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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 08:19 AM Original message |
OPERATION COOPTATION: THE DEMS TRY TO SEDUCE THE OCCUPATION MOVEMENT |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. Get on board or get out the way. |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. +1! |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
3. All these co-opting scare articles and OPs are silly and irrelevant. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Deleted message |
Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I don't believe there is such a rule |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Two points. First, the entire framing of OWS is about supporting the 99% |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. 99% is a slogan, it's not something they're going to base their decisions on |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'm going to OWS again this weekend at least once if not both days. I will ask... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. let me guess what you find |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Actually, I will get it on video. Or will you claim the video is edited? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Looks like the far left is getting anxious that their message is being rejected by |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Who is nervous? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. So that's why the polling for Democrats is getting stronger? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. How is polling for Socialism doing? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Religion? Your ignorance is showing. |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
79. They weren't a very good alternative, after all. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. You get your choices... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Is it going to filter out neoliberal Democrats? nt |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
62. What if OWS decides that what benefits the 99% is not supporting either of the two major parties and |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Not something we are allowed to advocate here - - |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I'm not saying it should be advocated, but playing devil's advocate, it's a thought that |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Maybe OWS will let the Democrats or Republicans come to them |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
64. "The filter is going to filter out most Conservative and Tea Party initiatives" - wrong.. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. "We need to be as inclusive as possible ..." |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Politics=Economics |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Alright, let's take a social issue and tell me how you plan to split the economics from it. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. You are missing the point - take care of the economics and the rest takes care of itself. nt |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. No, you're missing the point. For arguments sake, I will play devil's advocate. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. We can go back and forth saying "no you are" but that does not advance the conversation - |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. The point is, at some point OWS needs to take a stand on social issues, otherwise it flameout |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. "As far as your abortion example goes, rich women don't get abortions" lol |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Good point. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. K & R. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. OWS is more then a movement now...pass it on. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. Several weeks in and still no anti-Obama signs. Never seen anything like it |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. There absolutely were some anti-Obama signs. See the video I uploaded |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Do you have any videos of Obama's 'policies that benefit the 99%' ? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Videos of policies? Is that like the taste of a color? I can give you examples of policies. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Tax cuts, more tax cuts, ouch payroll tax cut...HOLY SHIT volunteer labor??!! |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You're reduced to playing the reactionary game of mischaracterizing programs now? Is that where you |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. It says it right there |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Deleted message |
leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. If you think members are promoting right wing ideas here, you should alert |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Tactic, not idea. nt |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Oh. So are there any other links to Obama's policies that benefit the 99%? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Let's agree to how many you want beforehand this time. How many is it? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. All the ones that would send the OWSers home feeling victorious |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. "All the ones" Ya, I expected as much. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. When are you going to call him a "bigot against the rich"? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. When are you going to address what people are actually saying instead of inventing straw men? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. That's what you actually said though. Before it was deleted by the mods. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Are you on hallucinogens or something? There are no deleted messages under this OP! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Why are some posters shocked when posts they made as long as (gasp!) a week ago are remembered? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You forgot where you outed yourself as a paid member of Boehner's staff in a post long since deleted |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I renounce John Boehner now and forever. You still cling to the "don't be bigoted against the rich!" |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Ah, its fine to do that under an assumed name but you refuse to quit your job working for Boehner. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Also pretty telling that you chose to deflect/mud sling rather than deny the truth. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. If its true, provide a link nt |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. oh |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Everytime this poster posts, lets remind people of that! nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Your schtick is both bizarre and comical. I would alert, but better to let this stand. |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
83. Kinda like every time you post, you remind people you're a partisan hack? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
65. I saw one anti-Obama sign in pictures of a San Francisco march - |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
22. First step for the Democratic party - renounce Reaganomics. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I think the proposal of an additional 5.6% tax on people earning a million or above is a step |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. The real disparity is in wealth, not income. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. +1 |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Lowering taxes on capital gains - |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
82. Clueless as always. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Good luck on that |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
63. Step 2 is renouncing Rubinomics and tossing out his cronies. n/t |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Needs to go the other way around |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. OWS's ideas are in the process of occupying the Democratic Party. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Dream on |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Funny someone calling themselves 'Deaniac' would say so considering we saw Howard Dean's |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Deaniac21 |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. Lash out at everyone! They're ALL enemies! |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Great start! Needs to last through November 2012 though |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Ah, new window treatments...... |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
84. Yeah, it's so evident in their "down with jobs, up with free trade" voting. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
60. kick |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
61. Recommended. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
78. Obama will NOT own OWS! |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
85. GOOD!! It will be even more encouraging when we see Republicans actively court the OWS movement |
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