The wingers are pissing their pants with fear that we will make common cause with 'conservatives'.

[mahina]

I caught Glenn Beck whining and ranting to Billo on Fox last night. Apparently all the OWS protesters are Marxists, communists, and the whole OWS movement is designed by Barack Obama, who is goes without saying is a Marxist as well.

They are in code red freakout that the obvious common interests and common purposes between us and our republican or apolitical right leaning neighbors will bring us together into the streets, against them. Campaign finance reform especially holds the potential to cause an earthquake.

On our Honolulu protest FB posts and twitter posts, winger shills spam the daylights out of people who stand up for the march. They are tripping!

Common cause is where it is at.

[Poll_Blind]

1. Yep- I'll bet they are. The concept that this notion might cross party lines is...

...sending many into colonic spasms the likes of which have probably not been felt among the "elite" in this country for 30, 40 or more years.

PB

[vets74]

39. How's this for you ???

This has spread Boston, New York so far.



Add: SOCIAL JUSTICE and/or FAITH, HOPE & CHARITY ? Get a hand out to the religious conservatives.

Bust up the corporatists for 30 years.

[Poll_Blind]

43. Perfect!

:thumbsup:

PB

[elleng]

2. YES!

Just saw The Music Man, a real American story, getting our HOPE back!
Thanks for saying this, and logically that 'original' t-baggers as much grass roots as OWS!

[white_wolf]

3. OWS is made up fully of Marxists, Communists?

How odd, I only counted 4 at mine including myself. Beck is full of shit. He's coming to Knoxville I really want to protest him, but it would do no good.

[vets74]

40. Go down and laugh at him.

Indulge your sadistic tendencies.

[girl gone mad]

4. A ot of Democrats share the same concern.

Have you ever seen the vitriol directed at Jane Hamsher because she found common cause with a conservative against government corruption in the bailouts?

[lumberjack_jeff]

20. They don't have a monopoly on freakout mode. n/t

[Ikonoklast]

29. Hamsher is a 1%er.

Her 'politics' are making money.

[Jim Warren]

5. I'm a uniter

not a divider

[Warpy]

6. The OWS people already have, to a certain degree

I said a couple of weeks ago that I found more than a few of them to be remarkably conservative.

This is the mainstream. It's the exact center, where all the polls say the center is, not a bunch of pundits and paid off politicians.

And they're sick of getting screwed without getting kissed.

[mahina]

10. Word,

[vets74]

41. Several card-carrying Catholics on-site at OWS, sleeping-there at Liberty Park.

These folks are in their righteous indignation mode.

I need to buy a gross of small red-plastic pitch forks.

[KurtNYC]

7. it's a new world

the old guard MSM is road kill in this thing

the 2 party monopoly may be next

neither of those entities really saw this coming and even if they did, they didn't know what to do about it

[leveymg]

8. common cause may be good on the street, but bipartisanship has been a disaster for BHO

It failed to produce legislative results and just moved policy
and politics further to the right.

[LWolf]

35. That's because

"bipartisanship" is a disaster when both parties are corrupt. They don't need to serve us, as long as the partisan propaganda machines are working full time to keep us divided while they move the corporate agenda forward.

[leveymg]

37. +1

[woo me with science]

9. We are the 99 percent!

The attempts at division are going to come fast and furious. I am so proud of the protestors so far for staying united.

[mahina]

11. Me too!

[AmBlue]

12. YES!!! Once we have unity on major issues, their gig is OVER.

And they KNOW it. We are pulling back the curtain on their bullshit and they can't stop it now.

I've always said this is not a right/left thing. Rather, the wedge constantly driven between right and left with social issues, and the vitriol it generates is all a magnificent distraction. Wake up everyone you know! It's an UP/DOWN thing.

The 1% against the 99%. If the 99% is awake, and working in common cause, the 1% cannot win. Period.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Glenny, Glenny you cannot be a marxist and a fascist tool at the same time

So what is POTUS, a Marxist, a fascist or a Muslim furiegner?

[peace frog]

14. He's a Muslin Satinist, of course

Learn to spell like a teabagger, whydoncha. ;)

[JVS]

27. In Glen's cosmology marxist and fascist are synonyms. I guess he's lied so much that...

he's actually afraid of the figments of his imagination.

[malaise]

15. They should listen to Washington Journal this morning

Ah well

[jowsybart]

16. both gop & dem forums enforce dogma purity to prevent common cause in working class majority

both the dem and gop top hierarchy make sure that dem and gop activists are not able to find common cause. One way they do this is by enforcing dogma/doctrine purity on internet forums. if you go on a gop or dem internet forum and try to say that the other side may have a good point on a particular issue, you will be banned.

This way the base cannot unite against the rich. Keeping us divided is how they do it, and one way of doing that is making sure that the dem chocolate does not get smeared with GOP peanut butter and vice versa.

[piratefish08]

17. so are the Democrats - don't be naive. they ALL have skin in this game. it's no longer the good

guys vs. the bad guys...............

[butterfly77]

18. Kicked&Recommended...

[lonestarnot]

19. I think we should send them wet wipes for their arses!

[bvar22]

21. Absolutely Agree!

When The Working Class & The Poor realize WE have more in common with each other
than we have in common with the RICH Ruling Class Politicians of BOTH Parties,
WE will have "CHANGE".

Our neighbors in South/Central America have given us the Blue Print.
What they have accomplished are nothing less than near Bloodless Revolutions.

"The worst enemy of humanity is U.S. capitalism. That is what provokes uprisings like our own, a rebellion against a system, against a neoliberal model, which is the representation of a savage capitalism. If the entire world doesn't acknowledge this reality, that nation states are not providing even minimally for health, education and nourishment, then each day the most fundamental human rights are being violated."
----Bolivian Reform President Evo Morales

FDR said much the same thing in 1944 with his Economic Bill of Rights,
but FDR and THAT "Democratic Party" are long dead.
However, it might be possible to resurrect the old Democratic party from the remnants in the Progressive Caucus.

Our neighbors in Latin America DO have one advantage we don't have in the USA.
They have Fair, Open, Transparent, Verifiable, Internationally Monitored Elections.
We don't have that in the USA,
and neither dominant Political party is interested ig giving that to us,
so we WILL have to deal with that first.


VIVA Democracy!
Spread the WORD.
Find Common Cause.

[LWolf]

22. He would have been horrified by my local gathering yesterday.

A common theme: We're not republicans or democrats, we're not the left or right wings, we're the people. The 99%.

[salin]

23. same with ours

[mahina]

32. :)

[LWolf]

34. It seems like we may have finally found a way

to bridge the divide created by those who have something to gain by dividing the masses.

[mahina]

31. That is so exciting to hear!

Awesome! Thank you for sharing that!

[Zorra]

24. IMO, conservatives will turn OWS into the DLC.

In the time it takes the wingers to change their underwear.

Bipartisanship in political activism has the same effect that it has in politics.

It scrambles the message, and neutralizes the effectiveness of the group.

[JVS]

25. I don't understand their concern.

Conservatives don't like OWS, and that covers both the bible thumpers and the country club republicans.

[H2O Man]

26. Recommended.

I agree.

[Fuzz]

28. Don't forget, OWS is also full of smelly hippies who have sex, shitting and doing drugs in the park

too all while trying to take down the world economy and turn the world into a post apocalyptic hell scape.

[backscatter712]

30. Exactly. It feels soooo damned good to see the Gadsden Flag flying for the good guys again.

Speaking as one who's been at #OccupyDenver, we do have tea-partiers there, united with us liberals.

That's what the power-elites fear the most. They want to divide us, and we've finally managed to get a movement that unites us.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

33. George Will is doing the opposite.....

.....all the OWS people are freaks and once America sees it they will stand tall with the Republicans.

Asshole.

[vets74]

42. Drinking again.

[dreamnightwind]

36. K & R for common cause

I've been preaching this to anyone who will listen for years now. Glad to see it finally beginning to happen.

We really can take our country back if we unite against the oligarchy. But there's no way the left can do so without help from the others who are also victims of corporate exploitation.

I don't know how this whole issue fits with Democratic Underground, seems like it falls outside of the site's original directive, which was all about rebooting the Democratic Party. I'd welcome changing DU to be able to advocate for bottom vs. top rather than just for Dem verses Repub. The reason I see such a change needed is that sometimes the corporatists we need to oppose are Dems (though there is pretty much never a Repub that deserves support over a Dem).

And hey mods, how about letting this post ride rather than deleting it, we should be allowed to discuss this here. Thanks.

Also thanks for the OP, it is right on.

[CoffeeCat]

38. Glenn Beck's popularity is tanking...

...and I think Beck is taking a dive because many of the previously fooled--are waking up.

They're realizing that Glen "My hair is on fire every day" Beck is a snake-oil salesman who
is full of crap. There will always be a certain percentage of Beck's audience that is in
the tank--no matter what bullshit he says. They're a lost cause. Forgettaboutem.

However, this movement is peeling off the people who were once fooled and are waking up.

Beck lost his television show and is solely on radio now. His schtick is being terrified
and making all kinds of ridiculous assertions. Have you listened to his circular, twisted
logic? "Bill Ayers supports OWS! Bill Ayers is a violent criminal! The entire OWS
movement is funded by and supported by these Marxists...these violent Marxists! And Obama
is a Marxist, as we all know!! And it all started with Woodrow Wilson!"

Seriously. It's like political alphabet soup. Beck is ridiculous.

Look at the popularity and approval numbers of OWS--greater than Obama's numbers, greater than
the tea-party's numbers, greater than Congress's approval numbers.

Won't be long now...

[mahina]

44. I love how he cloaks himself in collegiate attire, collegiate props,

but didn't actually finish school. I'm not a snob about school. It took me a lifetime to graduate. Just noticing the bogosity of his schtick.

[mahina]

45. I'm all for common cause.

I guess that is obvious.

Still anchored in progressive values, but I see the importance of reaching out. We've been divided and conquered, and it doesn't serve us.

If you think the Dems on the continent are DINOS wait till you get a load of the Hawaii lege. Not our Senators, esp. Senator Akaka, but in our lege, pretty much everybody runs with a 'D' after their name, or they will lose.

We have some work to do to clarify what that 'D' means to the people. Had to censure someone for campaigning against the party. In that sense, because he stepped on us, there is a line that shouldn't be crossed, party-wise.

Anyway, aloha, peace.

[AverageJoe90]

46. So are much of the media, it seems.