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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:29 PM
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OWS Protester Rant.."Blame the Jews."
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/12/wall-street-protester-proclaims-the-jews-control-wall-st-in-zuccotti-park-rant/


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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — “Blame the Jews.”

That’s the message one Wall Street protester was trying to spread in Lower Manhattan to anyone that would listen.

A new video posted to YouTube shows the protester loudly and aggressively proclaiming “the Jews control Wall Street.”

In the nearly 6-minute video, the man is seen standing in Zuccotti Park ranting against Israel and Jews while holding a sign reading “Hitler’s Bankers – Wall St.”

The protestor, who would not give his name to those gathered around him, is also seen arguing with members of the public who took offense to his choice of words.

Rest of article and video at link
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:32 PM
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1. probably a GOP plant
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:33 PM
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4. There is also antisemitism in the left
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:35 PM
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7. I've noticed some. n/t
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:32 PM
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32. I don't know if it is entirely that it is anti jews as it is anti Israel's policies...even
in Israel they are marching against the hard right...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:15 PM
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43. Not some. A LOT. n/t
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:37 PM
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17. +1
I see it too.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:29 AM
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67. There's also antisemitism in the completely bugfuck insane crowd.
Sounds to me like this dude is more an indicative member of group "B" than group "A".
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:21 PM
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69. Not really, there's blind hatred of western power on the left
And that's where the left can come off as antisemitic. The people on the "left" who are actually antisemites are Lyndon LaRouche types who have far more in common with Ron Paul nutjobs than they do with the left.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:08 AM
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70. No, there is actually anti-Semitism on the left.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:34 PM
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5. Your sig photo is funny!
My favorite - "Didn't screw up a hurricane."
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:38 PM
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19. They missed out what looks like beer in his hand.. lol n/t
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:01 PM
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40. It's coffee...
a box of it.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:06 PM
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41. lol... Ok.. I couldn't make that box out. n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:35 PM
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12. Not everybody who behaves badly is a "plant" or "provcateur."
Being a part of a given protest does not automatically make you a saint, correct about everything, or even sane.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:57 PM
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:40 PM
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21. Obvious plant. Will be all over Fox tonight.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:56 PM
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56. He's not a plant. He's a nut.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:16 PM
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46. Exactly. Stinks of GOP PR hit squads.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 02:29 AM
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68. nope, probably just a nut.
you always get a few nuts when you gather huge amounts of people together.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:33 PM
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2. The agent provocateurs have arrived
Somebody put this asshole up to it I guarantee you.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:35 PM
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11. I think so too... Trying to disrupt big time. Lets hope that some in attendence
OWS will tone he/she down.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:38 PM
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20. is that "agent provocateurs" or "agents provocateur" ???
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:41 PM
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22. As a French term, the plural would actually by "agents provocateurs".
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:58 PM
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37. thanks yous fors thes answers.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:48 PM
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44. pas de problème.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:21 AM
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71. I agree completely............nt
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:23 AM
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72. You may want to read post #54.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:33 PM
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3. One bigot does not define a movement.
My son is participating in OWS in another city. He described the General Assembly consensus-building model that they use. Nothing could be further from fascism or antisemitism.

There are conservative infiltrators at OWS - some have even confessed to being instigators of violence. And there are lots of individuals bringing their own points of view. That doesn't mean that their words or actions reflect those of the movement.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:34 PM
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:37 PM
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18. That I would believe. nt
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:43 PM
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24. I would say more then probably
Certainly.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:43 PM
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25. I'd say a LaRouchebag.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 06:43 PM by KamaAina
Superb turn of phrase, by the way. :rofl:

They got next to a Social Security rally in SF with a picture of Obama with a Hitler mustache. Need I say more? :eyes:
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:35 PM
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8. oh c'mon... that LONE lunatic has been standing out there for days - nobody there takes him as a
rep for the group. For the most part he hangs out alone two blocks away enjoying his picture being taken.

I didn't mean to rec this.....that was an accident. Unfortunate some people want to give this lone wolf more power than reflects reality. It's like pulling a sentance out of context.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:51 PM
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28. That's good info. I wonder where he was standing when the video was taken...
(I am having trouble playing videos on my computer.)

Early on, someone tried to convince me that the OWS protest was littered with LaRouchites. After quite a bit of investigation, I found out that 1) When the LaRouche chorus started up, the OWS folks shut them down and shooed them away and that; 2) the only video footage that the chorus had performing and completing their song was taped in Battery Park several blocks away.

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:35 PM
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9. PLANTED AGENT PROVOCATEUR
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:36 PM
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:55 PM
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55. No he's not
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:35 PM
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10. one nutcase
in a crowd of thousands and the M$M jumps on it. I have been listening to gop liars on my local talk radio calling in and lying about being Jewish pushing this crap. The host called one of them on it by asking questions any Jewish person would know about the holidays, etc., the guy got tripped up and started SCREAMING at the host on the air. Was cut off and laughed at.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:36 PM
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13. Sounds like one of LaRouche's goons.
It seems like OWS is going to have to police itself and tell these goons to start their own movement elsewhere. That goes for right wingers who are trying to start violent action, too. While they're probably part of the 99%, their sympathies lie with the 1% and their tactics will be dictated by that 1%.

I was very impressed with the crowd's discipline at the Air & Space Museum. No one followed that right wing jerk inside the building and he alone collected a faceful of Mace for his trouble.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:59 PM
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58. That was my first thought, too!
Either that, or a GOP plant.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:36 PM
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14. Some Republicant attempting to discredit OWS
decides to be a racist bigot shit.

Here is another racist bigot shit being a racist bigot scum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEq5w2-6X14&feature=player_embedded

Fuck them with Ted Stevens series of tubes.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:36 PM
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15. Notice how the media chooses to focus on ONE PERSON and smear the entire movement with that?
That's pretty typical.

PB
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:42 PM
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23. Oppose Israel's policies all you want, but as soon as someone says "the Jews" this, "the Jews" that
Then the conversation is over.

Is he a plant? I don't know. But either way it must not be tolerated.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:46 PM
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26. And where did I see those signs proclaiming Obama is a halfrican (with a bone in his nose
or eating watermelon?)

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:49 PM
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27. could be planted, but could be real
no way would he be connected with OWS, but imagine how many antisemites live within slithering distance of NYC? This is something the protesters are going to have to deal with, they're probably already working on it.
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War Horse Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 06:53 PM
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29. He's been popping up on the Interwebs a bit lately
In various videos. Seems to be a rather tragic figure. Claims to be homeless and half blind. I don't think he's an RW plant - but RWers are cynical enough to pay some homeless guy to do this, though.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:29 PM
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30. There have been other assholes at various sites
also involving photography/videography
http://www.pixiq.com/article/occupy-DC-Activists-Block-Adam-Kokesh-From-Recording

This should not define the movement, though some are clearly trying. However we also need to keep such crap to a minimum.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:30 PM
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31. I'm on Team Plaid Shirt Guy...
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Mnpaul Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:07 PM
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42. If you Google what he wants you to Google
Up pops Stormfront at the top of the list. I really doubt that a lefty would be directing traffic to Stormfront.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:39 PM
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33. Sounds like a right wing plant..
They are the ones that rant about "the Jews" on Wall Street and Hollywood constantly.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:45 PM
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34. It's a public park, and NYC is a big place.
You do realize that with all the publicity, this place is bound to get a lot of loons out of the woodwork. I was there Saturday, and saw the religious fanatics, telling us the "the end is near," and the other nuts that were plugging other religious crap. Not to mention the general nut jobs that gravitate to crowds. There are all kinds in NYC, so don't think that one person who said something bad about Jews, to be the norm.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:47 PM
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35. unfortunately there will always be some nuts that show up at any gathering
I doubt that this is a plant or agent provocateur. It's possible. But I doubt it. Whenever you have ANY kind of public meeting where people can start expressing themselves openly. Out of thousands and thousands of people, it is inevitable that some of them are going to be crazy.
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:59 PM
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39. +1.. the protests are now big enough that some
assholes are bound to show up. Shit Republicans and Democrats alike are right now sitting in back rooms somewhere deciding how they can co-opt all these votes. Everyone wants a piece of this but most of them for all the wrong reasons.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:58 PM
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38. YEAH RIGHT, LIKE ANY LIBERAL OR OWS PROTESTOR WOULD HOLD A SIGN WITH HITLER ON IT. BULLSHIT!
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Youth Uprising Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:14 PM
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45. OWS seems to have attracted the attention of a lot of Libertarian types for some
reason and a lot of those folks tend to be pretty antisemitic. They relish in antisemitic and red-baiting conspiracy theories.
Also, anti-Zionism =/= antisemitism, for fuck's sake.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:21 PM
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47. Well......
There are many folks projecting their own ideas as to what this is about.

Good read on that here:
Projecting Wishes and Dreams onto the Occupy Wall Street Movement
http://extremeliberal.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/projecting-wishes-and-dreams-onto-the-occupy-wall-street-movement/
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:25 PM
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48. I thought Prescott Bush's buddies were Hitler's bankers?
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:32 PM
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51. That's exactly right - Prescott Bush and his buddies were Hitler's bankers.
DUer Octafish has written reams about it over the years in his "Know Your BFEE" series of posts. BFEE stands for "Bush Family Evil Empire." But thanks for the Wikipedia link--it never hurts to have more information.

This cheesy attempt at linkage makes absolutely no sense when you think about it. Why on earth would any Jewish banker finance Hitler?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:49 PM
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52. good point and true, Prescott himself was a Hitler banker
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:25 PM
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49. You know the other day I had a FReep complain about the anti-semtism......
interesting they were hung up on the sterotype....and the guy shitting on the 4 yr old junk box police car. Me thinks its O'keefes antics.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:30 PM
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50. Why would anyone want to distribute this garbage?
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 09:30 PM by EFerrari
If this defined OWS, it would be on signs all over the country. It's obviously not so this is just gratuitous.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:52 PM
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53. nutcase ----Hitler's bankers were Jews on Wall St? The guy needs a history lesson
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:54 PM
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54. That guy is the real deal.
He is a regular anti-semite maniac in the city. I often see him on 6th ave. near Radio City. As soon as I saw the subject I had a feeling it was this guy. He has a sign that says "google wall street jews" and some other crazy anti-semitic bullshit.

One time I said to him "you know you're a racist right?" I think he said yes.

He is no agent-provocateur. He's a racist crazy person.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:57 PM
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57. What he is NOT, is an OWS protester.
PB
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 10:02 PM
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60. How do you know this?
I've seen the guy for years with signs like this in the Radio City area. He's not a genuine OWS protester.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 10:26 PM
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62. "He's not a genuine OWS protester." I agree with that.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 10:27 PM by Poll_Blind
Perhaps I phrased my response clumsily. I agree with your assertion that he is not a genuine OWS protester.

PB
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 10:30 PM
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63. I think I read it too fast.
:dunce:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:31 PM
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64. Probably used to work for Lyndon Larouche nt
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:57 AM
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66. Thank you.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:59 PM
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59. DHS plant.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 10:02 PM
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61. Sent by Rush Limbaugh no doubt
Isn't that what he's been saying about OWS? He probably wanted a sound bite for his idiot show.
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:14 AM
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65. For sure the guy is nuts...
but that doesn't mean someone didn't at the very least give him the idea to go and join the OWS protesters.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:34 AM
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73. There is a bit of that on the Occupy pages and groups on Facebook.
They get smacked or ignored.
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