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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:43 PM
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Combative President Obama Keeps Fighting For Jobs Bill
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 03:47 PM by bigtree
Wednesday, October 12, 2011




WASHINGTON — In his first, combative appearance since a united Senate GOP caucus filibustered the jobs plan to death, Pres. Obama promised to keep the pressure on Congress for his job initiatives.

After pressing for Congress to award his jobs package an up or down vote, Obama and his Democratic allies promise to force additional votes on separate pieces of the measure, like infrastructure spending, jobless assistance and tax cuts for individuals and businesses.

"We will keep organizing and we will keep pressuring and we will keep voting until this Congress finally meets its responsibilities and actually does something to put people back to work and improve the economy," said Pres. Obama

read more: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/10/12/obama-still-pressing-on-with-jobs-act


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"For the better part of a decade, we've seen the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the middle class get squeezed," President Obama said. "That was before the crisis that began in Wall Street and made its way to Main Streets all across America, making it harder for people to find jobs, harder for families to keep their heads above water.

. . . with so many people hurting today, there are things we can do right now to make a difference. There are things we should do right now to put more people back to work and to restore a sense of security and fairness that's been missing for too long.

So that's why I put forward the American Jobs Act. That's why I sent Congress a jobs bill made up of the kinds of proposals that, traditionally, Democrats and Republicans have supported. Independent economists who do this for a living have said the American Jobs Act would lead to more growth and nearly 2 million jobs next year. No other jobs plan has that kind of support from actual economists -- no plan from Congress, no plan from anybody.


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But apparently, none of this matters to Republicans in the Senate. Because last night, even though a majority of senators voted in favor of the American Jobs Act, a Republican minority got together as a group and blocked this jobs bill from passing the Senate. They said no to more jobs for teachers; no to more jobs for cops and firefighters; no to more jobs for construction workers and veterans; no to tax cuts for small business owners and middle-class Americans.

Now, a lot of folks in Washington and the media will look at last night's vote and say, well, that’s it. Let’s move on to the next fight. But I’ve got news for them: Not this time. Not with so many Americans out of work. Not with so many folks in your communities hurting. We will not take no for an answer.

We will keep organizing and we will keep pressuring and we will keep voting until this Congress finally meets its responsibilities and actually does something to put people back to work and improve the economy.


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We’ll give members of Congress a chance to vote on whether they think that we should keep teachers out of work -- or put them back in the classroom where they belong, teaching our kids.

They’ll get a chance to vote on whether they think that construction workers should stay idle while our roads and bridges are falling apart -- or whether we should put these men and women back to work rebuilding America.

Republicans say that one of the most important things we can do is cut taxes. Well, they get a chance to vote on whether we should cut taxes for middle-class families, or let them go up. This job would cut taxes for virtually every worker and small business in America; 25 million Latinos would benefit. If you’re a small business owner who hires a new worker or raises wages, you’d get another tax cut. If you hire a veteran, like Sergeant Petry, you’d get another tax cut. Anybody who fights for our country should not have to fight for a job when they come home.


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Now, I know some folks in Congress blocked this jobs bill because of how it’s paid for. Well, we already agreed to cut nearly $1 trillion in government spending. We’ve offered to cut even more in order to bring down the deficit. But we can’t just cut without asking those of us who’ve been most fortunate in our society to pay our fair share. And that’s not about punishing success; it’s about making choices. If we want to create jobs and close the deficit, and invest in our future, the money has got to come from somewhere.

And so we’ve got to ask ourselves a question: Would we rather keep the tax code with its loopholes exactly as they are for millionaires and billionaires -- or do you want construction workers to have a job rebuilding roads and bridges and schools? Because you know a lot of our kids in the community are learning in trailers right now. Why wouldn’t we want to put people back to work rebuilding those schools? Would you rather fight for special interest tax breaks, or do you want to fight for tax cuts for small businesses and middle-class families in your neighborhood? I think I know the answer.


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In the end, this is a debate about fairness and who we are as a country. It’s a debate about what we believe in; what kind of country do we want to be. When Michelle and I tuck our daughters into bed at night, we think about the fact that we are only where we are because somebody who came before us met their responsibilities. They put the America Dream within our reach. They made sure that there were student loan programs out there, and they made sure that there were decent schools out there, that there were opportunities for everybody. That’s the reason all of you are here today -- because somebody made an investment 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, to ensure that you had a chance at success.

These are tough times, and a lot of people are living week to week, paycheck to paycheck, even day to day. They need action, and they need it now. They want Congress to work for the people who elected them in the first place. They want Congress to do their job.

So I need your help. I’m going to need -- you are opinion leaders all across the country. I need you to email and tweet, and fax and write letters, and get on the phone, meet face to face. Remind members of Congress who they work for. Remind them what’s at stake here. The time for games and politics is over. Too many in this country are hurting for us to stand by and do nothing . . .

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read and watch speech: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/10/12/remarks-president-forum-american-latino-heritage


(AP photos/Pablo Martinez, Carolyn Kaster/REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst, Kevin Lamarque)
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:47 PM
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1. K&R
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:49 PM
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2. He shouldn't have to spend his days this way, but it's a good move!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:49 PM
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3. They need action, and they need it now.
Bottom line.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:52 PM
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4. Better late than never
It's well past time to take the Republicans to task for their dishonest shenanigans. I'm sure this is still new to Mr. Obama, but by all means, make sure you're blaming "the Republicans" for voting this down, not "Congress." Put the hat on them first, last and every time in between. Don't be shy about citing poll numbers and invoking the will of the people, because indeed the majority of the electorate is in favor of this bill. And steal a page from the Republican playbook and talk about how the Senate Republicans refused to get to an up-or-down vote.

Keep it up, and here's hoping you get better at this, Mr. Obama.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:57 PM
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5. KT
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:58 PM
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6. Is this the same American Jobs Act that consists of more tax cuts and credits than acutal spending?
The same "jobs bill" that will further enrich the already wealthy via tax cuts and tax credits? That "jobs bill"?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:06 PM
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7. this is the jobs bill
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 04:09 PM by bigtree
. . . that will keep teachers in the classroom, police officers on the beat, and put construction workers back on the job rebuilding our roads and bridges.

. . . provide a $4,000 tax credit to employers for hiring long-term unemployed workers. The Jobs Act will also prohibit employers from discriminating against unemployed workers when hiring.

. . . will extend unemployment insurance to prevent 5 million Americans looking for work from losing their lifeline.

. . . innovative entrepreneurship and wage insurance programs: States will also be empowered to implement wage insurance to help reemploy older workers and create programs that make it easier for unemployed workers to start their own businesses.

etc.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:07 PM
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8. But are you disputing the fact that it gives out more in tax credits and tax cuts,
Than it spends on actual job creation?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:15 PM
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9. hiring incentives to small businesses
You can spin it any way you want, I guess, but the emphasis behind the tax incentives is on buttressing and enabling small and medium businesses to maintain and hire workers.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:16 PM
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10. I thought that used to be a Republican thing
I'm so confused

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:20 PM
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13. you'd think so
. . . but republicans long ago abandoned small businesses. In addition to slashing the agency's budget and staffing, Bush closed SBA offices coast to coast.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:20 PM
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12. So you do admit that the "jobs bill" is has more tax cuts and tax credits
Than actual spending on job creation. Good, we're making progress.

Now, will you admit the reality that tax cuts and tax credits are the least effective forms of economic stimulus, while WPA style jobs creation programs are among the most effective forms of economic stimulus?

So the question becomes, why is Obama fighting so hard for a bill that not only almost entirely consists of Republican retread ideas, but a bill that is so very ineffective?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:23 PM
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15. the President's infrastructure proposals might be the only parts to survive
'republican retread ideas? As if they ever proposed or tried to enact a comprehensive jobs bill.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:30 PM
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16. Actually, the only parts that are going to survive will be the tax cuts and tax credits
New spending is going to go down in flames, as we saw in the Senate last night.

And yes, most of those individual components of the "jobs bill" were/are retreads of 'Pug ideas. Even Obama admitted to this in his kickoff speech. ""Everything in here is the kind of proposal that's been supported by both Democrats and Republicans -- including many who sit here tonight. "
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:42 PM
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17. Bernie Sanders fought and voted for it, He explains . . . I agree with him
"We have to create millions of jobs as soon as possible," Sen. Bernie Sanders told radio host Ed Schultz in a midday interview. Sanders said he would have preferred a bolder plan to put more money into roads and bridges and railroads and schools. He applauded Senate leaders for coming up with a surtax on millionaires to help pay for the jobs bill. Sanders proposed a similar measure earlier this year.

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=0904F49D-33B0-41AF-B47E-9F6548669C26
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:15 PM
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19. If he has to fight this hard for this bill, why the hell would WPA II stand any better chance?
Life on DU is so easy, isn't it?
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:26 PM
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20. It's also the bill that will help defund SS by reducing payroll taxes (that will help them cut SS)
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:17 PM
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11. I don't consider free trade with South Korea a "jobs bill".
:shrug:
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:32 PM
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21. That is only because you are not a Chamber of Commerce true believer, read
their new holy book (Obama read in on some road to Damascus or something and it gave him visions of bright light)

http://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/110905_jobs_letter.pdf

Hell even the method used for infrastructure funding is more in line with their way of doing it than direct funding (funding things directly is bad you see, not enough private profit that way)
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:22 PM
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14. If W had given a speech like this, they would have called him "resolute", not "combative". n/t
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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:10 PM
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18. There was a filibuster?
"In his first, combative appearance since a united Senate GOP caucus filibustered the jobs plan to death,"

Drat, I missed it. Man, they move those cots on and off the floor fast these days.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:34 PM
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22. Well, you see, fillibuster is a magick word to Reid, it invokes great power simply by speaking it
The act itself has become even less powerful than the magick word, so he has no way to fight a word so powerful.
Er or something like that.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 05:50 PM
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23. Smoke and mirrors. Campaign strategy: 1) Feeling unlucky-
create a job bill to suck the people into believing you actually care. Sneaking in status quo BS and shit that errors on the side big biz.

2) Opposition won't pass it, but you knew that the whole time.

3) Put on a big act pretending that you're not going give up on your 'grand plan'. The rabble, er, people are stupid and even with all the protesting going on, they'll still fall for the act and think, aw gee your swell.

4) Throw in a plot against US and Saudi Arabia by Iran. Another war will distract the peons, er, people even more.

5) Sit back with all you bipartition cronies and drink a toast to the suckers, er, people.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:25 PM
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24. I see you are as good at reading the "purchased pols" as I am /nt
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:13 PM
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26. I try, gotta call 'em like I see 'em. Pleased to meet you.
:hi:
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:39 PM
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27. I've seen you around, I have always loved that gif
I used to think this one I made was cool (until I saw yours)


:hi:
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:58 AM
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29. Just the fact that you made that gif
is really cool. Kudos to you, I stole mine. :evilgrin:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:07 PM
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25. Rec'd. I know people whine about posts being unrec'd every 14 seconds
but truly I have no idea why anyone would unrec this. And I truly, GENUINELY don't care to hear anyone's "reasons" for doing so either.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:48 PM
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28. KnR. n/t
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