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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:29 PM
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Clinton on Letterman said that the reason the US has not gone
after china for their currency manipulation is because the US is dependant on China for buying its debt. Thus a trickle down economy (tax cuts) could take place where trade deficits were the norm in the USA. China would buy the debt, the USA would not touch China. I add, all the while the corporations were making money hand over fist.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:32 PM
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1. As intelligent as Clinton is, he is pretty clueless when it comes to economics.
We have a sovereign fiat currency. We do not need to borrow money, at all, ever.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:36 PM
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2. +1 The Debt Terrorists want us to choke on austerity cuts
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 11:40 PM by leftstreet
:grr:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:44 PM
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3. China is already unhappy at our printing money.
They consider it a default.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:43 AM
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5. Then they can stop lending to us.
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 12:46 AM by girl gone mad
It's very difficult to take that criticism seriously when one considers the fact that China's fiscal stimulus dwarfed our stimulus by many trillions. You must realize that this complaint is coming from a country which expanded its own money supply by 20% annually on average over the last decade. Do you honestly believe they would be eager to sell their dollar reserves? And buy what instead?

Try to think it through logically.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:32 AM
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7. Well that is for the Chinese to be upset about.
Since we don't own Chinese bonds it is not a big deal to us.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:46 AM
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9. The only thing that keeps them from destroying us in an instant is
that it would crush the whole world and China as well. We've both made Faustian bargains. We are tied in wedded bliss. Well, maybe not so much bliss.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:15 AM
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4. When it comes to economics, Clinton's knowledge is second to none. nt
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 12:45 AM
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6. Don't be silly.
The man is responsible for sticking us with dreadful Rubinomics in the first place.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:47 AM
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10. Yeah, he fucked us pretty badly
though our current President and Congress aren't doing too badly at encouraging the hemorrhage of jobs.
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MFrohike Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:37 AM
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8. Right
China holds less than 10% of US debt. I'm curious how that makes us "dependent" on them.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:23 PM
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11. Which debt are the chinese buying? The trade deficit debt or the government fiscal
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 01:24 PM by applegrove
budget debt? Or both? I've forgotten my economics.
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