Please help me respond this post from FB

[jorno67]

I don't want to just blabber my way through this - my first reaction is how they misrepresent OWS and what it wants...I se it as wanting living wages not govt handouts...

Her's the post:

"Pick your side: are you one of the ones griping about what they deserve and are not getting (aka the 'occupy folks') and want to rely on the government or are you one of those who will work for what you want, rely on yourself and want nothing from the government?"

[Scuba]

1. False choice. I want my government to stop taking from the poor and giving to the rich. n/t

[geardaddy]

15. +1

Plus, if they want nothing from the gov't. Let 'em build their own roads and bridges, fight their own wars, and print their own money.

[barbtries]

17. good one.

straight out the gate. :thumbsup:

[Kurmudgeon]

2. I find the "want nothing from government" comment ludicrous.

Wall Street is one of the biggest parasites hanging from Uncle Sam's neck.

[HughBeaumont]

6. Corporate America in general. And the military.

[Bonhomme Richard]

3. Or are you one of those who only ask for a level playing field and....

is sick and tired of being a sucker.

[Shagbark Hickory]

4. Don't waste your time. It's hopeless. n/t

[jorno67]

9. I'm afraid you're right...

more and more of these people will not let facts get in the way of repeating their talking points...

[Goblinmonger]

5. I agree with the above.

Additionally, I would be tempted to throw in a "so you aren't going to drive on the roads, play in the parks, allow your garbage to be picked up by the city, call the police when you are in trouble, call the fire department when your house is on fire, etc."

Ultimately, if this person really believes that you just have to work hard enough to get what you want, then there isn't much hope of getting through to them.

[HughBeaumont]

7. Ah. The "everyone who receives help is a lazy (insert racial slur here)" crowd.

"Guilty until Proven Innocent", IOW.

And make no mistake, that's what they WANT to say, and it's what they say in private, but decorum prohibits it on FB.

[Proud Public Servant]

8. Here's your response

"Pick your side: are you one of the ones (aka the 'occupy folks') trying to take back your government and make it once again a government by the people, for the people, and of the people, or are you one of those who will stand idly by and do nothing as your government is sold to the highest bidder, and who will meekly say nothing as corporations line their pockets, keep you under heel, and end the American Dream?"

[jorno67]

10. I will use this! Thank you.

[Shagbark Hickory]

13. They're just going ot go spouting on about how the role of gummit is to butt out except when it come

it comes to abortion and gay marriage and e-leeguls and wars. When it comes to those issues it's important to have a strong gummit.

[abelenkpe]

16. +1000 nt :)

[patrice]

11. Our Occupation is ALL sides. Seeking to work toward commonalities while respecting honestdifferences

http://occupykc.com/

[Earth_First]

12. Ask them about capital gains, estate, inheritence and mortage interest deductions...

and how these exclusions/deductions are not a direct result of relying on the government?

[treestar]

14. And you're going to quit your job if you work for an

industry the government bailed out, or an industry such a company bought things from, right? (Ask them that).

[jorno67]

18. here's where we've gone so far...

Rich Jorn Pick your side: are you one of the ones (aka the 'occupy folks') trying to take back your government and make it once again a government by the people, for the people, and of the people, or are you one of those who will stand idly by and do nothing as your government is sold to the highest bidder, and who will meekly say nothing as corporations to line their pockets, keep you under heel, and end the American Dream?
32 minutes ago · Like

Steve Sherfy Ah...and that would be unlike those who want to "fundamentally transform" our country into a socialistic or communistic state where you, comrade, are told where you can go, what you can do and how much you can achieve so that we are all equal?
30 minutes ago · Like

Steve Sherfy oh...wait....I forgot....it's all the bankers fault...and the business owners faults.....yea....that turned out real well the last time it was tried....in Germany circa the 30s and 40s
29 minutes ago · Like

Rich Jorn The biggest Govt handout went to wall street - or did you forget that? I don't want handouts! It's just that giving handouts to needy is not nearly as offensive as the giving them to the greedy.
26 minutes ago · Like

Steve Sherfy Actually the biggest ones went to the car General Motors...where are the protests there? And how ironic that people (you??) who are protesting Wall Street are supporting Obama, the President who broke the record for campaign contributions from Wall Street...
24 minutes ago · Like

Rich Jorn look around Steve...those protesters are not exactly supporting Obama. Clearly you have no idea what is going on with the OWS folks
21 minutes ago · Like

Steve Sherfy
From what I've seen they are, generally speaking, progressive leftist who are calling for more government control, at least when a straight answer can be gotten from them. Again, generally speaking, it is a bunch of whining about what they don't have, what is not being given to them and what they cannot get. I'm against bailouts of any kind too and "too big to fail" was a term coined by crooked politicians looking to line their pockets...no such thing as a company too big to fail. The answer for all the bailouts and chicanery in DC is less government, not more. The politicians have warped our Constitution far beyond the intentions by the Founders and the people have let them...the solutions are very, very simple if the people will only enact them.
14 minutes ago · Like

Rich Jorn Pay attention - the progressive left are extremely pissed off at Obama, but not for reasons you'd understand... Being mad and taking a stand against a broken and corrupt financial system is not whining - is it to much to ask that we have living wages like our parents did? I am fortunate that I have a good job with good pay but I see so many people with quality educations who are willing to work (and do) but do not make enough to get by without getting a second or third job. While the auto industry did get large amounts they are paying them back while Bank of America who got bailed out doesn't even pay any income tax and to say thank you to the US citizens who flipped the bill - the added a monthly service charge for ATM card holder. That's just one, there are more. Oh and by the way...Don't call me comrade or question my patriotism. Label things you know.

[HughBeaumont]

19. People who still live in the past (fighting the Cold War 21 years later) are a lost cause.

Corporations and the military are the biggest suckers of the gubmint teat.

[eridani]

20. If they want nothing from government, tell them to get the fuck off the internet

And interstate highways. Don't turn on the faucet or flush the toilet either.

[FarLeftFist]

21. Corporations are the ones who rely on the Govt