Rachel has me in tears re all these beautiful animals

[malaise]

dragged from their natural habitat to end up slaughtered because of one fucking moron.

[proud patriot]

1. it's just so tragic

:-(

[RKP5637]

2. I don't see why they just didn't tranquilize them. n/t

[Brickbat]

5. In short, because tranquilizing an animal is a lot slower, harder, more expensive, and dangerous

than what you see in a movie.

[RKP5637]

25. Thanks! n/t

[tammywammy]

6. They tried

Tranquilizing doesn't mean the animal immediately goes down. A vet got close enough to a tiger and hit it with a dart. Then the tiger charged after the vet and was shot. That's when the sheriff and others involved decided shooting the animals was the only option. You had wild animals on the loose, nightfall was quickly approaching as well as poor weather.


Per Jack Hanna:
"Hanna said tranquilizing wild animals is not as easy as many people believe.
“I’ve been out all over the world tranquilizing animals,” he said. “Can you imagine trying to tranquilize an animal in the dark. Fine, we have a spotlight. We hit it. You don’t know exactly: Did you hit a muscle? Did you hit a bone? If you hit the bone, the plunger might not work and put the medicine in. So what do we do? Then we send a veterinarian or the sheriff up there to see if the animal is down, right? What’s gonna happen if the animal is just sitting there not even asleep? You’re dead.”"

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/jack-hanna-on-zanesville-ohio-animals-we-would-have-had-carnage/

And:
The sheriff described how he instructed his deputies last evening that "if the animals looked like they were going out, they were going down."

Today, he said, a veterinarian working with authorities was able to get close enough to a 300-pound tiger to fire a tranquilizer dart at the animal. But the tiger "went crazy," Lutz said, and "our officers put it down."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/10/19/141496789/posse-continues-hunt-for-escaped-animals-in-ohio

[malaise]

10. Difficult call

What a tragedy. :cry:

[tammywammy]

11. Agreed. Awful all around.

I wish the man had just called the zoo and then shot himself. He should never had been able to have all those animals in the first place, but releasing them like he did ensured their death. :(

[malaise]

12. The man is an ex con who was sent to prison over

weapons and animal cruelty. How the fugg was he allowed to have all these animals?

[chollybocker]

14. wtf?

That info makes it even worse.

[malaise]

24. Ed Shultz will discuss this after the break

on M$NBComcast.

[valerief]

22. Freedom. Liberty. Bootstraps. Individualism. Guns. Pit bulls. Jeebus. nt

[teddy51]

13. Not only that, but he cut the fences that housed the animals so they couldn't

be returned there if they had been caught. Apparently the guy had a criminal record as long as my arm as well.

[RKP5637]

26. Thanks!!! Interesting and informative! n/t

[myrna minx]

3. .

:cry:

[The Wielding Truth]

4. Another example of the cost of deregulation. This outcome was horrific!

[tnlefty]

7. I don't think it was just one fucking moron, those who

allowed him to have those animals are also morons and as far as I'm concerned should be shot in the ass with a cannon.

I was astounded when I heard on the list of animals the ones who are endangered: cheetahs, Bengal tigers, leopards and all of them dead because of moronic humans.:grr: :grr: :grr:

[malaise]

8. Valid point

:hi:

[teddy51]

9. I'm with you. This problem in Ohio didn't just come up yesterday, it has been

around for some time. None of these animals should have been allowed to be held by private individuals, Period. Why was it taking so long to address this?

[tnlefty]

15. I don't know, nor do I understand why it is allowed as this place

didn't seem to be a sanctuary for animals. There are sanctuaries in this state, but they are regulated, for now at least, and checked on. The elephant sanctuary is one, there is a wolf, wolf-hybrid sanctuary a few miles from me, there is a woman who takes in snow leopards and cares for cubs until they are old enough to go to zoos, and she lives around Nashville.

Apparently the problem in OH was long in the making and was to the point that former Gov. Strickland was trying to get legislation about having wild animals in the private hands of humans severely restricted and Kasich has ignored it.

Problem long time in the making, that's for sure and humans shouldn't ever have wild animals without severe restrictions and a specific purpose as far as I'm concerned.

The animals always seem to pay a very heavy price for the stupidity of humans.

[Flubadubya]

17. Yes, and Hannah's comments about the political aspects were, well, interesting....

It sounded to me like he was trying to more or less exonerate Kasich and to blame Strickland for the policies that led to all this, all the while saying he didn't want to "get into the politics" of it. :shrug:

I really don't know Jack Hannah's political persuasions but I got a strong hint that he was trying to debunk Rachel's notion that the Republican/Kasich efforts to stifle regulation was to a large part responsible.

Anyone else have a take on this?

[teddy51]

19. Yep, I picked up on that as well and figure that he is certainly right leaning if not

a Repug.

[malaise]

21. Yep he sounded like a card carrying

ReTHUG

[tnlefty]

23. I didn't see Rachel's show as I usually catch it on the replays...

I saw it this morning when the mr. woke me up snoring at 4.:blush: So I'm sure I'll see her show later, and if that was what Hannah was implying it further lessens my opinion of him.

Jack Hannah annoys me as he still thinks it's a grand idea to keep whales (captured in the wild, as opposed to injured that can't be returned to the wild) in captivity for supposed human enlightenment no matter how miserable the animals are, so I can't address anything that he said on Rachel's show, I can only mention that I find him irritating.

Animals who are injured in the wild, rehabbed and still won't survive in the wild, I don't have a problem with being used to educate humans...Dollywood has a small sanctuary for bald eagles and some other raptors. If/when they can be released they are...some of them are used for shows, and I'm okay with that. There are nesting bald eagles there, and their offspring leave their parents who can't leave and survive, and I admire their efforts and all people who rehab raptors and other wild animals. :toast: to them all.

If it is the repupliks efforts in that state to ignore control of these animals, then a pox on them all, and with my General Assembly being in repug hands, it may be coming to a neighborhood near me. Assholes.

[a la izquierda]

16. People here in central Ohio...

are fuming pissed off. Most realize that the logistics the cops faced were really tough. There are no laws preventing this sort of thing. And all those beautiful creatures.

[teddy51]

18. It's horrific that this could happen. Seems to me that the asshole that killed

himself decided in advance that he was also going to have these beautiful creatures killed as well. After all, he was in jail partly due to animal cruelty.

[Logical]

20. 1,400 children will die of Malaria today. Keep it in perspective.