Jane Fonda Cost Us the War In Vietnam

[SoDesuKa]

The way I see it, if it hadna been for Jane Fonda goin' over to Vietnam and protestin' n shit, we woulda won that sucka.



Tastes great! Less filling!

[seabeyond]

1. really? well, i guess stupid is abound now a days. nt

[vets74]

38. Killing 2,600,000 Vietnamese "cost us" Vietnam. But ain't this post SNARK ???

Gotta be a drunk White Citizens Council teabagger to believe that Jane Fonda affected the war.

[seabeyond]

44. wink...

and i am guessing from your name, you would be in the know.

:headbang:

[backscatter712]

2. MURICA!!! FUCK YEAH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

[LaurenG]

3. haahaahaa - right it's all her fault.

Where is your sarcasm smilie?

[SoDesuKa]

8. No Need

This is the honors section. Tell a joke with a straight face, they don't just sit there stupefied.

[avaistheone1]

4. And the rest is history.

lol


:rofl:

[Hepburn]

5. Well, her and all the filthy, war-protesting 60's hippies...

...like me!

:patriot: PROTEST IS PATRIOTIC!

[dtexdem]

31. And draft dodgers! Don't forget us draft dodgers!

A Vietnam Veteran Draft Dodger, and proud of it! (And I successfully dodged even though my birthday came up as #1 in the draft lottery.)

[hlthe2b]

6. I'm declaring Thursdays to be NO STUPID day....

Please ensure all future posts take that into account... :crazy:

[fascisthunter]

7. one would have to be a severe coockoo bird to believe that tripe

[Octafish]

9. No. Ollie North said it was the Media's fault.

Ollie never lies, apart from that treason with the Iranians.

[tavalon]

18. Yeah, apart from that

[ProfessorGAC]

20. And Apart From That Lying About The Treason

Other than that, he never liers.
GAC

[Me.]

10. Maybe You Should mention That Theory To Your History Teacher

[shraby]

11. Are you serious???

[WinkyDink]

35. The grammar is a clue. ;-)

[H2O Man]

12. Since none of the

very, very bad things that we were told would happen if Uncle Sam didn't hold the line in Vietnam actually did happen -- no dominoes a'atal -- maybe we did win.

[liberal N proud]

13. If it hadn't been for her and those who stood with her - we would still be fighting in Vietnam

Until Americans stand up and protest Afghanistan, we will remain there as well, feeding the military industrial complex.

If you don't use the bombs, you don't need to build more bombs.

[leftyladyfrommo]

14. I always really loved her hair. n/t

[tblue]

15. Dang she's gorgeous!

Thank her and all the protesters who wanted the killing to stop, especially those who didn't want to be drafted.

I just watched Coming Home. She's an amazing woman who's got guts. Yes let's drag her over the coals once again.

[FarLeftFist]

16. Their was no winning that war. It was doomed from the start.

[Golden Raisin]

48. As we should have figured out

from the French and their Vietnam experience. And lo, decades later, in a somewhat parallel situation of ignoring historical precedents, we're pissing away billions and up to our eyeballs in Afghanistan, which has tossed-out, defeated and sent home many diverse invaders/occupiers going back to Alexander the Great.

[WI_DEM]

17. I'm sure this is not serious, but no one person, of course, is responsible for the opposition

to the Vietnam War. Many protesters in the USA helped demonstrate the immorality of the war, and in fact, it could be argued that Fonda's hanging out with the Vietcong actually hurt the anti-war movement.

[Bandit]

19. What makes you think we lost?

We are on very good terms with Vietnam and have good trade relations... We vacation there and they vacation here...I don't see where anyone lost except the hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese we killed...

[Scuba]

21. Try 2 million Vietnamese, plus 58,191 + Americans.

[Enrique]

22. we were so close

Jane Fonda is the Steve Bartman of the Vietnam War.

[lunasun]

32. Maybe that is when all our senseless killing / wars will stop... when the Cubs win the World Series

[LeftinOH]

23. That was precisely the lesson as by my high school government/history teacher;

he was a complete idiot. And the infamous mug shot is from two years before her trip to 'Nam -she was arrested for "drug possession", but was soon released because the pills turned out to be ordinary vitamins --which had been given to her by Al Lewis ('Grandpa' from the Munsters TV show).

[CJvR]

24. Failing...

...to show the Tet offensive as the defeat for the VC that it was and sponsoring coups to sink whatever legitemacy the regime actually had were far worse blunders for the US than one celebrity traitor.

[coalition_unwilling]

27. The 1968 Tet offensive may have been a major tactical

defeat for the 'VC' (sic), but it was a major strategic victory for the NLF, the NVA and the Vietnamese people. Why is that? Because Westmoreland's strategy (if one can call it that) was based on a doctrine of 'attrition,' i.e., if we stayed there long enough, we could attrit enough NLF and NVA forces to cause Ho's government to sue for peace on terms favorable to us and our puppets in Saigon.

Westmoreland landed at (IIRC) Tan Son Nhut airport in November of 1967 and said in front of the television cameras for the nightly news back home that he (and, by extension, the U.S.) was beginning to see "the light at the end of the tunnel." Meaning, i suppose, that Westmoreland was saying that the strategy of attrition was starting to bear fruit. Hah! Not two months later, the NLF and NVA showed exactly what that light at the end of the tunnel really was, i.e., the locomotive of Vietnamese nationalism coming down the tracks at the U.S., tied to the tracks by 20 years of lies and failed policy.

So what Tet 1968 demonstrated was that Westmoreland's strategy of attrition was an EPIC FAIL. And really, who should have thought any differently? Ho Chin Minh had famously said that the Vietnamese could afford to lose 100 soldiers for every 1 soldier the U.S. lost and could afford to maintain that loss ratio in perpetuity until the U.S. occupiers left and Vietnam was united.

Edited for clarity and some pernicious typos.

[Lint Head]

25. 50,000 dead Americans and lying about the number of Vietcong killed were the

two things that solidified the anti war demonstrations. Nice joke though.

[vets74]

39. McNamara said is was 3,400,000 Vietnamese. Official US Army count is the 2,600,000.

[qb]

26. Jane Fonda rocks! As for the Limpballs propaganda in the OP...

:eyes:

[Joe Fields]

28. And how did you come about that little piece of pretzle logic?

I DO hope you were sarcastic. Otherwise, you have no business being here.

[coalition_unwilling]

29. General Giap had absolutely nothing to do with it - n/t

[dtexdem]

30. I would love to think so, but it's wishful thinking.

Yes, our protests did help end the war; but it was not nearly that simple. But once again, hurrah for Jane!

[Brother Buzz]

33. Jane Fonda must have been in bed with the Army, the Air Force, and the Navy

I've been told by a Marine holding court on a bar stool that we'd have won that war if it hadn't been for the Army, the Air Force and the Navy.

[SoDesuKa]

37. And HE Would Know

The Marines are America's badasses. If you're looking for reasons why we lost a war, don't look at them.



Let God Sort 'em Out

[WinkyDink]

34. Yeah, just like Korea!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

43. She cost us Korea too? She must be older than she looks.

All those exercise videos must be working.

:hi:

[KamaAina]

36. Did you forget something?

Like this?

:sarcasm:

[vets74]

40. G.R.O.W.

Get Rid Of Westmoreland.

[Taverner]

41. It's sad that I need to point out the OP is sarcasm

[vets74]

52. Oh, ya think....

Be careful with that.

[uppityperson]

42. With the way DU is these days, best to include this...

:sarcasm:

Yay Amurca! WE're numero UNO!!!!111

[qb]

47. Agreed. You often need to know the source in order to distinguish satire from genuine RW lunacy.

I've been fooled by headlines from the Onion & other satire sites before I realized the source.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

45. Can we blame her for losing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan too?

[L0oniX]

46. LMFAO

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[in_cog_ni_to]

50. That's a beautiful picture of her! n/t

[Brigid]

51. Westmoreland was playing "chess;" Giap was playing "go."

That is why we lost, despite anything Jane Fonda did. BTW, I did get the OP's joke. ;)