UK Scandal exposes LIBYA intervention orchestrated by NEOCON and PNAC operators

[Distant Observer]

If you wondered why the same PR firms, propaganda techniques in Libya seemed familiar, it's because it is.
At least the British Gov radical turn to taking Libya by force was driven by the same people behind the Rumsfeld/Cheney New American Century approach.


It really seemed like a stretch at first, but that seems to be what is coming out. Obama was taken for a ride!
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/15/liam-fox-resignation-exposes-tories?newsfeed=true

Liam Fox resignation exposes Tory links to US radical right

David Cameron has been accused of allowing a secret rightwing agenda to flourish at the heart of the Conservative party, as fallout from the resignation of Liam Fox exposed its close links with a US network of lobbyists, climate change deniers and defence hawks.

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An Observer investigation reveals that many of those who sat on the Anglo-American charity's board and its executive council, or were employed on its staff, were lobbyists or lawyers with connections to the defence industry and energy interests. Others included powerful businessmen with defence investments and representatives of the gambling industry.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/15/liam-fox-atlantic-bridge?newsfeed=true

Liam Fox's Atlantic Bridge linked top Tories and Tea Party activists

Officially it was a charity; in fact, Fox's thinktank was a meeting place for the movers and shakers of the right wing

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Its formidable connections to leading Tories were eclipsed only by its links to senior members of the US Republican party. The Republican senator for Arizona and Senate minority whip, Jon Kyl, and Jim DeMint, a Republican senator for South Carolina and a leading light in the Tea Party movement, were two powerful American members of its advisory council.

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Members of the Galen Institute, a thinktank which promotes "freemarket ideas in health", attended its conferences while the failed bank Lehman Brothers, sponsored at least one event, as did the powerful neocon thinktank the Heritage Foundation.

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. Ruh Roh

[TheWraith]

2. Of course, this has nothing to do with Libya whatsoever, but that doesn't matter.

All that matters is the spin. After all, it's not like France made the first steps to intervene, not the UK. Oh wait, it's exactly like that.

[Distant Observer]

4. Oh, libya is just about humanitarianism. So goes the usual propaganda line

[Distant Observer]

5. Just accidental that UK Foreign Min and Defence Min were part of aorg with shadowy pnac/neocon ties

[Aerows]

7. And Italy...

... who gets how much oil from Libya, again? Nah, couldn't be about oil.

[Distant Observer]

21. The blatant corruption of the Western/Saudi scam at the expense of African blood is amazing

[Rex]

10. This is about PNAC...do you know who that implies?

Nice distraction, but mega fail.

[Distant Observer]

23. So dissapointed with Dems who don't realize the bloodshed has no good end

[Distant Observer]

31. PNAC is about maintaining US global economic dominance using military power -- not worked

so well in this century so far.

[EFerrari]

3. The truth hurts. Invisible rec.

[Aerows]

8. I'm not blind to the geopolitical implications

And no amount of telling me I should be, have to be, or need to be for the sake of anyone's political agenda is going to make me be geopolitically blind.

I'm just happy there are other people like yourself that have their eyes open, too. It's just not right to ignore the fact that for one minute we loved Libya, and then when they discussed nationalizing their oil and lowering the amount European countries could extract, suddenly it became an imperative to "save" them.

I can't ignore it, and won't ignore it. To me, it's another example of what our global economy is doing wrong, and how disaster capitalism is profiting off of the blood and treasure of all of us.

[EFerrari]

14. Sirte has a population of about 75k. They've had no water, no electricity

and no food for weeks. There's nothing humane about that.

It's not easy or pleasant to point out our government's bad policies. But, that's pretty much our job as citizens, isn't it?

[Distant Observer]

15. BBC: Every building at least partially destroyed by NATO strikes or NTC missiles

[Aerows]

19. It's disgusting

It's wreaking havoc on human beings so someone can profit.

[Aerows]

18. It is. And when we fail in that duty

We fail our society.

[Distant Observer]

24. Well, how many are left. New regime strategy is to depopulate and kill all who dare stay

who I assume are viewed as "rats" ala the Gaddafi rants.

Not sure what's the difference except in scale -- the new regime seem willing to kill on a massive scale.

[snappyturtle]

22. +1000 ! nt

[Aerows]

6. It's not like Uganda has oil

Oh wait...

[Distant Observer]

9. What has a few soldiers on the ground in Uganda got to do with 20.000 missions against Libya

by the full NORTH ATLANTIC ALLIANCE backed by the money and special forces from the Gulf kings and Emirs?

[Aerows]

12. Because you and I both know it won't stop there

It never does.

I'm actually agreeing with you, by the way. Just maybe not in the exact way with the same exact facts you may like me to agree with you :D.

[Distant Observer]

20. You mean this: "Fresh Uganda Oil Find ‘Africa’s Biggest’"

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29410.htm

[Distant Observer]

11. Swanson's April analysis "Another NEOCON WAR" was spot on!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/21/libya-muammar-gaddafi

[newspeak]

34. besides the death toll

the global corporations use our treasury like their own bank account; also our soldiers. the PNAC agenda to me, is to steal as much resources as possible. any leader even thinking of nationalizing their oil or resources against these greedy vampires might get a rude awakening. We love you as long as you play to our corporate buddies, even against your own people--don't tow the line, well you're an evil dictator that needs removing; unfortunately sometimes for another evil dictator.

[inna]

13. k&r (+8) and thank you; will try to come back later

[malaise]

16. There's a good piece in the Guardian showing that

Fox is one of the Cheneyites in the Cabinet - so is Osbourne - they have been weakened badly here.

Cameron et al are RW scumbags.I don't know how the LibDems remain part of that coalition

[Distant Observer]

17. The PNAC crew roped Obama in and now orchestrate wiping out all vestiges of independence in Libya

[malaise]

25. Liam Fox resignation exposes Tory links to US radical right

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/15/liam-fox-resignation-exposes-tories
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David Cameron has been accused of allowing a secret rightwing agenda to flourish at the heart of the Conservative party, as fallout from the resignation of Liam Fox exposed its close links with a US network of lobbyists, climate change deniers and defence hawks.

In a sign that Fox's decision to fall on his sword will not mark the end of the furore engulfing the Tories, both Liberal Democrat and Labour politicians stepped up their demands for the prime minister to explain why several senior members of his cabinet were involved in an Anglo-American organisation apparently at odds with his party's environmental commitments and pledge to defend free healthcare.

At the heart of the complex web linking Fox and his friend Adam Werritty to a raft of businessmen, lobbyists and US neocons is the former defence secretary's defunct charity, Atlantic Bridge, which was set up with the purported aim of "strengthening the special relationship" but is now mired in controversy.

Fox's organisation, which was wound up last year following a critical Charity Commission report into its activities, formed a partnership with an organisation called the American Legislative Exchange Council. The powerful lobbying organisation, which receives funding from pharmaceutical, weapons and oil interests among others, is heavily funded by the Koch Charitable Foundation whose founder, Charles G Koch, is one of the most generous donors to the Tea Party movement in the US. In recent years, the Tea Party has become a potent populist force in American politics, associated with controversial stances on global warming.

[fascisthunter]

26. all the people the PNAC and right wing have killed and harmed

there will have to be justice for the world to heal.

[Distant Observer]

27. Some Dems supported this PNAC scheme for good, but the cauldron of hatred and death was predictable

[malaise]

30. They should all be tried for war crimes

and locked up. Some should be tried for treason

[bvar22]

32. They didn't have to "rope" him very hard.

It now looks to me like he was spawned and groomed by PNAC from the very start
with close attention to marketing details.

Even his speaking slot at the Democratic Convention 2004 now appears to have been arranged for
maximum exposure with an eye on the 2008 election.
How often does a Freshman State Senator gain a prime spot like that?



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their Slick Marketing Brochures.

Solidarity!
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[Hotler]

28. k&r n/t

[SpiralHawk]

29. The OctoShark of Doom (R)

[bvar22]

33. Well DUH!

"They" Piggy-Backed on the legitimate uprisings of the Arab Spring to annex Libya.
(See: Naomi Klein, Disaster Capitalism)
"They" didn't even bother to update the marketing for this new addition to The WARS.
"They" simply scratched out "Saddam", and penciled in "Gaddafi".

"OMG, he's an EVIL dictator who kills his own people!!!
If you're not FOR the New WAR in Libya,
you're WITH The Communists AlQaeda The Terrorists Saddam Qaddafi!!!"

The only surprise for me was how many, even on DU, unquestioningly bought this transparent, recycled marketing for a NEW WAR
so soon after Iraq.
WTF?

The real reason WHY we are in Libya:
We are going to turn it into a NeoLiberal Free Market HELL
with the Global Banks, the Global resource Extraction Corporations, and the IMF OWNING Every-Fucking-Thing...
Just. Like. Iraq.

” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html

Africa IS the Last Frontier for the Global Financial Predators.
Gaddafi (warts & all) WAS the last real road block.
He was using profits from Libya's Oil to undercut the Western Banks & the IMF.


If you're not FOR the New WAR in Libya,
you're WITH The Communists AlQaeda The Terrorists Saddam Qaddafi!!!

[Distant Observer]

35. Transparent, recycled marketing for WAR, but even more ruthlessly brutal to any opposition