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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:12 PM
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In Private, Wall St. Bankers Dismiss Protesters as Unsophisticated
In Private, Wall St. Bankers Dismiss Protesters as Unsophisticated
By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ and ERIC DASH
Published: October 14, 2011

Publicly, bankers say they understand the anger at Wall Street — but believe they are misunderstood by the protesters camped on their doorstep.

But when they speak privately, it is often a different story.

“Most people view it as a ragtag group looking for sex, drugs and rock ’n’ roll,” said one top hedge fund manager.

“It’s not a middle-class uprising,” adds another veteran bank executive. “It’s fringe groups. It’s people who have the time to do this.”

As the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations have grown and spread to other cities, an open question is: Do the bankers get it? Their different world view speaks volumes about the wide chasms that have opened over who is to blame for the continuing economic malaise and what is best for the country.

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“Who do you think pays the taxes?” said one longtime money manager. “Financial services are one of the last things we do in this country and do it well. Let’s embrace it. If you want to keep having jobs outsourced, keep attacking financial services. This is just disgruntled people.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/business/in-private-conversation-wall-street-is-more-critical-of-protesters.html?_r=1&smid=tw-nytmetro&seid=auto


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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:15 PM
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1. All is well, remain calm...
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 09:15 PM by Arctic Dave
I'm not scared...you scared?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:29 PM
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8. name a time when fuckers like this were ever right about the incoming
tide.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:15 PM
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2. May their insufferable arrogance be their undoing.......

May the Plutonomy go down in


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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:21 PM
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4. +1
With any luck at all.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:20 PM
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3. Perhaps they've never heard of
Marie Antoinette?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:54 PM
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15. Great minds and all that.
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:21 PM
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5. Why not? Our own party looks on us as fringe.
Only in election times are we considered not fringe.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:23 PM
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6. Translated Since the Bankers call themselves Middle Class,
the working Middle Class would seem like fringe to them.

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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 06:42 AM
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29. They think they're the HUMAN middle class; we're the ELOI middle class
Edited on Sat Oct-15-11 06:42 AM by txlibdem
Keep (them) moving, moving, moving
Though they're disapproving
Keep them doggies moving
Rawhide

Don't try to understand 'em
Just rope, throw and brand 'em
Soon we'll be living high and wide

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/blues+brothers/theme+from+rawhide_20020777.html


:puke:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:25 PM
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7. Dipshits...no surprise
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:35 PM
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9. Yes, those bankers so smart & sophisticated they avoided Great Recession for us & foresaw OWS.
Please...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:15 PM
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19. Sad thing is the people that foresaw it tried to make money off it instead of raising red flags.
Ie Goldman and Paulson.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:09 PM
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23. That true, too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:36 PM
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10.  If the financial services that crashed the economy are our best,
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 09:36 PM by EFerrari
we are fucked. Oh, wait, we are fucked.

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:42 PM
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11. These people have time because they have no jobs.
What a bunch of short sighted self righteous fools.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:43 PM
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12. One layoff away from a ledge. n/t
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:51 PM
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13. They're so very wrong, and they are in for a big, big surprise.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 09:52 PM by Zorra
Would you please pass the Grey Poupon?

It goes so well on bankster fondue.

I understand it was considered a delicacy in France back in the 1790's.
;-)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:53 PM
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14. I'm sure that's what Marie Antoinette thought, too. n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:07 PM
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16. In private, bankers took horrible risks and crashed our economy
proving to the world that they have dreadful judgment.

So much for their opinions.

And, in fact, the hedge-fund managers don't pay much in taxes at all.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:12 PM
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18. They depended on unending growth. Apparently that doesn't work.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:11 PM
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17. These people are such fossils. Stuck in the past
talking about "hippies", "sex, drugs, rock and roll", "Woodstock". WTF? As if FORTY YEARS passed them by without noticing. Fucking clueless.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:17 PM
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20. The bankers, and their major customers, are the middle class. The rest are servants and scum.
I wish people would just get over, and stop wasting our time with, the stupid idea that the bankers are somehow profoundly ignorant or uninformed. They know what's happening, they've planned and watched it for a decade, and they're quite happy with the way the last ten years have turned out.

And for what it's worth, he's actually more correct about who the middle class is than all the information workers who think that they're middle class.

If you manage working-class people for the upper class, then you're middle class. If you do productive work for a living, you're working class. This includes intellectual labor of all sorts.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:19 PM
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21. Wall Street caused this crisis by lobbying for
market deregulation and a loose debt policy.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:19 PM
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22. Wall Street caused this crisis by lobbying for
market deregulation and a loose debt policy.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:21 PM
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24. If I wrote what I was thinking right now, I would be banned from DU. But
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 11:24 PM by coalition_unwilling
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:08 AM
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25. Its not so private
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:24 AM
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26. That argument works in reverse.
Greed to the point of blindness, stupidity, criminality, and sociopathy is also unsophisticated.

Wall Street crooks are only sophisticated when it comes to lying and self-justification.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:42 AM
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27. "If you want to keep having jobs outsourced, keep attacking financial services"
The parasites are the very reason why jobs get outsourced to begin with. Isn't the moron that made the quote confusing effect with cause? Jobs are being outsourced because it is beneficial to financial services companies to outsource jobs, in search of the very last penny of profit.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:46 AM
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28. I wonder if that is what the ruling class in Russia said when...
the communists formed the first Soviet at Petrograd?
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