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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:04 AM
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Researchers aim to resurrect mammoth in five years

Researchers aim to resurrect mammoth in five years


by Shingo Ito

TOKYO (AFP) – Japanese researchers will launch a project this year to resurrect the long-extinct mammoth by using cloning technology to bring the ancient pachyderm back to life in around five years time.

The researchers will try to revive the species by obtaining tissue this summer from the carcass of a mammoth preserved in a Russian research laboratory, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported.

"Preparations to realise this goal have been made," Akira Iritani, leader of the team and a professor emeritus of Kyoto University, told the mass-circulation daily.

Under the plan, the nuclei of mammoth cells will be inserted into an elephant's egg cell from which the nuclei have been removed, to create an embryo containing mammoth genes, the report said.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:07 AM
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1. I was thinking about something similar not even five minutes ago
wondering what the first ancient animal to be "reborn" would be. I guess I know now!
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:58 PM
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38. I always figured it'd be the Dodo. nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:07 PM
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39. Oh yes, The Ugly Chickens..
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:28 PM
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49. It was reborn and served as the pResident of the United States
for eight years!

:D
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:08 AM
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2. Mammoth sashimi?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:08 AM
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3. what a waste of money
I'm sure millions will be spent to resurrect a dead species

why not spend the money to help preserve the species that are endangered now

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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:33 AM
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14. There is no way to know what they will find out as they proceed. Knowledge isn't a straight line
often times amazing discoveries are made while pursuing something completely different.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:11 AM
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23. Research is never a waste.
It expands the sum of human knowledge. The techniques, processes, and even failures may aid related research in genetic, cloning, and other sciences in the future.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:09 AM
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4. real life Jurassic park.
:scared:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:09 AM
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5. Shit - you'd think they'd do a T-Rex instead so they could have something REAL to destroy Tokyo.
Think about how much they would save in special effects on the next movie!

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:10 AM
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6. When can we start hunting them from helicopters?
I hear it's all the rage in Alaska....





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DUgosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:11 AM
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7. Haven't they seen the old movies?
This never ends well.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:02 PM
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46. You think they say "Here, hold my sake! Watch this!"?? n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:11 AM
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8. Completely insane.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:39 AM
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17. Why?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:12 AM
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25. Oh, I don't know. Like---the environment is completely different. Like--we should strive to keep the
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 11:12 AM by WinkyDink
animals we have (perhaps the JAPANESE can cease their whaling?).
Like--the WM might not be immune to today's viruses. Like--the food base for the WM might also be extinct.

Is this just an experiment in order to EAT THEM? To put them in ZOOS?
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:41 AM
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28. It's an experiment to see what we can learn about them
I don't think any one suggested that they will be unleashed in to the wild. So I don't see why you would have a problem with this.

And I never liked the argument that we shouldn't study certain science because there are more important issues in the world. We can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:35 PM
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52. Yep, we can walk and chew bubble gum. We just can't do it without
tripping over the crack in the sidewalk.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:11 AM
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24. Why do you say that?
I think it's a fascinating way to stretch our genetic and cloning know-how.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:13 AM
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26. Not a fan of cloning. Not a fan of resurrecting the dead. You see where I'm going with this?
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 11:14 AM by WinkyDink
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:47 PM
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30. in No-Time at all they'll be wanting to clone Reagan
chanting "Bring Back the Gipper"
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:31 PM
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51. Reagan never LEFT.
Alzheimers took the body. It's his insane, mean bastard policies that are currently stenching up the minds of both parties.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:11 AM
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9. History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men


That said, I hope it works!
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:13 AM
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10. Holy shit...next they'll try to clone Reagan.... nt
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:13 AM
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11. Bring it! Next up, T-Rex! nt.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:29 AM
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12. THE DANCING BANANA SMILIE!!!!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:37 AM
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15. Awesome, Isn't It?
Me like. Me want.



:P












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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:55 PM
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32. Here's a dancing monkey for you too
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 01:02 PM by SoCalDem
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:29 PM
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35. Oh, sweet! Thank you, SoCalDem!!!
:hug:

:P

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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:32 AM
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13. Mehhhhh, DNA will be too damaged.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:38 AM
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16. Hell: the planet is already starting to crawl with knuckle-draggers
This would only be right.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:44 AM
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18. This would give Limpballs the knuckle dragger a pet.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:59 AM
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19. mixed feelings
on the one hand, we don't have enough wilderness left for modern elephants. And Asian elephants that were used in the timber industry are out of work. Elephants are smart, what is doing to the mother elephant to implant this embryo, physically and emotionally?

On the other hand, it would be cool to see and my kids would love it. Moreover, if global climate change results in a new ice age, we could use some mammoths. And if humans were the cause of the species to go extinct, then it would be nice of us to bring them back.

So I'm torn.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:52 PM
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37. I don't think it would be a problem for the surrogate mother
This procedure has been done before, with an endangered species, the gaur. A domestic cow carried a gaur embryo to term, although the baby (well, the 80-pound baby) lived only two days before dying of dysentery, unrelated to the cloning. http://www.advancedcell.com/press-release/advanced-cell-technology-inc-announced-that-the-first-cloned-endangered-animal-was-born-at-730-pm-on-monday-january-8-2001|Press release here>

I remember reading at the time that the mother was very motherly. She completely accepted the baby as her own, even though, as one writer commented, he didn't look like the other kids. My guess is that there would be no physical or emotional trauma to the elephant involved.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:24 PM
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48. yeah but I'm thinking
that mammoth new borns are quite a bit bigger than asian elephant newborns...I'm not sure about it though.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:07 AM
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20. cool!
Maybe the technology learned can assist with preventing extinction for animals that are threatened today.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:08 AM
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21. LEAVE RONALD REAGAN ALONE
:)

LET HIM REST IN PEACE:)
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:09 AM
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22. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. I can't wait to get my paws on that mammoth!
Zeke: Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. I can't wait to get my paws on that mammoth!
Soto: Nobody touches the mammoth until I get that baby.
Zeke: First I will slice its hindquarters in sections. I'll put the white meat on one pile, and the dark meat on another.
Lenny: Hey, knock it off. I'm starving.
Zeke: Next, the shoulders. Occasionally tough, but extreeeeemely juicy.
Lenny: I told you to knock it off!
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:17 AM
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27. Link?
I'm not going to make a knee jerk reaction until I see the source of this info.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:46 PM
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29. sorry - here it is
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:50 PM
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31. Lemme edit that quote:
"I own an island, off the coast of Costa Rica..." Akira Iritani, leader of the team and a professor emeritus of Kyoto University, told the mass-circulation daily. "Really spectacular, spared no expense."
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:56 PM
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33. They've been working on this for decades. Happy that they are getting close!!
I'm excited that it seems to be getting close to a result, finally. I would LOVE to see this.

On the other hand, those resources might be better used to save the existing species who are on the brink of disappearing, but the paleo-geek in me really wants to see an Ice Age species come back to life. We really should be able to do both. What's needed is a passion and love for the natural world, for all species. And what they learn from resurrecting the mammoth might be applied to saving today's endangered species also.

Then again, they *have* been working on this for decades, and I've been waiting all this time. Who knows if they will pull it off, finally? Maybe it's too soon to celebrate.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 01:00 PM
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34. What about a mammoth that sounds like Ray Romano?


"You're an embarrassment to Nature! Did you know that?" :rofl:
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:38 PM
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36. That is so cool.
Its been discussed as possible for a long time. Glad to see them make the attempt.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:10 PM
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40. And I, for one welcome our new Mammoth Overlords
Um, I meant PACHYDERM, PACHYDERM Overlords.

Whew.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:12 PM
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41. I'm not understanding the hostility, particularly as it pertains to endangered species of today...
Why is it so different from, say, discovering a small herd of mammoths on a remote island somewhere? Would you same folks not be first in line to fight to preserve them?

If the tiger or the humpback whale were to go extinct, would you just shrug your shoulders and give up on them if we had the scientific means to bring them back?

And beyond that issue, don't you see the value in actually examining a member of an extinct species in order to learn more about WHY it might have died out and what we can do to prevent it in the endangered populations of today?

This seems like a positive thing to me, I'm not getting the negativity on this one.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:29 PM
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42. Too many popular movies; not enough science.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:36 PM
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43. Lot of posters that are ardent technophobes.
Probably the same people that hate NASA because they think humans have no right to colonize other words because we are evil.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:39 PM
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45. Condors. Condors are on the verge of extinction.
If I were to create a flock of Condors on this island, you wouldn't have anything to say.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:37 PM
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44. Awesome. We hunted them into extinction, I don't see the problem bringing them back.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 10:05 PM
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47. THIS KIS WAY TOO COOL!
We also have good genetic samples from other arctic beasts like the woolly rhino, and a giant lion, and a few other things. MEGA FAUNA. I would travel great distances to see this.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:31 PM
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50. Then they'll breed them down to a trendy teacup mammoth that will fit in a Murakami Vuitton
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 09:37 PM
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53. ..
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