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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:30 PM Original message |
Is the Obama administration trying to gin up a war with Iran? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. No. Next ridiculous question? nt |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. So why is Hillary going all hawkish over a minor sting operation? n/t |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Because it's "ridiculous," that's why! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Probably because Hillary is a hawk. Always has been. |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Self detete. Wrong spot n/t |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Hawkish with words. That's how we approach Iran. Becaue that's all we really can really do |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. This "minor sting operation" amounts to an act of War by the government accused. Educate yourself. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Really, an act of war? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Attempting to assassinate the ambassador(s) of a country on another nation's shores is the textbook |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Umm, no |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. And "guess what" (Sic), there have been many acts of War committed over the centuries that didn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. There's no evidence of official gov't involvement, except the US Gov't. You educate yourself. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. probably |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. +1 |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. He's gotta keep the big MIC campaign donors writing those checks |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. I certainly hope not (and doubt it) |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. That would be following the neocon agenda |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. that's right!!! |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. You need to make clear that anything above "The US secretary of state has" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. So now you want something besides quotations and links |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Draw a line or something. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, I assume that I'm dealing with pretty intelligent people who can read for content |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Interesting. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. ? |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. Weren't people like you saying this during the last spat with Iran |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. Weapons of Mass Distraction. And it's working. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. Didn't Obama just put a PNACer on his Intel staff? (Zelikow) |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. That has got to be Hillary's fault. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. Any chance the Obama administration might release real evidence to back up the Iran gov't plot claim |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. Somebody needs to sit on Hillary |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Read the AP article. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Sure, that's it ... |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. Rice is all over this too |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. I would think this is the perfect scenario for black ops operation like Obama likes |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. Sure looks that way |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. Whoever dreamed this one up, it looks like not many are taking it as a serious threat. Neocon Fail. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. It has FBI prints all over it IMO..n/t |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Lots of smudges and false positives. True. But, other Agencies probably involved. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. What also ran through my mind was Panetta being concerned his |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I don't get the sense this was Leon's work, or Bob Gates', either. |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes. The pipeline must go through. eom. |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Indeed. Follow the pipelines to the next war zone.. Here's the latest on Iran's pipelines > |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. This match has been lit for a long time... |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Of course we can afford this |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. This from a nation who kills first and doesn't even bother to ask questions (a trial)? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Biden: It's an outrageous *crime* to go around assassinating people. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
40. And simultaneously create justification for conflating drug trade and terrorism |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. I fear this is exactly where we are headed. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. in a word - |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
45. Well, that HAS been a targeted goal for PNAC, |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. K & R. They certainly are in high level diplomatic overdrive. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. No way! We cannot afford another war!! |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. YES |
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