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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 09:11 PM
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Steve Jobs was a man. He is dead now. You are not.
What are you going to do with the rest of your life?
Do you plan to live in the nearly hidden shackles of the most dangerous empire in the history of the world?
How many things do you and I and the rest put up with, simply because we put death on the back burner?
What would you do if in all your actions you remembered that your time here is limited?
Are you going to let what life you have left be diminished by this overwhelming dehumanizing force that treats you like a cold metal part in a machine?

Will you realize that you are the source of power in this world, not paper with numbers and pictures of people long dead?
Will you realize that you are in control of your lives, not people who claim a modern divine right?
Will you realize that wealth flows up, and that you don't want any part of what actually trickles down?
Is this your time? Are you going to change the world? Are you going to really do it this time?
Can it be done peacefully? Will you let your baser motivations overcome your reason and cause you to mold this action in the shape of revenge?
Are ready to realize that this life of yours is about you and the people you know and love, not people you'll never meet?
You are the star in your play, not an extra in someone else's.

I hope you are, I hope you know that you are the ones in control here. I hope you realize that all these barriers are not in reality, but in your heads. The bullets are real. The tasers are real. The batons are real. The paddywagons and jail cells are real too.

But the reason you'd have to use them, that's in someone's head.

We are the ones who have constructed this reality we now face. We are the ones who laid down our burden as citizens. Perhaps we did not know better, but we are having a modern renaissance. A modern rebirth of freedom is now happening.

We must commit ourselves to further actions of non-violence, and in so doing, we will show the contrast between freedom and tyranny.

Declare your independence from this empire of lies: know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

This is your independence day. You're not declaring your independence from an island of people on the other side of an ocean, but from an island of people who've grown so arrogant and so bold they would dare think for one second that they are anything but lucky.

Let's hope that leaves are not the only thing to fall this year in autumn, but that this system of corruption has reached its end, and it falls under the weight of its own deceit, its own lies, its own bullshit.

I urge you to think for yourselves, do not accept what you are told. Think about what you are told in a critical manner. Do not parrot the talking points of others. Think about everything you have experienced in your life. These things make you, in part. They make you unique. What can you offer this time?

Share with people what you've learned in your life, and be willing to listen to what they have to say. Do not believe that you are the only one with all the answers. You have not lived every life, not seen the world from all perspectives.

Be respectful, but especially to those who do not deserve it. Perhaps you will lead by example.

Do not simply cite the words and ideas of those in the past, if those ideas were so great, we would not be here. The people who came up with those ideas and uttered those words did not live in this time. It is important to have a historical perspective, but it is also important to use it as a lesson, not a map.

Many of you are ahead of the nation, you knew this was coming. We all did in some way.

We are finally here.

We shall overcome, once again.

OPCK 6 October 2011
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:16 PM
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1. When I die, I wish I could realize 1/1000 of what Jobs has done.
The morons/scolds who wish to think he was evil will never accomplish anything in their lives. Funny thing is, Apple would never have been a factor in our lives if I was the representative consumer. Thankfully, I was not. He was an insanely great individual, but people who have accomplished nothing in their lives will fault those who has done something. Sucks to be them.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:05 PM
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2. Apple = win. nt.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:59 PM
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5. One Person's "f'n material crap" are the Tools of Another Person's Trade
Apple's highest marketshare is among artists and musicians, most of whom don't have a lot of money.
We use them to create.
This is a market that Apple has long targeted, while other PC makers have mostly ignored it.

Electronic musicians also prefer Macs because they don't crash as much.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:15 AM
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7. Hi AndyTiedye!
I've been a dedicated PC user for 30+ years. Let me tell you, Apple's contribution to everything in our lives has not gone unappreciated. True, Apple has innovated and inspired a couple of generations in arts and education...but it goes way deeper than that. The idea of personal computing in the 80's doesn't become a reality without Steve Jobs and Apple providing the products and vision for the future. I had a buddy of mine who built hard wired controllers for his dad's company - making honeycomb rollers used in the paper making industry. His appreciation for Apple inspired him to revolutionize paper process manufacturing technology. I suspect that there were many others who made significant manufacturing/process changes because Steve Jobs had a vision that changed this country. Those that don't understand this are obviously oblivious to what this country was like 40 years ago.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:32 AM
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10. By the way...my same friend started a new company 10 years ago-
making rapid prototypes of 3D objects using his Apple MacIntosh coupled to 3 electric drives that utilized digital positioning encoders to replicate 3D objects developed from CAD files with proprietary software he developed. He's still way ahead of the manufacturing curve...
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:23 AM
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9. Apples cost much more than PCs.
I don't buy your argument for one second that those with no money buy Macs.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:36 AM
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11. The most creative guys I know have been Mac fans.
I've aways been a PC fan because of it's lower cost and open software architecture . But I've never been a creator, just a follower. Does that help explain it?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:21 AM
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15. Actually given the life span of the computer, built in apps, and support concerns for a PC....
Apple comes in much cheaper. But hey, pound your fist into the sand.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:36 AM
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16. I have no money, and I've always had a Mac. You can buy
them used, you know.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:02 AM
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6. Really? You or your family have never benefited from the gifts
Jobs and Gates have delivered? Farming hasn't been radically transformed by computer technology that's increased your yields and helped you maximize profits by making your selling decisions on when to release your product to market? You haven't benefited directly or indirectly from medical/manufacturing/farming technology that has happened because Apple has directly changed computing from the province of mainframe IT control to consumer, handheld applications? I'd almost think you were sincere, except you're probably using the technology that visionaries like Jobs made possible to slam the guy. How ironic.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:38 AM
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17. +1 nt
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:07 AM
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13. .
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:15 PM
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4. And the fact that you think someone has to "accomplish" something to be valuable speaks volumes ...
About you!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:21 AM
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8. I suppose being a mouth breathing sentient being might be an accomplishment
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 12:22 AM by Old and In the Way
enough for some people. But other sentient mouth breathers appreciate people who make a positive impact in our world, in our lifetime. When you accomplish anything of note, please post it at DU so we can acknowledge your contribution to making this world a better place!

By the way, are you scolding us from your Apple or your IBM PC? cuz Bill Gates is just as evil as Steve Jobs! :rofl:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:52 AM
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12. it does kinda suck to be me
I've pretty much always thought so,

but life goes on, Until it doesn't.

Jobs was only 56 and I am already almost 50. What could I possibly do in the next six years so that people would say I was insanely great when I died.

I've probably already got the first part nailed down. I just need something great.

Not much chance I will invent a new gadget. I don't even understand how the old ones work. I'm probably not gonna write a novel, although I've written a couple of short stories and a few essays. My non-fiction work, if I finish it, is not likely to be well received.

However, what does it mean to "never accomplish anything"? What counts as "anything". So far I have cleaned over 16,000 toilets, hoping to pass 25,000. Isn't that "something"? Don't the people who use those toilets appreciate the fact that they were cleaned yesterday?

Certainly I have done many other things. I've bicycled over 25,000 miles. I've researched my family history and have a database of over 290,000 people. I've helped many others research their families too, sharing my research on-line. I've done other things in my jobs. Put together wedding receptions, anniversary and Christmas parties and cleaned up after them too. I've made satellite dishes, industrial motor controls, door frames, and pudding snacks. Lots and lots of pudding snacks. Okay, I mostly packaged them so they could be stored, processed and shipped, except for the four tons of cheesecake that I loaded into the mixer. I've recycled perhaps 500 pounds of aluminum cans that would otherwise be in a landfill or littering a riverbed without my efforts.

I bet everybody who works has accomplished lots of things. Things that often make the world a better place. What about Abernathy? Didn't he accomplish great things at much more personal risk and much less personal reward than Jobs? Isn't he a better example of somebody "insanely great"?

Yes, most of us will live, work, and die without nearly as much fame, power, and money as Steve Jobs, but I don't think that makes him a demi-god and the rest of us pond scum. Martin Luther King, following Jesus, defined greatness this way

"Everybody can be great. Because everybody can serve.

You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve. You don't have to know about Plato and Aristotle to serve. You don't have to know Einstein's theory of relativity to serve. You don't have to know the second theory of thermodynamics in physics to serve.

You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love." - Martin Luther King

I don't think it counts as service when you get $7 billion for your efforts. It doesn't count as service when you get paid that well.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:38 AM
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18. I love your post!
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 02:42 AM by Old and In the Way
Join the 99.99% who are not Steve Jobs! In fact, I think even Jobs realized that life is a crapshoot where winners and losers are more the whim of fate then anything that applied effort could effect. But he did have some insanely great ideas to live a satisfying life. You might appreaciate this..and cleaning 25,000 toilets is a milestone that should be celebrated! Cheers :toast: in advance!



'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says



This is a prepared text of the Commencement address delivered by Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, on June 12, 2005.



I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.



The first story is about connecting the dots.



I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why did I drop out?



It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would someday go to college.



And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.



It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:



Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it fascinating.



None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, it's likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.



Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something — your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.



My second story is about love and loss.



I was lucky — I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation — the Macintosh — a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.



I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me — I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.



I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.



During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.




I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.



My third story is about death.



When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.



Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.



About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.



I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.



This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:



No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.



Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.



When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools and great notions.



Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.



Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.



Thank you all very much.

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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:20 AM
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14. Proud to rec this post. IT's not about Jobs. It's about US!
That said, as a woman who struggles with chronic depression and "imposter syndrome" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome), I find I cannot internalize Jobs' moral lessons, as well-written as they are.


What I can do is share my memories of being an Appalachian kid growing up in the 70s and 80s with no computer exposure whatsoever; getting to go to the lefty hippie college of my dreams through the miracle of scholarships; getting a few big-city internships where I faked my way through the C:/ prompts. (I am actually pretty smart; I can learn anything on the fly if I need it to eat, but OMG am I glad that green text is gone forever) Anyway, long story short, I never really used a computer every day until '91, when UPS broke my typewriter! I had a Senior Project to finish, and I had a friend who was willing to loan me his Mac Classic while he went on internship.

That act of kindness saved my ability to earn a degree before my funding ran out.

I've managed to have a computer of my own (not a given. Always something I have to strive and save for) since about '96 or so, and it's always been a second-hand Mac. I am loyal to Apple because 2nd-hand Macs are damn good machines; my current (which I got for my birthday this year) is about 6 years old and still runs like a dream, it only needed a $100 battery replacement, and I can even watch TV shows on it!




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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:01 AM
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19. It always was about US!
We all have a story to tell about knowledge gained and opportunities lost. Serendipity has made us both winners and losers with no apparent rhyme or reason. It seems to be the common theme we all share. If you read this, read my post upstream that Jobs gave to the Stanford Class of 2005. There's absolutely no validation of a special path, just an acknowledgment to do what you find passion in...no guarantees of financial rewards, just the satisfaction of following the path that fulfills your particular needs. Stay foolish and hungry!
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:26 AM
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20. In honor of Steve Jobs


I leave you with a couple of thoughts:

"If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself."...Hermann Hesse

"In nine times out of ten, the slanderous tongue belongs to a disappointed person."...George Bancroft
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