Should Bill Clinton go to the streets to rally with #OWS?

[RandySF]

He would lend a powerful, cohesive voice to the rally. But protestors welcome him, or believe he was part of the problem?

[Skittles]

1. NO

NAFTA ANYONE?

[tnlefty]

7. +1

:kick:

[joshcryer]

2. Nope, he'd be bashed.

Protesters would welcome him, but he'd be bashed by supposed progressives.

[DURHAM D]

5. So true. nt

[white_wolf]

17. Don't you think he deserves it?

Why do you as an anarchist support a leader of a former capitalist state? I'm not trying to attack you, I'm legitimately curious because that seems at odds with anarchism.

[joshcryer]

19. I support the respect of other human beings.

I do not feel that human beings are being respected by certain groups who have vile cruel belief systems and rhetoric. (Note: this includes the cops busting heads in down at OWS.)

I do not think Clinton or anyone else should try to take a leadership position in OWS, but by the same token, I know that these are human beings and that if he were to show up, or anyone in a leadership role in the Democratic party who has a positive view, they would not be booed out of the place, particularly if they didn't attempt to take a leadership role. But they'd still be bashed by internet warriors because they'll make garbage lies up like the Democrats are trying to take shit over, and so on (I went through this same thing with Libya and I proved everyone wrong on that count).

Fact is the armchair internet warriors that are so damn vocal these days don't represent a physical reality. They represent some sort of preconceived notion of reality that is virtualized.

[white_wolf]

31. I respect his rights as a human being.

However his polices were terrible and harmed a lot of people. If people started booing him or telling him to go home I wouldn't blame them. If they actually tried to harm him or even wished harm on him, then I would have a problem.

[gateley]

3. Doesn't matter how he'd be viewed, I doubt he'd make an appearance.

Do you think he would?

He's too ensconced, IMO.

[CTyankee]

29. I just wonder what he'd say in the first place?

I'd truly like to know whether he feels this demonstration is historically inevitable, but I doubt if he would expound on that publicly, even if he DID believe it...

[gateley]

34. Yeah, it's hard to second-guess whether or not he still gets it,

or if he's numbed himself like the rest of those who have so much.

Although I've never been a big fan of his, my sense is that he DOES care and sees the injustices even though he had a hand in bringing them about. What do you think?

[CTyankee]

42. Oh, I think he knows full well what is going on.

He's too damn smart not to. I get the feeling, altho of course I don't really know, that he is sorry for some of the things he did. He actually has apologized publicly for not doing something about the genocide in Rwanda, hence his humanitarian work in Africa.

[Modern_Matthew]

4. What a joke. nt

[lunatica]

6. If he's a politician who did something to create the present problems

he part of the problem. It doesn't matter that a lot of people like him. He did his part, and it was no small part, to create the problems we have today. He needs to stay away unless he's invited, because the OWS and the 99% are not in the mood to coddle anyone who has made themselves wealthy while screwing the middle class and helping the corporations.

Sorry, but in this instance it doesn't pay to pretend everything is OK. It isn't and he's contributed to it.

Now if he apologizes and admits he fucked us over it could be a different story, but as far as I can see, he's made friends and become a pal to the Bush family while doing nothing much for the rest of us.

[leftstreet]

8. The king of Wall Street deregulations? lol n/t

[Hutzpa]

21. kick

:kick:

[MADem]

9. Well, he won't, so it's pretty moot.

He could lend a kind word or two.

[davepc]

15. Yeah "I'm REALLY sorry I signed all those (R) deregulation bills in the 90s!"

Bill Clinton is part of the reason why all this is going on in the first place.

[girl gone mad]

10. The economic ideas he endorses represent the antithesis..

of what these protestors are fighting for.

[LeftyMom]

11. Somebody doesn't get it.

:rofl: Bill Clinton. :rofl:

[gkhouston]

12. I don't give a shit about his opinion of OWS, and anybody who

needs to have a celebrity tell them what they should think about OWS is an idiot.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

13. Sure, he can hold a "Reinstate Glass-Steagall" sign along with the many others.

Are people really *that* clueless as to what OWS is about?

[Umbral]

14. I think the proper reply is: OH FUCK NO!

[Youth Uprising]

16. No.

That backstabbing neo-liberal pos does not belong anywhere near OWS. This is the People's movement. He shares the blame for helping create the conditions that led to this mess in the first place.

[JI7]

18. up to him, he can go if he wants to, aren't the Anarchists and Ron Paul types there

so why can't Clinton be there also ?

[Hutzpa]

20. Hell to the NO

that is the last person they will want to see there.

Mr NAFTA himself.

[cherokeeprogressive]

22. I don't think the OWS people, in whatever city they're in, support ANY current politician.

After all it's the POLITICIANS that put us in this mess by codifying greed in the form of tax legislation containing loopholes big enough to fly SPACE SHUTTLES through in accordance with what goodies the lobbyists handed out.

Stay Home Willy J, and let this thing run its course.

[brooklynite]

39. They won't be getting much accomplished then...

Unless you visualize the Bankers waking up a al Ebeneezer Scrooge and recognizing the error of their ways, the only practical way to effect change is through legislation, executive branch policies, or Court rulings. All require the involvement of politicians.

[Contrary1]

23. No, thank you. n/t

[sabrina 1]

24. No, he caused some of the problems, such as ending Glass Steagal

that has led to the World crisis people are now out on the streets over. And rescinded the Media Fairness act which led to the Corporate Ownership of the media.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Clinton? As an example of the hand-in-glove corporate politics they're fighting?

You've obviously forgot the :sarcasm: attachment in you OP.

[IDemo]

26. No

But, on the other hand, he might make an excellent prop.

[MadHound]

27. The man who deregulated the financial sector even more than Reagan did?

The man who set us up for this epic financial failure? That Bill Clinton?

I don't think it would be a very good idea.

[malaise]

28. The only ex-President who would be welcomed is

Jimmy Carter.

[Starry Messenger]

30. No.

[PETRUS]

32. Maybe if he loudly and publicly recants and apologizes for his administration's record. nt

[EFerrari]

33. Hell no.

[Better Believe It]

35. Clinton was a major leader of the drive for Wall Street deregulation.

Clinton signs repeal of Glass-Steagall Act

[RainDog]

36. lol. Clinton is part of the problem. n/t

[RegieRocker]

37. NO

[eridani]

38. Only if he went there to apologize profusely for Glass-Steagall n/t

[KoKo]

40. ROFLMAO! I can't cough out anything else.

:eyes:

[WinkyDink]

41. Um....No.