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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:18 AM
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Brilliant cartoon.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:29 AM
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1. 23 recs, yet not one comment.
I guess this one speaks for itself.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:47 AM
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2. Yeah, it does speak for itself
and it's really depressing.

zalinda
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:49 AM
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3. it just does, you're right.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:46 PM
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17. Stewart Copeland of The Police said
Stewart Copeland of The Police said that no matter how well he argued a position, Sting could write a song that would cut to the heart of the matter better than any argument could.

I guess its the same with political cartoons.

"Russians"

In Europe and America, there's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets
Mr. Krushchev said we will bury you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Russians love their children too

How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy
There is no monopoly in common sense
On either side of the political fence
We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of the President
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore
Mr. Reagan says we will protect you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
What might save us, me, and you
Is if the Russians love their children too
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:47 PM
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20. I always loved that song.
I grew up in the twilight of the Soviet empire. Lots of songs stuck out in this manner. Billy Joel's 'Leningrad'. Scorpion, Wind of Change.

Some good stuff. Examples I usually use in the face of people who think art has no social value.
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icarusxat Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:43 PM
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29. I heard that song and thought
Isn't it more important to wonder if the Russians love the children of other lands. This song came out about the same time the Russians had been accused of dropping bombs disguised as toys to maim and kill Afghan children. Just sayin'
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:49 AM
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4. Great toon.
K and R
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:16 AM
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5. Thank you!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:23 AM
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6. K&R
Says it all...
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:59 PM
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25. My poor grandkids will be taught that creationist crap in KS public school
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:14 AM
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7. k&r
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:15 AM
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8. K&R.
:-(
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:08 AM
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9. greedy humans suck. nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:16 AM
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10. That just about says it all.
Humans SUCK.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:42 AM
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11. k & r
too sadly true.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:51 AM
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12. K & R.
Right into the soup of life it goes.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:53 AM
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13. ttt
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:15 PM
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14. Disposable plastic makes it possible
Another reason to thank BIG OIL -- if they're not leaking directly into the ocean, their products will eventually end up there.

How long before we switch over to 100% to biodegradable plant-based packaging instead?! That would have a significant impact in reducing ocean trash.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:46 PM
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15. Does this mean DEEP DOWN we ALL Hate where we came from????
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:48 PM
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21. I don't think it's hate. Certainly not always. Some people just don't care.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:54 PM
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16. In small numbers it wouldn't be happening.
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 01:56 PM by Gregorian
This seems to be over the heads of most people. They cannot grasp that in smaller numbers we wouldn't be using modern materials, and too many of them. But the real issue is the number of people doing it. We could still be using wood. But our numbers got to be so large, we deforested our supplies. Then came whale oil. Then petroleum. Then nuclear. It's all about staying below the planet's resource equilibrium.

It's the population, stupid.

Great cartoon.

I'm beginning to think it was all meant to happen. Ipads. IBM. Carbon fiber. Our brain has the capacity to do some amazing stuff. We just couldn't stop breeding. And from all of the engineers I've worked with, I can say we are good at creating, but we don't know when to stop.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:06 PM
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27. "we don't know when to stop." +1
The girl who silenced the world for 5 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0&NR=1

Who in there even remember her today, every day?

Zero?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 01:13 PM
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31. I cringe every time I get a reply.
But it seems that lately people are getting it. Thanks for being intelligent. And thanks for the reply. It does help. I'm sure you know what I mean. It's hard to endure this. It's hard to watch. It's hard to speak up and be shot at.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:24 PM
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18. that is brilliant and "Bizzaro" n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:10 PM
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19. I'm confused. Where do the Creationists throw their trash?


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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:56 PM
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24. The Garden of Eden.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 06:23 PM
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26. Yeah, I would've drawn that if I were an artist. =)
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bouwob2 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:51 PM
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22. nice find
Thats awesome
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:53 PM
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23. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, pepperbear.:thumbsup:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:25 PM
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28. This Connection is Untrusted
You have asked Firefox to connect
securely to fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.
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tropicanarose Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:56 PM
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30. That is Lake Michigan after a storm and the Chicago River on a daily basis. Ug
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 09:57 PM by tropicanarose
I should email that cartoon to the Commissioners of the Reclamation here in Chicago.
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