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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:59 AM
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Rahm Emanuel decides public employees must use public transit

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Rahm Emanuel decides public employees must use public transit

by Sarah Laskow
14 Oct 2011 11:28 AM


Employees of the city of Chicago are going to have to get used to taking the bus and the subway. Starting next year, they’ll have to use public transit, unless they have a really good excuse and are down for filling out a lot of paper work. Whose idea was this? Mayor Rahm Emanuel, of course.

Rahmbo doesn't want city employees on official business to take their personal cars or #*(%&@ cabs. They're public employees; they'll take *#@%(& public transit!

This isn’t just for green reasons; it’s also because Chicago -- surprise! -- is totally corrupt. Apparently city employees were taking advantage of the reimbursement system, and the city was paying for car washes and parking tickets. The new policy's supposed to save $1 million. ..........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.grist.org/list/2011-10-14-rahm-emanuel-decides-public-employees-must-use-public-transit



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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:02 PM
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1. So Rahm is including himself in this, right? Right? n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:16 PM
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6. Series!111!!! His personal carwashes would probably pay most of our bills for a year (or two).
Fish spoils/rots from the head.

Just another Limo Liberal.... aka "DINO". Not a damn thing "D" about that political operative.

And here I am thinking I couldn't hate him any more than I already did.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:05 PM
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2. sounds like a good policy to me
:shrug:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:09 PM
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3. Yep. For once, I'm in agreement with Rahm.

nt

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:09 PM
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22. I'd hate someone telling me how to travel to and from work. None of their business
incentives, yes. Mandates, no
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:15 PM
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4. I actually agree with this one...
I have worked as the Office Manager for a construction company (where many of our projects were within the area of the loop/downtown).

I was the one who had to enter and seek approval for expense reports - seriously recieved reports that subbmitted charges to park at the BUILDING NEXT DOOR, when I knew for a fact that they commuted via METRA or had a parking pass for our building. On these attempts, it would actually take more time to drive 2 blocks than walk.

Not saying this is what happens everywhere, but as someone who has had to deal with flack about approving/not approving things - this makes sense. I once had someone try to submit expenses for a haircut. Seriously? There is room for abuse with this one, and I think that the transit system is just fine to use for most people in most situations
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:16 PM
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5. If Chicago
public transit is like others, it will take these employees three times as long to get their travel done. Not much of a money saving device.
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:25 PM
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7. How about just not reimbursing for parking and car washes?
Then the employees can decide if they want to pay for their own parking or not.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:31 PM
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8. Sitting in traffic in Chicago can take far longer.
nt

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 01:04 PM
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13. Maybe requiring government folks to endure it's the thing that'll get it improved. (nt)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:33 PM
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18. Yeah, because teachers and govt Dilberts have that kind of clout.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:23 PM
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15. As a big city, it's probably more like Philadelphia, which has very good public transit
I hate it when I have to drive in to work instead of taking transit for some reason.

That said, a mandate seems rather extreme. Why not just give free transit passes, while taking away free parking and any other car-associated perks? If people have to pay their own gas and parking vs. taking transit for free, many will switch of their own accord, once they figure out the logistics.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:14 PM
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25. It's not like a lot of other places.
Chicago's mass transit is only #2 to New York's, and miles ahead of every other city in the US. I've lived in Chicago for 19 years and not only have never owned a car during all that time, I've never wanted one and frequently been grateful that I wasn't stuck with one.


But I would really only applaud Rahm's attempt to impose this if I knew for a fact that he had sworn to live by it every day himself.



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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:45 PM
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9. Nothing wrong with that as long as . . .
. . . Rahm the 1%er is leading by example.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:58 PM
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10. I am actually all FOR that. It works great, as long as the public transit system
functions well and provides adequate service. This could be a good way to ensure that it DOES, lol.

Of course in Lost Angeles this would be a major FAIL. Our transit system is specifically designed to serve people who work 8-4 on weekdays. Minimal midday and evening service, and less than minimal weekend service. Public servants wouldn't be able to GO ANYWHERE during their work hours, lol. It would take them hours and hours, standing and waiting for late and missing and nonexistant buses.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 01:00 PM
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11. I like it.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 01:03 PM
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12. Going to make the Police ride the bus?
Edited on Sun Oct-16-11 01:04 PM by Downwinder
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 01:08 PM
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14. That'd probably fit under the security exemption. (nt)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:30 PM
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16. Wow. This seems illegal, unless the city is paying for the transport. And filling out forms if one
Edited on Sun Oct-16-11 08:32 PM by WinkyDink
wants or needs to drive after work where only cars or taxis would go (taxis are not "public transportation," their being privately owned)?

Let's see if Rahm follows his on edict.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:17 PM
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23. The city IS paying, because this only applies to ...
... city employees "on official business".

What they do on their own time, with their own money, will still be their choice.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:33 PM
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17. I dig it
I wish more people took advantage of public transportation.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:35 PM
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19. Gee, somehow he doesn't think the children of said employees must attend PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
You know---to SUPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION.
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onpatrol98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:27 PM
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27. Wouldn't people think he was crazy?
How could he think he would have the right to tell his employees where to send their kids? Heck, where does he send his kids? Not, that I care. I don't. I agree with another poster. Stop subsidizing travel by personal vehicles. Stop paying for tickets and car washes unless Chicago public employees have crappy parking situations.
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Silver Swan Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:40 PM
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20. I worked in downtown Chicago for 35 years
I can count on one hand the times I did NOT take public transportation to work.

I could never understand why anyone would choose to drive to work.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:47 PM
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21. Because you get "paid" for parking, carwashes, maintenance, etc.
...Even if you're really just taking the train.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:23 PM
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26. +1
Anyone who willingly drives into the Loop and then pays parking charges there is as dumb as a box of hair. There are SO many places where you can park safely and take the train the rest of the way if you work downtown. And you can even read or nap the rest of the way!

(Full disclosure: I live in Humboldt Park and work in the Loop. I have to take a bus and transfer to the Blue Line. It takes about 45 minutes. Not only am I cool with this, I cherish the reading time!)

I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who've convinced themselves that they MUST drive directly to their downtown office jobs. What bullshit.


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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:05 PM
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24. Which bus/el does Rahm take to and from work?

Someone needs an ass-kicking. Just sayin'.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:33 PM
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28. Seems reasonable as long as it is just work related business
and they can drive their own vehicles to and from work if they wish.
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