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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:09 AM
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Chris Matthews Calls Out Batshit Crazy NRA Leader LaPierre's "Crazy" Obama Conspiracy Theory
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109280012

Chris Matthews Calls Out NRA Leader LaPierre's "Crazy" Obama Conspiracy Theory

September 28, 2011 11:52 am ET by Chris Brown

On yesterday's edition of MSNBC's Hardball, Chris Matthews criticized National Rifle Association executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre's recent comments at the Florida Conservative Political Action Conference suggesting that President Obama was secretly plotting to "erase the Second Amendment." Matthews noted LaPierre's comments were of "another strain of the crazy far right" and said they sounded like "civil war" talk.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:10 AM
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1. When are NRA members going to realize they are always lied to by their leaders?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:12 AM
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2. LaPierre is just whoring for a headline
and despite all the truth to the contrary, he knows the 'scary kenyan muslim coming for your guns' talking point will still get people in a tizzy...
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:14 AM
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3. yet we have an entire forum of members that will defend NRA & LaPierre....
Can anyone explain that to me? Anyone?
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:16 AM
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4. Clinton was also "going to" erase the 2nd amendment, then he was "going to"
REALLY do it during his second term. He must have forgotten to do it. :sarcasm:
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 11:55 AM
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20. i still haven't gotten my guns back since clinton confiscated them
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:24 AM
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5. Funny how there's never, EVER talk of a Republican president "erasing" the 2nd Amendment.
It's always Democratic Presidents. Funny how that works. Or not.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:26 AM
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6. I am pro-gun and hate the NRA! They are only a extreme right wing group. They....
want the GOP voters scared so they can collect more money.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:31 AM
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7. Has Obama ever done anything re guns? I can't recall anything,
but these characters have the dimwits scared to death he's coming for their guns.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:35 AM
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8. No he hasn't but they have an answer for that as well
According to LaPierre the fact that Obama hasn't made any attempts to do away with the 2nd Amendment just proves that he's planning to do so. And soon.

And the idiots just lap it up. I'll try to find a link.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:55 AM
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10. Creme-de-la-batshit-crazy Lapierre's gun grab theory explained
This is funny as hell until you realize his shit-for-brains minions believe this BS

NRA Chief: Obama Trying To Steal Your Guns By Not Stealing Your Guns



Here’s a novel theory from the terminally paranoid crackpot head ogre at the NRA: President Obama’s refusal to steal all of their guns is really just his massive conspiracy to steal all their guns. This is how it works: Obama lulls all of the gun owners into a perilous sense of security by never proposing gun control legislation of any kind during the course of his entire term and even helpfully neglects to reinstate Bill Clinton’s pansy-ass elitist assault weapons ban, and THEN — wait for it — while everybody is casually making small talk about that hilarious time Bob shot his neighbor for letting his dog poop on Bob’s lawn, WHAM, Obama rocket launches storm trooper Ban Ki Moon and his feared army of U.N. bureaucrats straight at the guns and cold STEALS EVERY ONE OF THEM before setting fire to the Constitution to “erase the evidence.” Really, that’s how it happens!

Probably! We heard this ogre with the fancy name, Wayne LaPierre, complain about the U.N. (Ha ha, we like the idea of Ban Ki Moon as a storm trooper) and then got a little bored with this rambling, fearful speech given to a bunch of gun owners to warn them against voting for Obama in 2012 even though they would never ever vote for Obama and Obama has not tried to still their guns… yet. YET. YET, GUYS.

...

http://wonkette.com/453659/nra-chief-obama-trying-to-steal-your-guns-by-not-stealing-your-guns
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 10:17 AM
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17. Obama has actually expanded gun rights.
The only legislation that he has signed concerning guns was an act to allow carry in National Parks.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:49 AM
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9. I would love to be a fly on the wall as he sits with gun manufacturers and
listen to them discuss how sales are dipping a bit and if he could just wind up the morons again to help sales.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:00 AM
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11. nothing more than an end of the year clearance sale for guns...
these half wit theories or scare tactics are always marched out at the end of the year or at the beginning of the year so gun manufacturers can clear out old inventory.

just pay attention, you will see it's a repeated pattern.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:07 AM
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12. LaPierre reminds me of Rush. They both use tall tales which they
know are lies in order to stay relevant. That's their shtik.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:14 AM
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13. Not much support from the Gungeon regulars this morning.
Ol' Wayne must be falling out of favor.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:39 AM
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14. It's just too painful to see your exalted leader exposed as being crazy as a shithouse rat
Easier just to stick your head in the sand.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:45 AM
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15. NRA should not be allowed as a source on DU
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 10:21 AM
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19. Why
????
I like knowing what lies the NRA is spreading.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 10:11 AM
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16. That A-Hole Left A Robo-Message On My Phone
He was trying to sell me on the idea that Obama was working in concert with the United Nations to disarm THE WORLD. He said something to the effect of, "The United Nations, with the full support of President Obama, are going to pass a resolution banning firearms WORLDWIDE." There was also the usual ramblings about how Obama was going to give up our sovereignty and destroy the United States as a country and leave us under UN rule or some other such paranoid nonsense. I don't even know how this guy takes HIMSELF seriously anymore.

On a side note, what is it about these gun nuts? What is about guns that makes them love their guns more than they love ANYTHING ELSE IN THEIR LIVES? And don't tell me it's about "rights" or "freedoms" or any of that other claptrap, because gun owners have sat idly by for 10 years and watched their own freedoms get taken away without saying a word, so go try to sell that "we're fighting to preserve our freedoms" crap someplace else.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 10:18 AM
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18. Was the NRA's last scare-a-thon too successful?
All those nitwits buying up guns and ammo early in 2009 against the imminent (imminent, I tell you!) prospect of having their precious, precious guns taken away from them by the scary black man and his e-e-e-vil government thugs. And now nobody has to buy anything for a while, and LaPierre's industry pals aren't making quite the profits they did. Time to gin up the scare machine again, and see if the NRA can't get its gullible followers to engage in another wargy of buying.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 12:04 PM
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21. Some of the nit-wits were buying up guns and ammo on their credit cards in anticipation
Edited on Tue Oct-04-11 12:07 PM by NNN0LHI
Then after no one came to take their guns and the bills started rolling in they didn't know whether to shit or go blind. Some of the ones I knew couldn't even afford cigarettes any more.

Don
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 12:19 PM
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22. Factcheck.org and the International Gun Ban Treaty
After a phone call from the NRA I read the following. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/international-gun-ban-treaty/

Q: Has Obama found a "legal way around the Second Amendment"?

A: The administration’s agreement to talk about writing a United Nations treaty to regulate arms exports and imports is a far cry from banning possession of firearms, which Obama says he doesn’t want to do and the Supreme Court has said can’t be done anyway.


FULL QUESTION

Is this correct?

Obama Finds Legal Way Around The 2nd. Amendment and Uses It. The Full Article Here http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

Subject: Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States

⬐ Click to expand/collapse the full text ⬏

FULL ANSWER

We’ve received many queries about this chain e-mail, which refers to a proposed United Nations treaty to regulate the global trade of conventional weapons.

Much of what this e-mail claims is simply false. A "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens" isn’t possible under our Constitution, according to the Supreme Court, which held just last year that:

District of Columbia v. Heller, 26 June 2008: (T)he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table. These include the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home.

Furthermore, if an arms trade treaty ever materializes, the administration won’t be able to "bypass" Congress, as the e-mail maintains. All international treaties require the approval of two-thirds of the Senate before they are considered ratified and in effect.

In addition, the idea that a treaty necessarily would make U.S. citizens "subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments," as the e-mail claims, is wrong. Treaties don’t subject one nations’ citizens to the laws of other nations. They do commit governments to whatever actions a treaty specifies, such as ceasing to test nuclear weapons, in the case of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (a treaty signed by the U.S., but never ratified by Congress).

As for this particular treaty: First of all, it doesn’t yet exist. What is true is that the Obama administration, reversing the line taken by the Bush White House, has voted to support a process that could, in 2012 at the earliest, result in a treaty.

more...
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/international-gun-ban-treaty/

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