Good on Jack Hanna for all that he does for animals

[undeterred]

Hanna told Sawyer that when the wife of Terry Thompson, the man who released the animals and then committed suicide, arrived on the scene, she was shaking and angry.

“She said she was coming to rip me apart because I was taking her animals,” said Hanna, who is helping move the remaining animals to the Columbus Zoo in Powell, Ohio. “When she came in there, she was totally not – just nothing was left. Her husband had just committed suicide. … She has 30-something animals laying there in her driveway that are gone. … She was shivering. I hugged her. I started crying with her.

“I could have yelled at her – you know … to lose 18 Bengal tigers in the world today is beyond a tragic loss,” Hanna said. “I can’t describe what that does to me, along with all the other creatures. But when you see a woman that’s lost everything, what do you do? Do I sit there and yell at her? … I sit there and console her and tell her I’m going to try to help her with her animals that’s left, which is nothing, basically. That’s all I could do.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/jack-hanna-on-zanesville-ohio-animals-we-would-have-had-carnage/

[ellisonz]

1. Jack Hanna gives so much to so many through his television programs.

He's a stellar human being. :-)

[Ian David]

2. This is partially Jack Hanna's fault.

Kasich Failed To Extend Ohio Ban On Exotic Animals, Now Concedes ‘It’s A Problem’ After Police Kill 49 Escaped Animals
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/20/349054/kasich-animals-bamals/


Jack Hanna, Republican donor to Kasich: http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Jack_Hanna.php

[undeterred]

4. I didn't know that.

Never heard him say anything remotely political. (Edit: I don't have cable and I didn't see Rachel's show.) But its hard to imagine how someone so committed to animals cannot be concerned about conservation and habitat and therfore not end up on the left. It really makes no sense.

I hope this gives him cause to think things over. He seems like a good person, both in the way he treats people and animals. He is certainly in an excellent position to influence a lot of people.

[JI7]

9. maybe the whole thing is more about making money to him now than caring for animals

[Ian David]

17. More proof there is no god. Steve Irwin is dead, but Jack Hanna is still alive. n/t

[JI7]

19. yup, i always felt steve irwin really cared and loved what he did

didn't get the same from Hanna.

[joeglow3]

29. I think Hanna is 100% genuinine

He is a regular on a local radio show here and I don't doubt his love for animals one bit. Problem is, if anything, that he is too extreme in his views regards animals, similar to the Humane Society (our local HATES and constantly fights our pit bull ban).

[roguevalley]

25. my uncle knew him and Marlin Perkins when he lived in Africa.

He HATED Marlin Perkins, liked Jack Hanna. Marlin used to stage animal things to make him look like a hero. There's a show where they darted an elephant and it sat down rather than rolled over. It would suffocate if it stayed like that so they really busted an ass to turn him over. My uncle was one of them. I like Jack. He's totally into animal preservation.

[Ian David]

16. Maybe Jack Hanna just hates gays and brown people.

If you care about the environment and stuff, what other reason would you have to contribute so much money to Republicans?

[Stillwater]

20. Jack Hanna

He also supports fracking
http://www.timesonline.com/news/state/conservationist-hanna-supports-gas-fracking/article_cce6add2-a12b-51f9-8f70-555e9dc4e923.html

[senseandsensibility]

7. He was going out of his way not to blame Kasich on Rachel's

show last night. He said it's not about republican or Democrat. Except that it is. I don't think he'll ever admit that he was wrong to support Kasich, even when it helps to cause this type of tragedy. It reminds me of the teabaggers that will never admit that they are getting rolled by the corporations, no matter the evidence.

[Ken Burch]

27. Didn't know he was a big 'Pug donor.

Given that and his residency now in Ohio, I wonder if he's a descendant of Mark Hanna, the Karl Rove of the late 19th Century(Hanna was the guy who devised William McKinley's "Front Porch Campaign" and got Wall Street to buy McKinley's victory against William Jennings Bryan in 1896).

[undeterred]

28. Hanna went to college in Ohio..

and I don't think he has any family political background at all. He may really be naive enough to think he can sidestep politics but at his level of involvement in these issues, he can't.

Look at this gem:

Though unable to secure zoning as a zoo for his father's farm, the two (Hanna and his wife) opened a pet shop and petting zoo. In 1973, a three-year-old boy was mauled by a lion at Hanna's farm and lost his arm.<1> Hanna settled the subsequent lawsuit out of court, shut down the petting zoo, and moved his family to Florida.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Hanna

[Ineeda]

3. Jack is great but...

I heard him defending Kasich this morning on MSNBC about removing regulations on keeping exotic animals.

[undeterred]

5. Write to Jack: [e-mail]

I bet he would be more responsive to changing his mind after this tragedy if he got a lot of input. I'm going to write to him.

[indepat]

6. Defending Kasich in any manner is indefensible and wholly wrong-headed for Kasich is wholly

lacking any redeeming attribute imo. :patriot:

[farmbo]

13. Hanna was dead wrong about the legal impact of the Strickland Ex order...

The Executive order gave the state DNR/ Division of Wildlife and State Veterinarian's Office authority to enter property to monitor exotic animals and, where necessary, shut down the facility and legally seize the animals under nuisance law.

Hanna is spinning like a Kenmore when he suggests-- untruthfully-- that the Executive Order was not legally effective.

Kasich, per usual, ignored public policy considerations and took the extreme partisan tact of withdrawing a perfectly good executive order.

Because Strickland was for it-- Kasich HAD to oppose it; the public safety be damned.

[JI7]

14. and Hanna is a political whore who is siding with Partisan Politics over Animals

[itsallhappening]

31. What would they do with animals if they confiscated them?

There was nothing in place to deal with that.

That's the point.

[JI7]

8. i don't like him Covering for Kasich and trying to blame Strickland

and then saying it's not about politics.

Rachel did a great piece on the sale of these animals and how Republicans want to prevent any bans on it. and Hanna came on like a jackass trying to make it like Rachel was bad for making it political without responding to what she actually said.

said something about where would they have put the animals ? what has that got to do with anything ? wouldn't you still want to stop any other animals from being bought while that is sorted out.

so not thanks from me but a rather Fuck You.

it's about politics more for him than the animals.

[undeterred]

10. Write and tell him that.

If he's a donor, its political. It probably has to do with stuff the governor does for the Columbus Zoo more than something personal. I just can't believe anyone who cares about conservation and vanishing species would vote for a party that doesn't believe in global warmng.

[JI7]

11. he is purposely covering for Kasich, it's not an issue of him lacking facts

or not being informed. Rachel laid out the facts and he responded with some crap answer where he was clearly covering for Kasich even though he knew what Rachel said was right.

he was aggressive about it also. i was turned off by it

[JI7]

12. he is purposely covering for Kasich, it's not an issue of him lacking facts

or not being informed. Rachel laid out the facts and he responded with some crap answer where he was clearly covering for Kasich even though he knew what Rachel said was right.

he was aggressive about it also.

[Bake]

15. I am shocked and saddened to learn that about Hanna.

I've respected his work with animals for years. This just really surprises me.

Bake

[itsallhappening]

30. Why do you believe her?

She intro'd the segment by saying there were giraffes and camels involved.

There weren't.

What else did she get wrong? Any scrutiny of that?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

32. Converse Fallacy of Accident (Hasty Generalization) = FAIL

Rachel made a trivial mistake of detail, therefore every analysis, anything she says should be doubted.


poor reasoning skills, Mr. happening.

[Ian David]

18. The Rachel Maddow Show: Exotic animal tragedy highlights need for regulation

The Rachel Maddow Show: Exotic animal tragedy highlights need for regulation
Oct. 19: Jack Hanna, director emeritus of the Columbus Zoo and Aquarium, talks with Rachel Maddow about the tragic events in Ohio that required the killing of many exotic animals including some endangered species.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/exotic-animal-tragedy-highlights-need-for-regulation/6kvrmqi?from=

[Mimosa]

21. Totally agree.

No individual should be 'owning' wild animals. :(

[undeterred]

22. I met a researcher who took home a spider monkey

he had worked with in a lab and he had it outside on a leash. All of a sudden I realized this was a wild animal, totally unpredictable- and this guy thought it was ok because he had a PhD, the rules be damned. I'm sure a lot more people do this than anyone realizes.

[Mimosa]

23. My stepfather got a spider monkey as a pet during the late 60s.

It became a monster. My stepfather had that grown up little boy syndrome. None of the rest of us wanted his 'pets' including a Shetland pony.

In short, a spider monkey IS a dangerous little horror show. But everybody but step dad tried to keep out of it's way.

[undeterred]

24. Even more frightening, this person was raising a child in the home

at the same time, same age as the monkey. I'm sure the comparisons were terribly interesting but I don't even want to think about the danger to the child.

[Ian David]

26. Ohio Gov. John Kasich Denies the Obvious: He Could Have Prevented The Exotic Animal Tragedy

Ohio Gov. John Kasich Denies the Obvious: He Could Have Prevented The Exotic Animal Tragedy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2160754&mesg_id=2160754