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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:46 PM
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Nelson and Tester vote with republicans to stall President's jobs bill
___ U.S. President Barack Obama's $447 billion jobs bill was knocked down by the Democratic-controlled Senate on Tuesday, as it received 51 votes but fell short of the necessary 60 votes needed to kill the Republican filibuster.

Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Jon Tester of Montana were reportedly the only Democrats to vote against the bill. Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., had made it clear earlier that he intended to vote in favor of ending the Republican filibuster, but that he hadn't any intention to support the bill if it reached a final vote.


read: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/229350/20111011/the-u-s-senate-killed-obama-s-jobs-bill-it-failed-to-get-60-votes.htm
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:48 PM
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1. What the hell!
And that my friends is why this party is losing!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:53 PM
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2. I just don't see what Tester thinks he has to gain
Voting against a jobs bill in an election year?

The employment situation in Montana ain't all that great.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:56 PM
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5. Tester isn't a DEM.... he is a dam Repuke! any DEM who voted against the jobs bill should be impeac
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:55 PM
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3. Tester apparently did so from the left, at least according to some here.
Many here do not like the SS payroll tax cut and don't like the other tax cuts, and those are his two reasons (unless I missed something) for opposing the bill.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:07 PM
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7. according to the Washington Examiner:
Tester criticized the bill as sending billions in bailout aid to states and containing "tax gimmicks" that don't address deficit reduction.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/2011/10/tester-votes-republicans-against-jobs-bill
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:26 PM
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8. Like America is going to get ANYTHING BETTER?
Dems are the old men on park benches who throw crumbs to the pigeons. Repubs are old men who shoot pigeons.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:35 PM
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10. Ah; I missed that. You are correct. n/t
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:56 PM
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4. Ok... I Know We Disagree Many Times, But I Gotta Ask...
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 08:09 PM by WillyT
So why doesn't the Senate Whip and the Senate Leader, and the President himself, sit these fuckers down in a meeting, and say something like, "Look, I really need your vote on this. We HAVE to show unity against the Republicans. And if I can't get your vote on something this important, then I don't think I can support your efforts in the future."

Threat being: If you support me, you will have whatever help appropriate to your re-election and future legislation. If you oppose me, I will direct various entities in the party to look for an alternative to you, and throw all resources to THEIR election. I will work to DEFEAT YOU!

Is it really that difficult?

:shrug:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:03 PM
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6. well, for one
Tester was more concerned with what Montanans thought of him than he was worried the President had any significant influence in his conservative state. He used republican hooks to dismiss the bill, like criricizing the 'bailouts' to the states. He faces a challenge by Republican U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg in 2012.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:27 PM
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9. Maybe that was done. Whatever happened to good old fashioned goons?
They use them on the Occupy protesters.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:37 PM
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11. It isn't a credible threat in Nebraska or Montana. Opposition by a Democratic President helps them
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 08:38 PM by BzaDem
with the public in those states, and it is unlikely that any non-incumbent Democrat would win in either state absent a huge Democratic wave.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:21 PM
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12. They voted that way because...
they are really republiCONS. THEY NEED TO BE VOTED OUT. THEY ARE DINO'S.
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