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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:10 AM
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This about sums things up of lately.
"It is cosmically ironic, of course, that the same generation of Boomer-hippies that ran in the streets and marched through the maze of service roads around the Pentagon has become a new "establishment" more obtuse, feckless, greedy and mendacious than the one they battled with over 40 years ago. I guess they just don't see that their time has come to get right with reality - or get shoved aside and trampled. The essence of the OWSer's argument is pretty simple: they've got a raw deal; somebody dealt them a bad hand; someone ran their society into a ditch and not a goddammed one of the older generation will set in motion the machinery to correct the situation, or even acknowledge it.

At the apex of this new establishment is the Baby Boomer's moral trophy president: Barack Obama, whose election made the Boomers feel good about themselves - while they preceded to loot the national treasury's accumulated capital, and then reach forward a few generations to rob their legacy, too. I haven't heard Nicholas Kristoff (or any of his colleagues at The New York Times) complain about Mr. Obama's stupendous inattention to the crimes of Wall Street, or to the dereliction of his proconsuls in the SEC and the Department of Justice. I'd at least send somebody to hold a mirror under Eric Holder's nostrils to see if he is actually alive."

http://kunstler.com/blog/2011/10/here-come-the-owsers.html
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:21 AM
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1. Those boomer hippies are too old, now. They are not the ones in control.
Those boomer hippies are over 70 years old, now.

It's the inbetweens, the ones who inherited a booming economy, civil rights, women's rights, and everything else that the boomer hippies and those before them worked so hard to get. The inbetweens are the ones who are in power.

But in the end, it's not PEOPLE who are in control. It's that our country let some BUSINESS ENTITIES become the most powerful, controlling force in our country.

Business entities are not people. People work for them, but they are mere cogs in the wheel. Business entitites exist solely for the purpose of making a profit. If they don't do that, they don't exist. If their employees, or even CEO's, don't work toward that goal, as well, they're out.

Business entities are the ones who worked children 12 hours a day in the early 20th century, the ones who didn't put safety mechanisms on equipment to prevent injuries to workers, the ones who didn't provide workers who were injured any compensation, the ones who had sweat shops of poor women locked in warehouses from dawn to dusk sewing. Those business entities are now in control. And they're trying to get rid of unions and regulations that were brought about to stop the abuses that the businesses were doing.

They own politicians, dictate our energy policy, set prices, set wages, spill crap in our environment, kill our citizens with bacteria in our food (you know that's murder in some countries; the CEOs of those companies that do that get sent to prison).

We've waited for some reasonable leaders to do justice to the American people. Looks like that's not gonna happen.

I think millions of Americans are tired of it. Sick and tired, literally. Banks and ins. cos. got huge interest-free loans....and then hold lavish parties with the money and dole out huge bonuses to the very people who caused our economy to go into a nosedive and cause suffering to millions of our citizens. No one was held accountable.

We're sick and tired of it. It's not just the protesters. Millions are in solidarity with them. Here's a hats off to the young people who had the hutzbah to start the ball rolling.

:hippie:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:26 AM
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2. The VAST majority of boomers were not "marching in the streets"
They were not hippies, they were not at Woodstock (except when they tell people they were now). It's silly to say that the baby boom generation somehow became complacent bourgeoisie. They always were.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:31 AM
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3. Kiss my butt. that is a broad brush you are painting with
they is a mighty big word. I am a hippie-generation and I was never complacent bourgeoisie.

I will give you that many of my generation tuned out, turned off and ran for the money..but not all of us.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:35 AM
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5. Don't misunderstand me.
Edited on Sat Oct-08-11 11:34 AM by DefenseLawyer
There were plenty of people of your generation that did great things. Took a stand in the face of great odds. But it wasn't ever "most people". It was a small group, when you look at it percentage-wise, of all the people who fall in the "boomer" generation.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:06 PM
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10. You misunderstood what he said
The fact is that the VAST MAJORITY of baby boomers WERE NOT HIPPIES. We were a small minority of the young population, but we made a large impression. We became, some how, the symbol of the 60's. In my class of 300 in high school, I'm guessing only about 10-15 became hippies. Some only joined for the drugs, and never did much.

Unfortunately, I never got to Woodstock, but I remember seeing the news casts on TV and being so proud of the people there. I was invited to go to Boulder with a group that stayed over at our house (sort of like a commune, but it was by Wayne State University), and now I wish I had gone, maybe my life would have turned out better.

It isn't the hippies that turned into the complacent bourgeoisie, it was the others who didn't become hippies. Living a hippie lifestyle showed you how everyone is interconnected, and how we need and depend on each other. I could never see any one who was a true hippie, become a corporate CEO who didn't give a shit about his employees.

zalinda
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:31 AM
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4. Aside from the false equivalency, this writer hasn't been paying attention
to reality. Or, they are deliberately distorting matters. Why?



Obama is not a boomer, nor does he appear to think much of those that paved his way, which to me, says a lot.....



Shushing the Baby Boomers

By JOHN M. BRODER

Published: January 21, 2007


THE time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves.

In taking the first steps toward a presidential candidacy last week, Mr. Obama, who was born in 1961 and considers himself a member of the post-boomer generation, said Americans hungered for “a different kind of politics,” one that moved beyond the tired ideological battles of the 1960s.

To make his point, Mr. Obama, a Democrat from Illinois in his first term in the Senate, announced the formation of his presidential exploratory committee in a video streamed on his Web site. He is tieless and relaxed and oh so cool.

Mr. Obama calculates that Americans of all ages are sick of the feuding boomers and ready to turn to the generation that came of age after Vietnam, after the campus culture wars between freaks and straights, and after young people had given up on what überboomer Hillary Rodham Clinton (who made her own announcement on the Web yesterday) called in a 1969 commencement address a search for “a more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living...”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/weekinreview/21broder.html?pagewanted=all




Why deliberately mislead at this point in time?

Why buy this bullshit?

What is the writer afraid of?

Interesting in a sickly feeling in my stomach kind of way.





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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:03 AM
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6. Nor can he spell...
"...while they preceded to loot the national treasury's accumulated capital,"

WTF?

At least hire a proofreader, buddy! :puke:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:34 AM
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7. Critical thinking. Excellent. Thanks.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:49 AM
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8. Another Boomer bashing thread
Get angry at the people, no matter what fucking decade they were born in, who are accountable. If the author took a look at the culprits he'd find every generation represented. Unrec for posting bullshit.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:51 AM
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9. That's what Capitalism does.

It is a system which rewards and encourages bad behavior, the scum rises to the top.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:10 PM
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11. What bullshit. Same generation, but not the same people.
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