For those who know about these things, what is the dif between Four Loko and a Baileys Coffee?

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I'm guessing that Four Loko appeals to the kids more and easier to obtain? It's a cheap way to get drunk quickly. Unfortunately, it's not something that is very forgiving as you go about finding your tolerance levels. Other than that, isn't it the same mix combination of alcohol and caffeine as a Bailey's Irish Coffee?

[Drale]

1. Well from what I remember about high school health class

you are not supposed to mix uppers and downers. Meaning don't mix alcohol and caffeine. I think one of the things is that young people who tend to over do it are going to drink four loko and its probably going to be older folks who know when to stop, that are going to drink Bailey's coffee.

[NashVegas]

5. No Kidding

This is something every 10th grade kid gets tested on and discouraged from doing.

[MH1]

14. 'Every'??? I suspect you're sadly wrong on that.

I had reasonably good D&A ed in school but I remember it was controversial then, and that was before a massive rightward tilt in this country.

I've always assumed that more conservative districts don't teach the good info I was given. Of course I hope you are right and I am wrong!

[hobbit709]

2. Bailey's and coffee taste better.

[NightWatcher]

3. Or Red Bull and vodka, yum

[HopeHoops]

4. Four Loko - sugar water, caffeine, cheap booze. Bailey's (or other brand) - fine coffee experience.

I get the local brand of Irish cream. It is much less expensive and there's no difference in flavor from Bailey's. That's good coffee. But you don't pound that shit down at a bar. That's weekend morning relaxation fluids.

[Erose999]

6. It is offered in fruity flavors and colorful packaging. Probably packs more of a wallop than

a Bailey's coffee as well, as one 24oz. can of Four Loko is supposedly equal to 4 12oz. beers and 3 cups of coffee. Four Loko is 10% alcohol by volume. God only knows how much caffeine is in there, as beverage makers aren't required to list that.

I have some friends who love it (responsibly, of course). Personally I think it tastes like turpentine and sugar.

[gratuitous]

11. 24 oz size versus 8 oz size for one

And yeah, the target market for each is a little different. At 10% alcohol, one 24 oz. Four Loco has as much alcohol as a six pack of beer, and the market for Four Loco has been carefully conditioned to pound down its beverages in multiple quantities in as short a time as possible. The potency of the drink, coupled with the presence of caffeine and the inexperience of young consumers, yields a pretty good recipe for alcohol poisoning.

[dionysus]

7. dunno, i just bought one out of curiosity because they won;t be restockingthem.i wonder how they are

[NashVegas]

8. It's Bailey's IRISH CREAM, Not Bailey's Coffee, Oh Disingenuous One

Bailey's doesn't sell coffee with booze in it.

In addition, Bailey's is 17% ABV, for a 1.5 oz serving size. Drink it straight and you'll maybe have 3 oz.


Four Loko is 12% ABV, but you'll drink 8 times as much with just one can.


FAIL

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9. Bailey's Coffee

Everyone knows it's a mixed drink. Well, most everyone.

But thanks for the alcohol comparison. That's what I was looking for.

[NashVegas]

10. Bailey's Does Not Produce Or Sell Coffee

And if you look at the recipes on their website, the one drink they mention w/coffee calls for no more than 1/2 oz coffee.

Four Loko, OTOH, is produced and marketed to encourage idiots to do US citizens PAY to teach every 10th grader not to do.

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13. I see what you're saying.

That's one of the contrasts. You have to mix Bailey's Coffee, while Four Loko is already packaged. I didn't think that was particularly important because anyone will mix whatever they feel like drinking, but when you're dealing with kids, it's probably relevant.

Now, could you clarify the following:

"Four Loko, OTOH, is produced and marketed to encourage idiots to do US citizens PAY to teach every 10th grader not to do. "

Not sure what you're getting at here. B&G films were a big part of every high-schoolers experience in my time. Four Loko is something new on the market.

[NashVegas]

16. Liabilities, Health Class

(I'm not sure what a B & G film is, sounds like something after my time.)


It's known that if you mix depressants with stimulants, the effect is multiplied.

In high school health classes, kids are taught the danger of this and taught not to do it. We - taxpayers - pay for this instruction.

We - the taxpayers - can't stop someone from mixing the two on their own, but we do have some say in what can be marketed.

But hey, I'm willing to risk a compromise: if the inventors, patent-holders, and producers of Four Loko will agree to hold themselves liable for hospital visits associated with their beverage, I'd say go for it.

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17. B&G movies were Blood and Guts movies

which showed the aftermath of traffic accidents. Most were caused by bad decisions, but alcoholism played a role in some of the cases.

In my time, adults drank like crazy at social parties which were very constant. You could smell it on their breaths at work sometimes. Therefore, kids would have a better idea of how sloppy stupid someone can get from the drinking.

That hasn't and won't stop the ritualistic coming of age that happens around the college campuses, which is why we have to keep reminding them of their mortality.

I'm happy with your compromise, as long as there are no caps.

[Toucano]

12. From the regulatory standpoint of the FDA, the caffeine in 4Loko is a food additive.

It is added to the product and is not a product of flavoring, so it is regulated differently.

The caffeine in an Irish Coffee is a naturally occurring component of the coffee used to flavor the product.

[JonLP24]

15. I think Four LoKo

appeals to people who like to get drunk on a few bucks. It is the only reason why I ever bought it. Gross stuff though.

LoKo also has other ingredients found in energy drinks besides caffeine so I believe that it separates from Bailey's. Also I believe it is a much higher alcohol content by volume. 12% in AZ. Plus 24 OZs so I believe 1 can is pretty close to a 6-pack of regular beer.

As post 1 said you shouldn't mix caffeine and alcohol because it screws up your rebound effect. The caffeine may make you feel alert and stuff, not aware how actually drunk you are so you keep drinking to get drunk. Then when the caffeine wears off you are hammered, feeling the full affects of the alcohol. (Actually didn't learn this in HS)

[rucky]

18. The target market, primarily.

This is nanny state bullshit.