Cyrano
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:31 PM
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Will Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld ever have to stand trial for crimes against humanity? |
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Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 02:42 PM by Cyrano
There is no statute of limitations on murder or mass murder.
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, as far as most civilized people are concerned, should be tried for mass murder regarding Iraq.
Evidently President Obama doesn't agree with us, or he finds it politically inconvenient to pursue. Does this make him an accomplice after the fact?
Obama will never pursue this, nor will any Republican president. Is it possible that in 2016 we will elect a president that will pursue it? I'm not holding my breath for this to happen.
I'm not sure at what age I learned that everything we learned in school as kids (aside from the three Rs) was total bullshit.
But if you haven't yet caught on, everything we learned in school as kids (aside from the three Rs) was total bullshit.
So here's my question. Does anyone think these pricks will ever be brought to justice for anything? And if not, why not just toss our national and international "justice" systems out the window?
And one more thing. What's to stop any future president from doing anything he/she wants to do?
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:32 PM
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* unless one of them gets stopped in another country and they have the stones to hold them..
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:36 PM
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2. There will be no move to bring to justice! Unless they go to Spain! |
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This is the same flawed logic that led to the decision of pardon Nixon. the nation needs to get on with its life and put this garbage behind us. Unfortunately, there is probably no justice for these creeps anyway. The court system is so flawed and Bush/Cheney spent a whole lot of time politicizing the DOJ, it would be hard to come up with a competent prosecutor. On the other hand, I would like to see Eliot Spitzer hired by DOJ to go after Wall Street. Now that would mean some justice for the american people from the wholesale looting by the WALL STREET HUSTLERS.
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:37 PM
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3. Not as long as the Obama administration has anything to say about it. |
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If anyone could have gotten behind a movement to hold these criminals accountable- Obama would have been in the best conceivable spot to do it. Unfortunately, President Obama hasn't just "turned a blind eye" to their criminal activity, he has continued and expanded the core tenets of many of those policies.
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:39 PM
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:41 PM
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6. I don't feel that Obama has worked one iota to punish members of the Bush administration for... |
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..their crimes. Do you feel he has? If so, what action has he taken?
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:00 PM
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10. My "yes" was in agreement with your conclusion that he has turned a blind eye |
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He hasn't done shit. Nor will he. Why? I really can't understand this man.
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Wed Oct-19-11 04:03 PM
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16. right....not under this admin, obama said we will move forward...with huge step backwards! |
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:39 PM
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4. International justice is for Serbian Generals and puny little countries we won't help like Rwanda. |
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International Conventions against Genocide and War Crimes have no application in practice to any U.S. President or Cabinet Officer.
Here's the separate rule of state: "If the President does it, it's legal" - Richard M. Nixon
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:44 PM
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7. You never know. It's a possibility. |
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I would have said no before OWS, but the public explosion of the 99% was so unlikely that it's success is incredible. Now I'm not so sure Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld are as safe as they think they are.
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:50 PM
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But it's certainly noble to work towards justice.
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:59 PM
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9. If they do, it won't be because of American initiative |
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We're so petrified of our home-grown international criminals, we won't even investigate their wrongdoing, let alone prosecute it. The lawless Bush administration has incomprehensibly gotten a full pass from the Obama administration, which can't quite figure out a way to sell the notion of following the laws of the land to its own citizenry. It's pitiful, and leaves us wide open to the righteous wrath of our victims since we can not or will not police ourselves. And if you think the only people who are likely to get hurt are the actual perpetrators of these crimes against humanity, think again. Then think one more time. If you're truly all right with the notion of being blown to bits by a bomb meant for Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld or Rice or Powell or Feith, then the course we're on is the right one. For anyone else, I'd have to think that we would object strenuously to paying with our lives for the crimes of the Bush administration.
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:05 PM
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11. It's taken decades to bring other scum to justice unless they lost a world war |
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I have hope that Stupid, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Addington, Gonzales, Yoo, and the rest of them will live long enough to face prison.
Cheney won't live that long, but he's in the worst prison I can think of, trapped inside a rotting body that he's too frightened to give up on.
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:23 PM
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12. no, because most americans won't support the penalty for these crimes, |
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which would be life imprisonment or execution.
and if you can't imagine what the consequences of trying to do so would be, then i can't help you.
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:37 PM
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13. Sorry, "freedom and JUSTICE for all" isn't applicable for American war criminals. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:40 PM
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15. Not as long as the us remains a superpower |
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Capable of protecting them.
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Wed Oct-19-11 04:31 PM
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17. There is probably no statute of limitations on their crimes |
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...and so if we have an administration or Atty General with some balls, it could happen. I just hope someone does before one of them kicks the bucket.
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Wed Oct-19-11 10:40 PM
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18. They'll have to give an account before God, here on earth? Probably not. sadly. |
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I understand that may offend some here, but that's how I see it. I'd ship them both to The Hague with a bow on top if I could.
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