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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:50 PM
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ALF frees minks, which are promptly run over
Didn't really think that one through...
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"Unnamed activists" associated with the group Animal Liberation Front announced today that they had freed 1,000 minks from Miller's Mink Ranch in Gifford, Wash.

According to a statement from the activists: We chose to do this not because we believe that humans wearing fur is inherently wrong. Rather we think that the callous disrespect with which the fur industry treats the animals is despicable. The fact that it has become and 'industry' for the vanity and fashion of the rich is what we hate.

The Stevens County Sheriff's Office reports that 99-percent of the mink have been recovered in the last day. Several of the mink were hit by cars and died after they were released.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016495947_apwaminkrelease1stldwritethru.html

Stevens County Sheriff Sergeant Loren Erdman said the owners of Miller's Mink Ranch were able to round up nearly all of the released animals and put them back in pens. He said mink released into the wild tend to die fairly quickly, and most of the animals released early Wednesday morning stayed close to the ranch.

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/10/animal_liberation_front_activi.php
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:54 PM
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1. Well, that certainly brought positive attention to their cause.
How productive. :sarcasm:
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:29 PM
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10. Just another variation on PETAphiles.
Bunch of scummy idiots.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:01 PM
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2. Brilliant!
:dunce:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:03 PM
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3. Derp.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:03 PM
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4. Not to mention how many of thew would have starved.
That many mink, released in one location, would have quickly decimated the local food sources. Only those on the outward perimeter would have had a chance to move further out and try to continue sustaining themselves on wild prey. And that would only be those who somehow had hunting ability, after having been caged for generations.

The rest, inside that perimeter would either starve or resort to attacking and feeding off each other, which I gather is not unheard of in mink populations.

The mass release of these animals in one location was not humane.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:06 PM
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5. Was Myrna there?
Myrna Minx?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:41 PM
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13. lol. i see what you did there ;-)
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:08 PM
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Feh. Had it been cats he would have eaten them. n/t

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:08 PM
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6. That doesn't, however, make turning animals into industrial "products" any less cruel...
n/t
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:10 PM
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7. Your subject line implied they were all run over
Several out of a thousand get run over would have been a better way to describe this.

Their rationale was that a very small chance of making it in the wild trumps being most assuredly murdered for profit in the hands of the mink ranchers. Also they were trying to make a dent in the profits of the mink ranchers, who otherwise will continue to go on murdering not only a thousand but future generations of minks to come. And yes, I know that minks living in the wild will likely perish there too, but I guess the ALF simply didn't have the resources to care for all 1,000 minks.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:47 PM
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16. Thanks for a reasoned response.
:hi:
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:11 PM
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8. These over the top misguided do-gooders are causing more harm
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 01:16 PM by robdogbucky
in some of their actions than any good they hope to accomplish. Surely these acts are a PR disaster for them:



(10-09) 20:33 PDT TIBURON --

For the second time in a week, someone snuck into the Romberg Tiburon Center for Environmental Studies and cut loose thousands of young Chinook salmon being raised by students and volunteers for an annual fish restoration project.

No one has claimed responsibility for releasing the 20,000 young Chinook smolts sometime between 4 a.m. and 8 a.m. Saturday, nearly a month ahead of schedule. On Oct. 3, more than 40,000 Chinook raised by students from Petaluma's Casa Grande High School, in partnership with the Tiburon Salmon Institute, were also released prematurely...

"...These people who did this are cowards and they're not going to show their faces," Halsey said. "I'd love for them to tell me who they are and meet them face to face. The big question is, what did they accomplish by this?"

Animal rights activists have criticized the pens used for the project as "filthy" and "overcrowded..."

...After the first incident, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals issued a press release noting that "forty-thousand young salmon are swimming free in San Francisco Bay this week after someone cut the netting of their cramped holding pens..."

E-mail Benny Evangelista at bevangelista@sfchronicle.com.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/09/MND51LFICR.DTL#ixzz1amTMhJwD





FBI investigates vandalism of Tiburon salmon pens


Monday, October 10, 2011

(10-10) 09:24 PDT Tiburon, Calif. (AP) --

Federal and local authorities are investigating vandalism at an environmental studies center that led to the release tens of thousands of baby Chinook salmon from holding pens, a practice animal rights activists have criticized as inhumane.

On Saturday, for the second time in a week, someone cut the pens' netting, releasing 20,000 juvenile salmon called smolts nearly a month ahead of schedule

More than 40,000 fish being raised by students at Casa Grande High School in Petaluma in partnership with the Tiburon Salmon Institute were released early on Oct. 3...

...After the first release, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals applauded the net cutting, calling the pens cramped.

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Information from: San Francisco Chronicle, www.sfgate.com


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/10/10/state/n092456D98.DTL#ixzz1amSxStUV




Not to mention that those smolts were all no doubt lunch for the other predator fish that live in the SF Bay.

What does PETA do besides piss people and responsible fishermen off? I am all for the ethical treatment of animals but I must draw the line somewhere. These reactionaries are giving responsible environmentalists a bad, bad name. Why don't they put that much energy in fighting the proliferation of nuke plants? Or of tar sands pipelines? Or of fracking? Or of deepwater drilling?



Just my dos centavos

robdogbucky
A catch and release fly fisherman


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:11 PM
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9. As god is my witness, I thought minks could fly. n/t
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:35 PM
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11. Did I hear someone say "Mink juice?"
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:35 PM
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12. Sounds like a Souh Park episode
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 01:56 PM
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14. Mink flavor Road Pizza n/t
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:45 PM
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15. Being run over is a much more merciful death than
the way they are killed in the fur farms.

Unfortunately, no federal humane slaughter law protects animals on fur factory farms, and killing methods are gruesome. Because fur farmers care only about preserving the quality of the fur, they use slaughter methods that keep the pelts intact but that can result in extreme suffering for the animals. Some animals even wake up while they are being skinned. Animals have clamps attached to or rods forced into their mouths and anuses, and they are painfully electrocuted.

www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-clothing/fur-farms.aspx
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Hun Joro Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 04:19 PM
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17. +1
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 04:53 PM
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18. Yes, EXACTLY! nt
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:38 PM
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21. Seems I've heard this bizarro logic before..."in order to save the village, we had to destroy it..."
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:42 PM
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22. What do dead mink have to do with the Vietnam War? n/t
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 06:18 PM
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31. If the analogy is over your head, there is no need to duck. Or reply. n/t.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:50 PM
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24. I seriously doubt that.
Maybe if the animal is ran directly over and dies instantly, possibly.

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:53 PM
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26. There was only a small percentage of them that were run over.
I hope they all died instantly. At least they did not have to be subjected to torture before dying.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:58 PM
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27. "I hope all died instantly"
A good portion of them had their tales or limbs run over, and they lingered painfully until run over again, dying slowly from blood loss, etc.

"only a small percentage were run over"

And the others will slowly die of starvation, predation, fights with the other escaped mink.

"At least they did not have to be subjected to torture before dying"

I think you know full well they're worse off in the wild.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:20 PM
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32. Only if you view starvation/predation as worse than torture
and confinement, which I don't think is necessarily the case. Also, the torture of animals would continue unless it was somehow addressed, and here the ALF tried to put the mink ranchers out of business by releasing all the minks. The chances that this would actually work were very remote, but a tiny chance is perhaps better than no chance at all. (FDR was criticized for not blowing up the train tracks that led to Auschwitz, an action which would probably not have meant that Jews wouldn't have been murdered in other ways (such as by the SS), but blowing up the tracks would certainly have had a small chance of of impeding the Nazis onslaught of the Jews.) It needs to be considered that after this 1,000 were tortured and killed by the mink ranchers, more and more would follow, so trying to end this practice does make sense. (The chances that The White Rose would have succeeded were quite remote too, but something had to be done.)
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 04:54 PM
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19. free the minks!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 04:56 PM
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20. I love how we're supposed to worry about them perishing in the wild
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 05:45 PM by Codeine
but not about them perishing in captivity by having electric prods shoved up their asses to electrocute them.

Frankly the ones who were run over got the most humane end any of them will have.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:44 PM
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23. Exactly. I have posted before about the awful deaths involving electrocution. n/t
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 05:51 PM
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25. Anal electrocution is more humane than perishing in the wild.
Also, there's the practical use of the fur.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 06:05 PM
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28. I just hate this kind of stuff.
Those poor animals.

There are these guys out there opening the cages and going "run free, live free"! Those poor little guys just die. They starve or get hit or freeze to death or whatever.

The place to fight this is in the courts not by causing the deaths of thousands of animals who haven't done anything to anyone and have no idea how to live free.

I hate the whole concept of fur. But it needs to made illegal.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 06:06 PM
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29. Who? This guy?



You'd think he'd want to eat them
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 06:11 PM
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30. Nah, just cats... n/t
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:28 PM
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33. thank you for your "concern"
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