...
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:21 PM
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22. Today? That quote appeared in the 1st epistle of Paul to Timothy in the New Testament
Almost 20 centuries ago. Also in the old testament, usury (aka banking) was one of the big sins.


So it seems to me "same as it ever was..." ;-)
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:31 PM
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24. The quoted variation is from Money by Pink Floyd
It is a lyric.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:50 PM
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27. D'oh
I guess I wasn't in the hi-fidelity first class travelling set ;-)


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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:28 PM
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30. I think they put the "today" and the "so they say" in to make it rhyme...
K&R for the OP. Not much else to add, it says it all.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:56 PM
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45. Dark Side Of The Moon FTW
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:07 PM
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63. No it wasn't.
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 04:08 PM by L0oniX
It's "the -love- of money is the root of all evil".
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:07 PM
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62. The most miss quoted phrase in the history of communication. Thanks.
It's "the -love- of money is the root of all evil". Money is not evil in and of itself ...obviously.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:22 AM
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16. There is no justice.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:29 AM
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17. Recommend
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:52 AM
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18. May the Good Lord provide for them.
Freedom for Assange.
Ass cancer for Zuckerberg.
Amen.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:38 PM
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19. A BIG K AND R!!!!
Our 'culture' sucks. BIG TIME!
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:22 PM
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23. Nothing short of brilliant.
As always, your posts never disappoint!!!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:35 PM
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25. Oh SNAP! +1,000!
That is brilliant. Wow, I'm floored.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:42 PM
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26. private information is not required to use facebook.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:09 PM
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29. people are stupid, rain is wet. ...still
The irony holds
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:13 PM
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35. Corporations and govs are not required to use secrets to operate either
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 07:15 PM by liberation
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:43 PM
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58. You think.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:46 PM
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31. for a private person
like me, the whole concept of "Facebook" is as alien and repulsive as roller skating butt naked through the Mall of America shouting out my social security number.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:51 PM
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33. Well said!
A superlatively creative expression of my own thoughts re Facebook. :D

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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:14 PM
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36. Hey! Don't knock off naked roller skating throught he Mall of America...
... until you try it ;-)
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:26 PM
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40. GEEZ........ ........
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...I do that once...
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...ONE time...
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...and I'm labeled for life!!!
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WAIT!!!
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That wasn't SKATING!!!
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Paka Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:53 PM
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43. Privacy & Facebook
Amen to that!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:46 PM
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32. Not equivalent
classified information is different.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:12 PM
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34. Indeed, the latter has more vowels than the former
... so totally different and stuff.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 10:32 PM
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47. True. One protects the individual from the criminals. The other protects
the criminals from the masses.

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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:19 AM
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53. Stupid post.
My personal information is supposed to be classified.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:39 PM
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55. So if Julian decides to leak your personal information
That'll be OK? because he's the hero and stuff.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:46 PM
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60. Why bring up a doofus "example"? It is FAR more likely that FB will reveal your ID and perusings.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 03:26 PM
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61. Keep off FB
People voluntarily put the information there. For their own purposes. FB doesn't charge $$. That is the price.

Just a silly comparison. Julian steals information people expect to be private. The other guy uses what people voluntarily give him in a public place.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:44 PM
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59. The avaricious First Lady of Tunisia SOOO agrees with you!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:22 PM
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37. It sure seems like something is not right....
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micraphone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:29 PM
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38. Absolutely Spot On
Corps, see middle finger salute!
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 10:24 PM
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:08 PM
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39. Genius!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:34 PM
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41. The k and the r
ptoooey on the so-called man of the year
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:35 PM
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42. K&R n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:54 PM
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44. dupe
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 08:55 PM by Initech
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 10:41 PM
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48. War = Peace n/t
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 10:48 PM
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49. Never have registered as a member on FB
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 10:49 PM by Urban Prairie
When it first became popular, I thought that it would only be appealing to those looking to network for better/new job opportunities or promotions, and I wasn't in that category. However, I was a seller on eBay and Amazon for a period of several years, and they were the only internet websites where I ever had to reveal my true identity and location, in order to make sales, and I managed to maintain a perfect seller rating on both. It was not easy to avoid getting negative feedback, because my wife and I were desperately struggling to make ends meet during those years, her career job had been outsourced, and I was waiting to receive approval for my disability retirement, and was quite ill during almost the entire time.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 10:51 PM
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50. All the wonderful sounding words:
..."rule of law" "the presumption of innocence" "liberty and justice" "a government of, by and for the people" -- are just that -- nice sounding words.

Still, I suppose that it is a good thing to see that we are slowly but surely opening our eyes to these facts and are coming to understand that we live in a fascist police state. A state where the banks own everything -- but only by virtue of our sufferance -- only because we say they do -- only because we allow them to rob us blind.

- Because this is what they do......

K&R


"The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent."

~John Kenneth Galbraith
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 11:37 PM
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51. +400
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:16 AM
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52. K&R! nt
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:20 AM
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54. + a million.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:41 PM
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56. Actually, I'd replace both of them with
a picture of the Disinterested Citizen who gave his rights away to be a consumer.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:43 PM
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57. And THAT is EXACTLY WHY Assange was not MotY.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:08 PM
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64. Specifically it's the economic system. Spot on though. K&R nt
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