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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:22 PM
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The “very scary” Iranian Terror plot - Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/

The most difficult challenge in writing about the Iranian Terror Plot unveiled yesterday is to take it seriously enough to analyze it. Iranian Muslims in the Quds Force sending marauding bands of Mexican drug cartel assassins onto sacred American soil to commit Terrorism — against Saudi Arabia and possibly Israel — is what Bill Kristol and John Bolton would feverishly dream up while dropping acid and madly cackling at the possibility that they could get someone to believe it. But since the U.S. Government rolled out its Most Serious Officials with Very Serious Faces to make these accusations, many people (therefore) do believe it; after all, U.S. government accusations = Truth. All Serious people know that. And in the ensuing reaction one finds virtually every dynamic typically shaping discussions of Terrorism and U.S. foreign policy.

To begin with, this episode continues the FBI’s record-setting undefeated streak of heroically saving us from the plots they enable. From all appearances, this is, at best, yet another spectacular “plot” hatched by some hapless loser with delusions of grandeur but without any means to put it into action except with the able assistance of the FBI, which yet again provided it through its own (paid, criminal) sources posing as Terrorist enablers. The Terrorist Mastermind at the center of the plot is a failed used car salesman in Texas with a history of pedestrian money problems. Dive under your bed. “For the entire operation, the government’s confidential sources were monitored and guided by federal law enforcement agents,” explained U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, and “no explosives were actually ever placed anywhere and no one was actually ever in any danger.’”

But no matter. The U.S. Government and its mindless followers in the pundit and think-tank “expert” class have seized on this ludicrous plot with astonishing speed to all but turn it into a hysterical declaration of war against Evil, Hitlerian Iran. “The US attorney-general Eric Holder said Iran would be ‘held to account’ over what he described as a flagrant abuse of international law,” and “the US says military action remains on the table,” though “it is at present seeking instead to work through diplomatic and financial means to further isolate Iran.” Hillary Clinton thundered that this “crosses a line that Iran needs to be held to account for.” The CIA’s spokesman at The Washington Post, David Ignatius, quoted an anonymous White House official as saying the plot “appeared to have been authorized by senior levels of the Quds Force.” Meanwhile, the State Department has issued a Travel Alert which warns American citizens that this plot “may indicate a more aggressive focus by the Iranian Government on terrorist activity against diplomats from certain countries, to include possible attacks in the United States.”

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The ironies here are so self-evident it’s hard to work up the energy to point them out. Outside of Pentagon reporters, Washington Post Editorial Page Editors, and Brookings “scholars,” is there a person on the planet anywhere who can listen with a straight face as drone-addicted U.S. Government officials righteously condemn the evil, illegal act of entering another country to commit an assassination? Does anyone, for instance, have any interest in finding out who is responsible for the spate of serial murders aimed at Iran’s nuclear scientists? Wouldn’t people professing to be so outraged by the idea of entering another country to engage in assassination be eager to get to the bottom of that?

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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:27 PM
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1. But, it must be true.
Saddam was buying that yellowcake uranium from west Africa and building bombs. We were told so, it had to be true.

I'm sure Iran is ready to pounce any minute now as well.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:49 PM
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5. Don't forget those aluminum tubes!
Made for rockets but propagandized into centrifuge tubes...
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:33 PM
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2. K&R- I'm only halfway through it and he's already hit it out of the park.
Oh man!

PB
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:46 PM
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3. Glenn Greenwald didn't prove that the US government is planting a "fake story"
This article is heavy on insinuation and makes big rhetorical leaps.

I hate the way Greenwald inserts these snotty references to other events (like drone attacks) and then is too lame and lazy to write the words to explain what he is getting at. He needs an editor to fix his stories.

Now, having said that, Greenwald may be right. This may be a ruse.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:53 PM
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7. He doesn't have to. Because, that's not what he claimed! Read the article.

He suggests an exaggerated and misleading claim about an Iranian terrorist plot, not planting a "fake" story as you so cleverly misrepresented it.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:02 PM
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10. you fail...eom
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:28 PM
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23. no; you do though
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:03 PM
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:48 PM
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4. A new fable for a new war, hear the Empire beat the drum.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:06 PM
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15. Occupy Iran!
:hide:
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 10:29 PM
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26. Nah, the US uses drones to intimidate countries we aren't at war with.
Oh yeah, I forgot, the US never officially declares war - our government just attacks whoever it thinks needs attacking.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:50 PM
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6. Scary stuff! Run and hide! Defend the Fatherland! Increase the military budget !

Be afraid .... be very, very afraid!
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:54 PM
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8. The money line is this:
"this episode continues the FBI’s record-setting undefeated streak of heroically saving us from the plots they enable."

Nuff said.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:58 PM
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9. Or more accurate yet "from the plots they organize".
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:03 PM
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11. Vague insinuation by the Greenwald
see my post from earlier this hour ^
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:50 PM
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18. Yea, hide under the bed and kiss your ass goodbye.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 06:51 PM by Eddie Haskell
I'm terrifbied.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:04 PM
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12. Who benefits? Quds Force or Mossad?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:05 PM
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13. As if we're all deaf to the drum beating and saber rattling...
Like we haven't heard this tune before... like we don't know the dance moves. Like we haven't seen this movie so many times... like we can't cue the lines.

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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:05 PM
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14. These "Plots" Amaze Me
I remember a time when entrapment was not permitted SOP for law enforcement.

-- Mal
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:59 PM
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16. knr
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:55 PM
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19. K&R; thanks!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:33 PM
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21. You bet! nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:59 PM
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20. K&R...and Josh Marshall of TPM is a great skeptic of this latest from the
"US Politboro" news of the day.

Some have said Eric Holder had to release this because the Repug, Daryl Issa is all over him for some problem on the US/Mexican Border.

I don't know if that's true or not. I thought it was because Holder was getting scared of the OWS. He was worrying it would get "out of hand" so he had to CALL A TERRORIST INCIDENT...just like Bush/Cheney did before him.

I don't know the truth but tonight on Democracy Now, Amy Goodman and her guest questioned why Eric Holder had not released any documents supporting his "Address to the Nation."

I think much skepticism needs to be spread around about Holder's report for all those reasons.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:07 PM
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22. K&R n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:30 PM
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24. Other wars are running out of gas?
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 10:05 PM
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25. Wow. Thanks for the link, Octafish. nt
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