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Galraedia Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:10 PM
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Obama jobs bill dies in Senate
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 07:32 PM by Galraedia
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:11 PM
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1. How many Democrats voted against this, and how many Republicans?
Thanks.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:14 PM
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4. Nelson and Testor
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:17 PM
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9. Tester: Jobs Bill Needs Changes
Oct. 08--U.S. Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., said Friday he will not support President Obama's $447 billion jobs bill unless it's changed to more heavily tilt toward infrastructure projects and has fewer tax cuts.

"I'm not crazy about it and I'm not going to support it in its current form," Tester said while meeting with The Montana Standard's editorial board. "There are a lot of tax breaks in there that aren't going to create jobs."

In a wide ranging interview Tester said he supports spending money on infrastructure, education and research. He said the first stimulus bill helped the country go from losing jobs to gaining ground, but he said any further bills aimed at job creation need to focus heavily on building the roads, bridges and water treatment plants the country needs.

http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.aspx?id=283197&type=newswires
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:12 PM
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2. so, just under 4% of the democrats opposed it, while 100% of republicans opposed it
and it's the democratic party that caused it to fail?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:12 PM
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3. That is where any bill that would help dies.
They are the guardians of the elite.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:15 PM
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5. Every Republican voted against it.
And Nelson is a Republican in all but name. So all but two Democrats in the Senate voted in favor and you are losing hope in the Democratic party? That's a strange take on it.
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Galraedia Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:25 PM
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13. Who wouldn't lose hope?
Personally I'd like to beat the living s@#t out of everyone who opposed it. Those two Democrats don't deserve the title. They know damn well that Obama is the target and that the Republican party will stop at nothing, even if it means running this country into the ground, to prevent him from getting reelected. Those a-holes should have showed the people of this country that the Democratic party still has a goddamn spine.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:43 PM
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19. I don't disagree with that.
But the fact is they don't have a spine. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those "yes" votes turned around if they suspected the bill could pass.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:15 PM
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6. Your blame assignment is disproportionate
2 Democrats, 47 Republicans.

Seems to me that the blame should reflect that.
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:16 PM
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7. Not dead. It's going to be split up like it should be. nt
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:17 PM
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8. Vote the bum$ out.
Vote the (almost) absolute corrupt bastids OUT.

They Don't Work for you.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:17 PM
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10. Give me a break...
The bill is going to finish with a 51-46 majority. Before 2007, that bill would have gone to the House, where it would have died.

Right now, Obama could send up a bill to replace Martin Luther King Day with Reagan Day and the Senate Republicans would kill it.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:31 PM
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15. LOL
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:18 PM
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11. Time to go Harry Truman and call it the do-nothing-congress.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:22 PM
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12. It got 51 to a 48 vote, all the Democrats but 2 voted for it and
even they would have it still wouldn't have passed. We all knew that, how was that a defeat for the Democrats? How come the Republicans got everything they wanted with a simple majority and we need as super majority?
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moose65 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:28 PM
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14. The point is.....
This wasn't a vote on the bill itself... it was a vote to end debate on the bill (you know, the kind that the Constitution says requires 60 votes... oh wait). Tester and Nelson should have voted for cloture. Then, the Democrats would have been united. It's never the Republicans that we should watch out for - we KNOW how they're going to act. It's always the turncoat Dems who give us a bad name. IF this bill had no chance of getting 60 votes, then why not vote for it? They had nothing to lose.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:36 PM
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16. What happened to our Whip?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:38 PM
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17. who needs an opposition party?
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:25 PM
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22. Have you read
any of the other posts? 2 Democrats....that is TWO Democrats voted no....Every single Republican voted no. This was a a vote for cloture, not for the bill itself, so it needed 60 votes anyway, and would have passed on the merits.
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:41 PM
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18. Repukes voted down 1.9 million jobs because...
they fricking hate the people who vote for them. This thing was paid for and did not increase the national debt--like that even matters in the middle of a recession/depression.
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Galraedia Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:16 PM
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20. Lets vent....
Everyone, lets vent out our frustration on Eric Cantors Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/ericcantor?ref=ts

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Galraedia Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:17 PM
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21. Lets vent
Everyone, lets vent out our frustration on Eric Cantors Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/ericcantor?ref=ts
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:27 PM
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23. Reid switched his vote to 'no' so that he can bring it back to the Senate floor.
It is NOT dead yet.


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