What is it with liberals who STILL believe in the Afghanistan war?

[LadyLeigh]

I thought the issue was pretty much settled: Afghanistan did not "attack the US on 9/11". The hijackers were Saudis and the attack originated from Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden may have been temporarily hiding in Afghanistan, however the Taliban offered to turn him over if presented with proof that he was responsible for the attacks. Thus, the invasion was illegitimate, illegal under international law and based on lies as much as every other war the US has been involved in since World War Two.

Yet, I still keep running into, otherwise deeply liberal, people who say that "Iraq was wrong but Afghanistan was right". Some of whom are even aware of the above things but somehow think that they "don't matter".

I don't get it.

[leveymg]

1. Might have been ok to run in and grab UBL. But, he doesn't live there anymore.

A decade is a bit long just to arrest someone. Oops, I forgot - that wasn't ever the point.

[xiamiam]

2. why are we in afghanistan?

[Warpy]

9. Building and guarding a Unocal pipeline?

That's the only reason I can see for still being there.

The Afghans don't want us nor need us. They likely will have the Taliban as part of the government but won't welcome them back as supreme rulers, they have been down that road before and found it a brutal one.

They've never had a strong central government and we can't impose one. It's an ancient country with a very long history of tribalism and no amount of meddling will change that.

It was time to go the day bin Laden got plugged. We really do need to go now and Unocal can pay bribes to tribal chiefs to secure their pipeline. That's the way business has always been done there and should be done now. Using the US military costs to much both for us and for the Afghans.

[area51]

20. +1 n/t

[court jester]

3. Net recommendation: 0 votes (Your vote: +1)

It's more than sad...

Violence begets violence but humans never learn.

WWJDB? (Where would Jesus Drone Bomb)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Being "Tough on terror" is considered "practical" politics and a necessary campaign move.

And, some "liberals" cling to that notion despite the cost in lives and fortune.

[Dr Fate]

5. Maybe they are trying not to be racists. Nt

Nt

[Puzzledtraveller]

6. because....

the man in the WH has a (D) next to his name?

:shrug:

[RKP5637]

8. I think D or R it would still be the same. It seems to be a mind set in this

country that might makes right. Also, look at how many are making huge amounts of $$$ off of these wars. And look at how dug into both the R's and D's the MIC is ... Also, is this country that incapable that we just can't seem to get it wrapped up. The reasons behind it all run very deep, far further than the president.

[Rabblevox]

7. Duh! We are in Afghanistan to protect the pipeline. That has ALWAYS been...

the real mission there. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

[Billypenn]

10. Newsflash!

If you support war, you're not a true liberal.

[Bigmack]

11. All that shit about pipelines....

makes no sense.

Hell, we could buy the shit at twice the world price and still save money by getting out of that shithole.

The corporations who want their share could actually buy it, you know.

[Enrique]

12. we can't leave now

we're on the verge of victory. :shrug:

[blindpig]

13. They're liberals....

it is a capitalist political philosophy.

[Faryn Balyncd]

14. The lesson of Afghanistan is that our political leaders can't be trusted to conduct even a JUST war.

The warmongers and the military industrial complex are so embedded into positions of political and economic power that even when the use of military power is justified, the justification will be abused, and that the total damage to morality, liberty, prosperity, and to our fundamental values caused by our overreach will be far greater than the wrong we set out to right.

[Bragi]

19. This was NEVER a just war

To be just, a war has to be (among other things) unavoidable. This war was avoidable because Bush rejected the overtures from the Taliban government to hand over OBL.

It became fashionable among DNC types who were nervous about opposing the Iraq war that this offer to give up OBL never happened, and that this was a JUST war. It wasn't.

[FarCenter]

15. It's the Joe Lieberman, neoCon wing of the Democratic Party

Not necessarily liberal, not necessarily democratic.

[BOG PERSON]

16. i figure they are either internet prize-fighters

or they have been intellectually zombified

[Hatchling]

17. They're LINO's. nt

[Odin2005]

18. "It's OK if Obama does it!!!"

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Hmm under international law

The us was justified. Under same law us lost that justification at Tora bora, order to stand down, and when line of departure was crossed in Iraq.