Herman Cain needs a reality check. The rethugs will never allow him to become their candidate

[mfcorey1]

for President. They will choose Romney before him.

[Kennah]

1. I think in either case, there's a strong chance of a far right 3rd Party Candidate.

Maybe it's Ron Paul's year to get 15% of the Rethug vote as a Third.

[BlueMTexpat]

2. Anyone who has been paying attention knows that today's.

GOP will never, ever select him as their candidate.

But let him enjoy the moment while he can. It may be the highlight of his life. :evilgrin:

[the other one]

3. Keeping the heat off Romney

Pay attention to anyone except the real nominee. Perry, Crispie, Crazy Eyes...now Cain.

I think Huckabee didn't run because he was promised the VP slot if he didn't say anything negative about Willard.

[TexasTowelie]

4. Not likely.

Some of the animosity from 2008 is still there for Huckabee. Romney is the last person that Huckabee would support.

[Bucky]

6. Second to last.

Huck didn't run cause he thought Obama would win no matter what. He wants to come back and be the savior of the conservative movement. He may not like Romney, but he'll do everything he can for the Republican nominee, if only to gather up chits for his own run in 2016.

[MrSlayer]

18. I believe you are correct here.

Romney has to look like the only logical choice to go up against the President because he really is. The other loony toons will get smashed in a general election. Don't you think he has to go hard right on the VP side to get the whackos in line though? Huckabee makes sense in the real world, so does Christy but I think they need a fire breathing teabagger type on the bottom of the ticket for Willard to get any traction with the base. There is an outside chance that the far right will throw in a third party candidate and gum up the works. A slim chance but a chance nonetheless.

[Bucky]

5. I dunno. If he manages to get thru the primaries they might treat him like Dubya

You know, saddle him with a VP who'll really run things in the way K Street, the Chamber of Commerce, and Halliburton want.

[Orrex]

7. I think that they'll keep him around long enough to be able to claim "See, we're not racist."

Then they'll toss him aside at the first opportunity.

[malaise]

8. He knows

but someone is paying him to try to divide Afro-Americans.

[KeepItReal]

9. JC Watts was a rising star and they shut him down

"Herb" Cain is just the flava of the month

[MrDiaz]

10. I don't know about that

I know some repukes here at work, and some family, and they want Cain... I live in texas and these are the same people who voted for Perry. I am not saying this is going to happen, but i wouldn't completly rule him out.

[liberal N proud]

11. None of the current candidates will be the nominee

[IndyPragmatist]

12. I'm seeing more racism here than I do from the republican party these days

Cain is winning all the polls but the only thing you hear on DU is "He is black, it wont happen." There is a good chance that we may see a presidential election between two black men. Not many people ever expected that to happen anytime soon. But no, I log on to DU and what do I see. I see more people criticizing Cain and playing the race card here than I see from the Republican party.

News flash: the majority of Republicans don't care what race Cain is. They like his policies. They like his little 9-9-9 plan. They like that he has run a business.

But nope, he is black. No way he has a chance.

My father, a black man, supports Cain. My mother, a white woman, still supports Obama. Everyone says Cain is an Uncle Tom. Does that mean my father is an Uncle Tom.

I would really like to know this because it has become very clear that no educated black man could ever be a republican or support a republican. Those that do are turning their back on the black community, right? So my dad is an Uncle Tom?


My father hardly ever supported Democrats at the local level, because the county democrats, in his opinion, have been using the blacks in Indianapolis as pawns to win elections. He routinely supports Democrats at the national level, but not in Indianapolis. They spend the entire election in black neighborhoods and talking about black issues, but as soon as they get elected, they completely disappear. I'm told all the time that I don't understand what black people went through because I took a lot more after my mom than my dad. I don't bother to explain that my father is black because those people would just find another way to discredit my beliefs.

It's just really sad to see so many people wanting cheering for black man to fail because he is a republican.

[lunatica]

15. Start you own thread if you want this to get traction

Otherwise it is lost in another thread and only a few will read it.

Just be ready to defend it because you're saying DUers are racists. Good luck. Sincerely, I mean that.

[Obamanaut]

16. Response 15 is correct - this needs to be read by more folks. I agree with you. nt

[mfcorey1]

17. If you believe all of that you posted, the land I have in China is for sale.

[IndyPragmatist]

19. I completely believe it. You only want blacks to succeed if they are Democrats. I get it.

I forgot that MLK dreamed of a land where people would be judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character, as long as they are Democrats.

Was Michael Steele also a Rovian plant? Was he just a big scam to hide the racism in the Republican party?

Whites can be any party they want, but blacks can only be Democrats. Oh what freedom! If you are black and not a Democrat, you are just an Uncle Tom. You are being played by the Republican party.

It makes me sick that you would want to limit the opportunity of african americans in politics. Maybe during the election, we should have separate whites only and blacks only ballots? Whites can vote for whoever they choose, but the blacks only get to choose from the Democrats on the ballot.

[GreenStormCloud]

20. Good post. Hope you have flame-proof underwear. N/T

[Erose999]

22. The reason they like Cain is because he's not one of the ones they consider "uppity". They hate the

Obamas because the Obamas don't "know their place". They give Michelle Obama all kinds of gruff for merely suggesting that feeding kids greasy fast food leads to childhood obesity. She can't even recommend guidelines without being shat upon by the rightwing.

And also, remember the racist signage from the Tea Party events of the past 2 years. These are the hardcore Republicans who go to events and participate in straw polls. And apparently these are the people who are supporting Herman Cain.

[pecwae]

26. Very poignant post.

I hope a bit of it gets through to those who need to understand it.

All the best to you.

[IndyPragmatist]

27. Thank you. I don't support Cain for President, but I support his efforts

This sort of stuff helps prove Cain right when he spoke about the Democratic party trying to brainwash the black community. I don't agree with the whole brainwash thing, but there is an obvious stigma on a black man who supports the Republican party.

I personally believe that the policies of the Democratic party help the black community in general. But African Americans are not a mindless group of zombies that cannot think for themselves. Whenever I met a black republican, they are very smart. That by no means is saying that black democrats are not smart, not even close. But it's rare for a black person who doesn't pay attention to politics to be a Republican. A black republican usually follows politics closely and has realized that they do not agree with the policies of the Democratic Party. Because of the stigma against black republicans, it's rare to find them. You aren't going to find many black republicans that can't fully articulate the reasons why they believe what they do. It takes a bit of courage to be a black republican. You know that, as shown in this thread, some will attack you and claim that you are betraying your people. My father always told me to be proud of my African heritage, but remember that it does not define me. My first 2 years of college, I believed I was a libertarian leaning republican. My ideology has evolved since then, but I thank my father for giving me the courage to develop my own opinions without fear of being called a traitor to my own race.

I just hate hearing people talking like all black people should think alike and vote alike. The black community in our country is very diverse.

[lunatica]

13. I still think he's a Rovian plant

If it doesn't make sense, and the Cain popularity doesn't, not with what we know of the Republican Tea Party, and it stinks to high heaven of lies and manipulation, then that's exactly what it is. Even the name of Rick Perry's hunting ranch conveniently finding it's way into the MSM is just a little too coincidental.

[malaise]

14. Ding ding we have a winner

:hi:

[peace frog]

21. But of course, he's a RW shill

Teabaggers/Republicans, RACISTS??11! **Swoon, clutch the pearls:: How DARE you suggest such a thing!!1!
:rofl:

[RZM]

23. Cain might end up as the Howard Dean of this cycle

Somebody who came out of relative obscurity, got attention and support from the party's base, did respectably on the stump and at the polls, but couldn't get over the finish line because the more established mainstream candidate was just a bit too much for him.

I would put my money on Romney too, but much like Dean, I think Cain's will have made his mark and increased his prestige when the primaries are over.

His good fortune might start to run out soon, but who knows. It's not outside the realm of possibility that he could give the Mittster a real run for his money.

[Blue_Tires]

24. He was never planning to even get the nomination, like 99 percent of the rest

Cain just wants some publicity and to rake in some paltry campaign funds...Once it's all over he'll take his title of "former presidential candidate" and probably be a regular on the cable news shows, lecture circuit, or even ghostwrite a book...

He's also a useful idiot because it allows the teabaggers to bring out the 'we're not racist' canard...

[polly7]

25. I don't know anything about his policies or beliefs

but just personality-wise, he's got them all beat, jmo. He comes across as very open and approachable. If they're just using him, I think it could backfire.