The only winning move is not to play

[whatchamacallit]

American politics is a fraud. Institutions promoting false dichotomies are frauds too.

Adieu

[tblue]

1. Going so soon?

I am really intrigued and wanna know what you're saying. Really. No snark. I'm sincere.

[Hutzpa]

2. Cynicism is the sorriest kind of wisdom

the only advantage it gives is being privy to information.

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[Hutzpa]

4. Just as you might hope that a republican can do better.

nt

[Fumesucker]

6. Personally I hope that a Democrat can do better..

A forlorn and futile hope though..

[Hutzpa]

8. Really,

then why piss on every efforts that this president has made considering the obstacles
he has has to confront.

[Fumesucker]

9. If it were not a forlorn and futile hope then Occupying Wall Street would be unnecessary..

And yet, there they are, getting maced.

[Hutzpa]

10. No it is not unnecessary

it IS necessary, we are the ones we've been waiting for, remember that?
did you think Obama can do this by himself? No, but a show of force such as
OWS is exactly what the government needs to understand that things are getting
worse for the average America and people that work overtime in distorting
all the efforts this president has made just to prove a point helps no one, not
even themselves.

We can help change the system by electing representatives that can represent
their constituents instead of special interest.

[Fumesucker]

11. No, what I wrote was that if Obama and the Democrats were doing their ostensible jobs..

You know, representing the average American, then OWS would be unnecessary.

On some social issues Democrats are better than Republicans, when it comes to economics and the distribution of wealth there's really not much to choose.

Keep in mind that Obama signed a tax cut bill that actually raised taxes on those making under $20K/year.

[Hutzpa]

12. Yes I know what you wrote and understood your sentiments

what I did was to take you into a scenario that can give you a bit of
an understanding as to the reason why things work the way they do in
government sometimes and what we can do as citizens to gain our
governments attention.

If we want to be fair, we can say that yes Obama took the presidency with
majority in Congress and Senate but did we foresee blue dogs were going
to create an obstacle on each and every bills that was sent to Congress?
No we did not, but yet he was able to get some bills through even with
obstructions from republicans and blue dogs. You can also argue that why
was Bush II able to pass majority of his bill with no obstruction?

On the distribution of wealth I would not give republicans credit, did you
see the show the other day with Melisa Harris Perry on Al Sharpton show? she
gave a statistics on democrats and republicans leadership since FDR, you need
to find the video to that show, but my point is this, republicans are known
for less wealth sharing, the only reason why businesses vote for republicans
constantly is that the wealth sharing is sustained amongs the top 1%, the top
1%, knowing that, why would anyone see themselves as a republican is baffling
except ofcourse if you are the top 1%.

[Fumesucker]

13. This is not your father's Democratic party..

To paraphrase an old Olds ad..

Your father's Democratic party wouldn't have countenanced a "tax cut" bill that raised taxes on the poorest working Americans.

I fall into that demographic, perhaps it's why I noticed that my taxes were raised by the tax bill that gave whopping cuts to millionaires.

I'm funny that way.

[chollybocker]

5. One post too many?

You in or out? That couch ain't gonna sit on itself, ya know.

[Fire Walk With Me]

7. K&R!