If the occupy wall street doesn't want the msm to define them

[shraby]

like they've been doing today all day, they need to define themselves loud and clear as soon as possible.
Otherwise, they will be conflated with the tparty, and any other unsavory bunch that can be thought up to throw out to the public and muddy the water.
I don't like to rush them, but this is important.

[trumad]

1. Nah---

It's growing to rapidly that the MSM will be overwhelmed.

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. Yes. The MSM are obsolete, and they can sense it.

[Jim Warren]

2. You fret too much

about the MSM.

If'n it's the winds o' change that's a' blowing, ain't no one stoppin' it.

[Whisp]

4. dupe

[Whisp]

5. you may be right but

I think it's kind of nice for everyone to just freely vent their frustrations over the so many things wrong in the world. I think it may be a bit too early to try to dissect this thing - just let it grow naturally.

The media was never a friend and they will do what they have done, that's expected. Fuck 'em.

Seize the Day.

[Uncle Joe]

6. We can start by redefining what passes for the msm, there is no msm, just the corporate media.

Thanks for the thread, shraby.

[shraby]

7. That we can do, but they have the big microphones on every

t.v. channel and on radio.

[Uncle Joe]

12. That's all the more reason as to why we must define them as to what they are to everybody we speak

to in person or converse with on the Internet.

Only by defining them as being the corporate media to enough people can a more accurate perception of what the protesters in particular and the American People in general are, come to light.

[malaise]

17. Shraby every parent, grandparent and thinking

child identifies with the protesters - they are glad to hear folks speaking truth to power.
Fugg M$Greedia. They hae no choice but to follow the protesters - it's giving them more ratings than following those ReTHUGlosers.

[ixion]

8. It think they've defined themselves very clearly

that people don't want to admit that is something altogether different.

[shraby]

9. You know it and I know it, but there are many people who

don't. Those are the ones the msm will mix the messages for until the message is so garble they can't sort it out.

[ixion]

14. I agree that they will try and obscure and pollute the message

I think the best thing to do is to point out that they are part of the problem, ignore them and keep the movement going forward in it's beautiful non-violent, non-media-labeled way. :)

[tridim]

10. OWS doesn't need the MSM,

It grew in spite of them.

I'm thinking we need to start mocking them every time they turn on their cameras. It doesn't matter what network logo is on the microphone, they're all the same.

[girl gone mad]

11. I disagree.

We should stay somewhat vague right now while the movement is growing. Later on we can start to make demands.

[PeaceNikki]

13. “The American people are saying, wait, we have the boot of corporations on our necks,

and we’re sick of it. This is a significantly coherent message at the beginning of something like this.”

~Russ Feingold

[arcane1]

15. The media is going to "define" them no matter what they say

The unprecedented anti-war marches in 2003 had pretty damned clear goals, and we were "defined" as "hundreds of hippies who hate America and want al Qaeda to win"

The media is still trying to come up with a one-size-fits-all dismissive definition.

[lunatica]

19. Bush also called us a focus group

Someone asked him what he thought of the massive worldwide peace march and that was his answer. He said, "I don't make decisions based on a focus group."

[mdmc]

16. ..

[lunatica]

18. Nope

The need to have everything spelled out in a soundbite so you can 'get it' isn't necessary. Most of us know exactly what they're about and what they're after.